daveman
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Remember, dear, you're dealing with someone who thinks "Tax the rich!!" is a valid solution to any economic problem.
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Merrill's attempt to hijack a thread from the Political forum
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IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance is free to no one because our taxes will pay for it therefore everyone who signs up will pay.
No such thing as free medical insurance not in the USA.
Are you back again?
Wrong..... if you do not PAY any federal income tax at the end of the year....it is free for all thoes who suck off the government teat...not for the poor bastards who are saddled with footing the bill for the free loaders.
That is .... unless you are saying improved obomacare will be only for thus 49% or so of us how PAY federal income tax at the end of the year?
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- #64
No it is never free.
The government takes in trillions of tax dollars annually from a variety of sources therefore tax dollars will be there no matter what. Everyone contributes to the tax dollar pie somehow. Think about it.
There are few better uses for our tax dollars than 24/7 Single Payer Insurance.
The government takes in trillions of tax dollars annually from a variety of sources therefore tax dollars will be there no matter what. Everyone contributes to the tax dollar pie somehow. Think about it.
There are few better uses for our tax dollars than 24/7 Single Payer Insurance.
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- #65
No it is never free.
The government takes in trillions of tax dollars annually from a variety of sources therefore tax dollars will be there no matter what. Everyone contributes to the tax dollar pie somehow. Think about it.
There are few better uses for our tax dollars than 24/7 Single Payer Insurance.
No its never free...someone is always paying.... and for the most part the ones paying are not the ones using the system.
Grow up.
No it is never free.
The government takes in trillions of tax dollars annually from a variety of sources therefore tax dollars will be there no matter what. Everyone contributes to the tax dollar pie somehow. Think about it.
There are few better uses for our tax dollars than 24/7 Single Payer Insurance.
Eliminate all other wasteful spending first, then let's discuss giving the government even more control over medical care in the US.
California Girl
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IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance is free to no one because our taxes will pay for it therefore everyone who signs up will pay.
No such thing as free medical insurance not in the USA.
It.
Won't.
Work.
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- #68
The government will not be providing health care ever.
We're talking medical insurance.
Insurance industry was lobbying against medical insurance reform is at a record breaking $1.4 million health care insurance dollars a day.
These same $1.4 million health care dollars a day could supply 519 families of four full coverage medicare insurance each day this reckless spending takes place.
Is this fiscally responsible spending of health care dollars?
Also remember the healthcare lobby furnishes 6 high dollar lobbyists per elected official.
Is this fiscally responsible spending of health care dollars?
Medicare single payer eliminates the above reckless spending.
We're talking medical insurance.
Insurance industry was lobbying against medical insurance reform is at a record breaking $1.4 million health care insurance dollars a day.
These same $1.4 million health care dollars a day could supply 519 families of four full coverage medicare insurance each day this reckless spending takes place.
Is this fiscally responsible spending of health care dollars?
Also remember the healthcare lobby furnishes 6 high dollar lobbyists per elected official.
Is this fiscally responsible spending of health care dollars?
Medicare single payer eliminates the above reckless spending.
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- #69
IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance is free to no one because our taxes will pay for it therefore everyone who signs up will pay.
No such thing as free medical insurance not in the USA.
It.
Won't.
Work.
Who said? Where's your supporting information?
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IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance is free to no one because our taxes will pay for it therefore everyone who signs up will pay.
No such thing as free medical insurance not in the USA.
It.
Won't.
Work.
Who said? Where's your supporting information?
Is insurance working now? No, its not.... The reason it is not and out of control is becasue the ones who are do pay...are covering costs of those who don't pay.
sound familiar?
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- #71
Improved Medicare Single Payer Insurance for All is one substantial part of the solution.
- Easy to Implement: Medicare has been in existence since 1966, it provides
healthcare to those 65 and older, and satisfaction levels are high. The
structure is already in place and can be easily expanded to cover everyone.
- Simple: One entity established by the government would handle billing
and payment at a cost significantly lower than private insurance companies.
Private insurance companies spend about 31% of every healthcare dollar on
administration. Medicare now spends about 3%.
- Real Choice: An expanded and improved Medicare for All would provide
personal choice of doctors and other healthcare providers. While financing
would be public, providers would remain private. As with Medicare, you choose
your doctor, your hospital, and other healthcare providers.
- State and Local Tax Relief: Medicare for All would assume the costs of
healthcare delivery, thus relieving the states and local governments of the
cost of healthcare, including Medicaid, and as a result reduce State and
local tax burdens.
- Expanded coverage: Would cover all medically necessary healthcare
services no more rationing by private insurance companies. There would be
no limits on coverage, no co-pays or deductibles, and services would include
not only primary and specialized care but also prescription drugs, dental,
vision, mental health services, and long-term care.
- Everyone In, Nobody Out: Everyone would be eligible and covered. No
longer would doctors ask what insurance you have before they treat you.
- No More Overpriced Private Health Insurance: Medicare for All would
eliminate the need for private health insurance companies who put profit
before healthcare, unfairly limit choice, restrict who gets coverage, and
force people into bankruptcy.
- Lower Costs: Most people will pay significantly less for healthcare.
Savings will be achieved in reduced administrative costs and in negotiated
prices for prescription drugs.
Healthcare-NOW! - Organizing for a national, single-payer healthcare system.
- Easy to Implement: Medicare has been in existence since 1966, it provides
healthcare to those 65 and older, and satisfaction levels are high. The
structure is already in place and can be easily expanded to cover everyone.
- Simple: One entity established by the government would handle billing
and payment at a cost significantly lower than private insurance companies.
Private insurance companies spend about 31% of every healthcare dollar on
administration. Medicare now spends about 3%.
- Real Choice: An expanded and improved Medicare for All would provide
personal choice of doctors and other healthcare providers. While financing
would be public, providers would remain private. As with Medicare, you choose
your doctor, your hospital, and other healthcare providers.
- State and Local Tax Relief: Medicare for All would assume the costs of
healthcare delivery, thus relieving the states and local governments of the
cost of healthcare, including Medicaid, and as a result reduce State and
local tax burdens.
- Expanded coverage: Would cover all medically necessary healthcare
services no more rationing by private insurance companies. There would be
no limits on coverage, no co-pays or deductibles, and services would include
not only primary and specialized care but also prescription drugs, dental,
vision, mental health services, and long-term care.
- Everyone In, Nobody Out: Everyone would be eligible and covered. No
longer would doctors ask what insurance you have before they treat you.
- No More Overpriced Private Health Insurance: Medicare for All would
eliminate the need for private health insurance companies who put profit
before healthcare, unfairly limit choice, restrict who gets coverage, and
force people into bankruptcy.
- Lower Costs: Most people will pay significantly less for healthcare.
Savings will be achieved in reduced administrative costs and in negotiated
prices for prescription drugs.
Healthcare-NOW! - Organizing for a national, single-payer healthcare system.
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- #73
idiot.
There is no argument against IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance. It is the only absolute reform.
Certainly would reduce the cost of city,federal and state governments substantially.
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idiot.
There is no argument against IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance. It is the only absolute reform.
Certainly would reduce the cost of city,federal and state governments substantially.
The only absolute reform is to pay for your health care.
daveman
Diamond Member
To leftists, the only wasteful spending is in DoD.No it is never free.
The government takes in trillions of tax dollars annually from a variety of sources therefore tax dollars will be there no matter what. Everyone contributes to the tax dollar pie somehow. Think about it.
There are few better uses for our tax dollars than 24/7 Single Payer Insurance.
Eliminate all other wasteful spending first, then let's discuss giving the government even more control over medical care in the US.
daveman
Diamond Member
idiot.
There is no argument against IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance. It is the only absolute reform.
Certainly would reduce the cost of city,federal and state governments substantially.
Leftist disconnect from reality: "It'll cover millions more people and cost less!"
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