Mexican Citizenship Law Contradicts Anchor Baby Amnesty .

[LilOlLady]

Mexican Citizenship Law Contradicts Anchor Baby Amnesty .


Wednesday, 05 January 2011 07:04 Frosty Wooldridge

That is where this story should begin and that is where it should end! The Mexican Constitution, Chapter II, Article 30, paragraph II, states that you are a Mexican by birth if born on foreign territory, sons or daughters of Mexican parents born in national territory. There you have it! Anchor Babies are not U.S. citizens! They are citizens of Mexican according to the Mexican Constitution.

“April 4, 1997, President Sedillo of Mexico stated that “We will not tolerate foreign forces dictating and enacting laws on Mexicans. Our contention is that we are not enacting or dictating any laws on the Mexican illegal alien children born by illegal alien females in the US territory. Further, he states that “he was going to use all diplomatic and legal forces at his disposal to….protect Mexicans living in the United States.”
Mexican Citizenship Law Contradicts Anchor Baby Amnesty | US Opinion and Editorial Right Side News

 

[jerryh60]

They might all come home if he offered them money and security

 

[editec]

So it is YOUR LEGAL OPINON that Mexicans laws trump American laws IN AMERICA?

I ask because that appears to be you conclusion in this thread.

Somehow I suspect even you don't really believe that.

 

[Angelhair]

Mexico has its constitution; we have ours. Just because it's written in the Mexican constitution, it does not make it so in ours - but - I am for doing away with anchor babies. If they are born of illegal parents, then they should NOT be deemed U.S. citizens. Period!

 

[Unkotare]

Mexican Citizenship Law Contradicts Anchor Baby Amnesty .


Wednesday, 05 January 2011 07:04 Frosty Wooldridge

That is where this story should begin and that is where it should end! The Mexican Constitution, Chapter II, Article 30, paragraph II, states that you are a Mexican by birth if born on foreign territory, sons or daughters of Mexican parents born in national territory. There you have it! Anchor Babies are not U.S. citizens! They are citizens of Mexican according to the Mexican Constitution.

Don't get too excited. What Mexico has to say about it changes nothing about the US Constitution. Nor would you want it to if you weren't all wrapped up in your emotions like this.

 

[Clementine]

So it is YOUR LEGAL OPINON that Mexicans laws trump American laws IN AMERICA?

I ask because that appears to be you conclusion in this thread.

Somehow I suspect even you don't really believe that.

I think the point is that Calderon didn't want the families of illegal aliens returning to Mexico, claiming they aren't Mexican citizens and therefore not allowed to cross the border and live there. Seems he has no excuse not to welcome his people back. And Calderon relies on the remittances sent back to Mexico by the illegals living here in the U.S.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

There you have it! Anchor Babies are not U.S. citizens! They are citizens of Mexican according to the Mexican Constitution.

Wrong as usual – see below.

Mexico has its constitution; we have ours. Just because it's written in the Mexican constitution, it does not make it so in ours - but - I am for doing away with anchor babies. If they are born of illegal parents, then they should NOT be deemed U.S. citizens. Period!

Ignorant nonsense.

The 14th Amendment clearly confers citizenship upon any person born in the United States, regardless his parents’ citizenship or status:

A child born on American soil automatically gets U.S. citizenship, unless the child is born to a foreign government official who is in the United States as a recognized diplomat. Children born in certain U.S. territories -- Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, and Guam -- may also acquire U.S. citizenship. For details, see Title 8 of the U.S. Code, available at United States Code: Title 8,TITLE 8—ALIENS AND NATIONALITY | LII / Legal Information Institute.

U.S. Citizenship by Birth or Through Parents | Nolo.com

Further, there is no such thing as ‘anchor baby amnesty,’ as first there’s no such thing as an ‘anchor baby,’ as those born in the US are citizens, and second illegal parents of citizens are subject to deportation as anyone else.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Mexican Citizenship Law Contradicts Anchor Baby Amnesty .


Wednesday, 05 January 2011 07:04 Frosty Wooldridge

That is where this story should begin and that is where it should end! The Mexican Constitution, Chapter II, Article 30, paragraph II, states that you are a Mexican by birth if born on foreign territory, sons or daughters of Mexican parents born in national territory. There you have it! Anchor Babies are not U.S. citizens! They are citizens of Mexican according to the Mexican Constitution.

They are citizens of the United States according to the U.S. Constitution. You won't find that arguments based on the Mexican Constitution persuade the Supreme Court.

 

[Sunshine]

Mexico has its constitution; we have ours. Just because it's written in the Mexican constitution, it does not make it so in ours - but - I am for doing away with anchor babies. If they are born of illegal parents, then they should NOT be deemed U.S. citizens. Period!

International law doesn't work that way. Neither does our domestic law. If you are in America, you are under the American Constitution! There are a lot of Americans who have dual citizenship.

 

[LilOlLady]

So it is YOUR LEGAL OPINON that Mexicans laws trump American laws IN AMERICA?

I ask because that appears to be you conclusion in this thread.

Somehow I suspect even you don't really believe that.

I did not say that but since their parents are Mexican citizens maybe Mexico laws will trump American laws anywhere. Anchor babies born to Mexican citizens are also under Mexican law legally.

 

[LilOlLady]

Mexico Claims Anchor Babies by Law
By admin, on January 7th, 2011


While the United States engages in a faux struggle to comprehend the true intent of the 14th amendment, the Mexican Constitution is quite clear: Anchor babies belong to them no matter where they are born.

The argument of the open borders advocates is that anyone born on American soil instantly becomes an American citizen whether that birth occurred during a commission of a crime or not. In their world, a pregnant woman can cross into the United States illegally, give birth, and confer American citizenship on that child. If only that’s what the 14th amendment said. That’s not what it says at all

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Take a good look at article II there. Those born in a foreign country, would only need one of the parents to be Mexican citizens to make that child a Mexican citizen, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

Mexico Claims Anchor Babies by Law « rjjrdq's America II

 

[High_Gravity]

Mexican Citizenship Law Contradicts Anchor Baby Amnesty .


Wednesday, 05 January 2011 07:04 Frosty Wooldridge

That is where this story should begin and that is where it should end! The Mexican Constitution, Chapter II, Article 30, paragraph II, states that you are a Mexican by birth if born on foreign territory, sons or daughters of Mexican parents born in national territory. There you have it! Anchor Babies are not U.S. citizens! They are citizens of Mexican according to the Mexican Constitution.

“April 4, 1997, President Sedillo of Mexico stated that “We will not tolerate foreign forces dictating and enacting laws on Mexicans. Our contention is that we are not enacting or dictating any laws on the Mexican illegal alien children born by illegal alien females in the US territory. Further, he states that “he was going to use all diplomatic and legal forces at his disposal to….protect Mexicans living in the United States.”
Mexican Citizenship Law Contradicts Anchor Baby Amnesty | US Opinion and Editorial Right Side News

Who gives a fuck about the Mexican consitution? are you saying it over rides the one we follow here?

 

[High_Gravity]

Mexico Claims Anchor Babies by Law
By admin, on January 7th, 2011


While the United States engages in a faux struggle to comprehend the true intent of the 14th amendment, the Mexican Constitution is quite clear: Anchor babies belong to them no matter where they are born.

The argument of the open borders advocates is that anyone born on American soil instantly becomes an American citizen whether that birth occurred during a commission of a crime or not. In their world, a pregnant woman can cross into the United States illegally, give birth, and confer American citizenship on that child. If only that’s what the 14th amendment said. That’s not what it says at all

...............................
Take a good look at article II there. Those born in a foreign country, would only need one of the parents to be Mexican citizens to make that child a Mexican citizen, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

Mexico Claims Anchor Babies by Law « rjjrdq's America II

They can claim whatever they like but those children are American citizens whether you like it or not.

 

[LilOlLady]

Mexican Citizenship Law Contradicts Anchor Baby Amnesty .


Wednesday, 05 January 2011 07:04 Frosty Wooldridge

That is where this story should begin and that is where it should end! The Mexican Constitution, Chapter II, Article 30, paragraph II, states that you are a Mexican by birth if born on foreign territory, sons or daughters of Mexican parents born in national territory. There you have it! Anchor Babies are not U.S. citizens! They are citizens of Mexican according to the Mexican Constitution.

“April 4, 1997, President Sedillo of Mexico stated that “We will not tolerate foreign forces dictating and enacting laws on Mexicans. Our contention is that we are not enacting or dictating any laws on the Mexican illegal alien children born by illegal alien females in the US territory. Further, he states that “he was going to use all diplomatic and legal forces at his disposal to….protect Mexicans living in the United States.”
Mexican Citizenship Law Contradicts Anchor Baby Amnesty | US Opinion and Editorial Right Side News

Who gives a fuck about the Mexican consitution? are you saying it over rides the one we follow here?

Do American constitution over rule Mexican constitution over Mexican citizens?

 

[High_Gravity]

Mexican Citizenship Law Contradicts Anchor Baby Amnesty .


Wednesday, 05 January 2011 07:04 Frosty Wooldridge

That is where this story should begin and that is where it should end! The Mexican Constitution, Chapter II, Article 30, paragraph II, states that you are a Mexican by birth if born on foreign territory, sons or daughters of Mexican parents born in national territory. There you have it! Anchor Babies are not U.S. citizens! They are citizens of Mexican according to the Mexican Constitution.

“April 4, 1997, President Sedillo of Mexico stated that “We will not tolerate foreign forces dictating and enacting laws on Mexicans. Our contention is that we are not enacting or dictating any laws on the Mexican illegal alien children born by illegal alien females in the US territory. Further, he states that “he was going to use all diplomatic and legal forces at his disposal to….protect Mexicans living in the United States.”
Mexican Citizenship Law Contradicts Anchor Baby Amnesty | US Opinion and Editorial Right Side News

Who gives a fuck about the Mexican consitution? are you saying it over rides the one we follow here?

Do American constitution over rule Mexican constitution over Mexican citizens?

If those Mexican citizens live in the US than YES, it does.

 

[007]

Further, there is no such thing as ‘anchor baby amnesty,’ as first there’s no such thing as an ‘anchor baby,’ as those born in the US are citizens, and second illegal parents of citizens are subject to deportation as anyone else.

And that's what needs to be changed. That law was written hundreds of years ago when the fathers had zero idea of what was to come.

 

[LilOlLady]

Mexico Claims Anchor Babies by Law
By admin, on January 7th, 2011


While the United States engages in a faux struggle to comprehend the true intent of the 14th amendment, the Mexican Constitution is quite clear: Anchor babies belong to them no matter where they are born.

The argument of the open borders advocates is that anyone born on American soil instantly becomes an American citizen whether that birth occurred during a commission of a crime or not. In their world, a pregnant woman can cross into the United States illegally, give birth, and confer American citizenship on that child. If only that’s what the 14th amendment said. That’s not what it says at all

...............................
Take a good look at article II there. Those born in a foreign country, would only need one of the parents to be Mexican citizens to make that child a Mexican citizen, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

Mexico Claims Anchor Babies by Law « rjjrdq's America II

They can claim whatever they like but those children are American citizens whether you like it or not.

Anchor babies are also Mexican citizens also. Mexico have authroity over their citizens no matter where they are.
They are only American citizens by miss-interpretation of the 14th Amendment. IF ever the Supreme court rule on the issue it will be clarified. The Supreme Court has ruled only that the Constitution requires babies of legal immigrants be U.S. citizens.

 

[High_Gravity]

Mexico Claims Anchor Babies by Law
By admin, on January 7th, 2011


While the United States engages in a faux struggle to comprehend the true intent of the 14th amendment, the Mexican Constitution is quite clear: Anchor babies belong to them no matter where they are born.

The argument of the open borders advocates is that anyone born on American soil instantly becomes an American citizen whether that birth occurred during a commission of a crime or not. In their world, a pregnant woman can cross into the United States illegally, give birth, and confer American citizenship on that child. If only that’s what the 14th amendment said. That’s not what it says at all

...............................
Take a good look at article II there. Those born in a foreign country, would only need one of the parents to be Mexican citizens to make that child a Mexican citizen, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

Mexico Claims Anchor Babies by Law « rjjrdq's America II

They can claim whatever they like but those children are American citizens whether you like it or not.

Anchor babies are also Mexican citizens also. Mexico have authroity over their citizens no matter where they are.
They are only American citizens by miss-interpretation of the 14th Amendment. IF ever the Supreme court rule on the issue it will be clarified. The Supreme Court has ruled only that the Constitution requires babies of legal immigrants be U.S. citizens.

How can Mexico have authority over citizens who no longer live there? if you are on American soil you are expected to follow those laws, why is this so hard to figure out?

 

[LilOlLady]

Who gives a fuck about the Mexican consitution? are you saying it over rides the one we follow here?

Do American constitution over rule Mexican constitution over Mexican citizens?

If those Mexican citizens live in the US than YES, it does.

NO, the reason is Mexican Consulate's Department of Protection to protect Mexican citizens.
And Mexican Embassy provide protection to Mexicans in the US.

 

[High_Gravity]

The Supreme Court has ruled only that the Constitution requires babies of legal immigrants be U.S. citizens.

When did this happen? I agree with that, but I didn't hear about it, illegals are still having children and they are considered Americans.