Memorial Day Truth

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    "Facing the truth is hard to do, especially the truth about ourselves.

    "So Americans have been sorely pressed to come to terms with the fact that after 9/11 our government began to torture people, and did so in defiance of domestic and international law.

    "Most of us haven’t come to terms with what that meant, or means today, but we must reckon with torture, the torture done in our name, allegedly for our safety.

    "It’s no secret such cruelty occurred; it’s just the truth we’d rather not think about.

    "But Memorial Day is a good time to make the effort.

    On Memorial Day Weekend, America Reckons with Torture | Common Dreams

    Recently the current president of Brazil who was imprisoned and tortured repeatedly by the military dictators who ruled her country for 25 years has commented on Brazil's commission investigating the dictatorship: "'We are not moved by revenge, hate or a desire to rewrite history. The need to know the full truth is what moves us.'"

    "In other words, 'You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.'"
     
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    Water boarding is cool!
     
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    And it isn't torture.
     
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    Maybe Dick Cheney should try it?
     
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    This is a different kind of war....it takes different measures.

    And if you think there wasn't torture by Americans in other wars...then you're just naive.
     
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    Well to paraphrase...

    When you sacrifice principles in exchange for security, you'll end up with neither.
     
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    Yeah, and you're naive to think that there wasn't rape of women by Americans in other wars. I'm not sure what your point is.
     
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    Whatever it takes to keep us as safe as possible.
    If extreme measures are needed so be it.
    You Libs wanna feel sorry for the terrorists
    take a moment and go on the internet and do a search on Daniel Pearl.
     
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    Have you tried it?

    Do you believe it's "cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment.?"
     
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    I have another cute saying for you.

    All's fair in love and war.
     

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