Memorandum submitted by the Institute of Physics (CRU 39)

[IanC]

Here is a letter submitted to the British Parliament in regards to the Investigations that were being formed to examine the principle scientists exposed by the climategate emails.

Uncorrected Evidence 39

1. The Institute is concerned that, unless the disclosed e-mails are proved to be forgeries or adaptations, worrying implications arise for the integrity of scientific research in this field and for the credibility of the scientific method as practised in this context.

2. The CRU e-mails as published on the internet provide prima facie evidence of determined and co-ordinated refusals to comply with honourable scientific traditions and freedom of information law. The principle that scientists should be willing to expose their ideas and results to independent testing and replication by others, which requires the open exchange of data, procedures and materials, is vital. The lack of compliance has been confirmed by the findings of the Information Commissioner. This extends well beyond the CRU itself - most of the e-mails were exchanged with researchers in a number of other international institutions who are also involved in the formulation of the IPCC's conclusions on climate change.
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5. The e-mails reveal doubts as to the reliability of some of the reconstructions and raise questions as to the way in which they have been represented; for example, the apparent suppression, in graphics widely used by the IPCC, of proxy results for recent decades that do not agree with contemporary instrumental temperature measurements.
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12. The second of the review's terms of reference should extend beyond reviewing the CRU's policies and practices to whether these have been breached by individuals, particularly in respect of other kinds of departure from objective scientific practice, for example, manipulation of the publication and peer review system or allowing pre-formed conclusions to override scientific objectivity.
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It is unfortunate that the investigations were carried out by individuals who were heavily influenced by the people and institutions that were being investigated. The inevitable whitewashes that transpired added yet another black eye to climate science. One can only hope that the recent grilling by the parliament of Muir Russell and Oxbridge (the investigators) over their incompetence will lead to a real inquiry into the malfeasance disclosed by the release of the climategate emails. One that will look into the issues brought up by this letter from the IoP, and many other concerned groups and scientists around the world.

 

[daveman]

The Troo Beleevers will point to the whitewash "investigations" as proof of the CRU's innocence and refuse to listen to anything else.

 

[IanC]

The Troo Beleevers will point to the whitewash "investigations" as proof of the CRU's innocence and refuse to listen to anything else.

Yes, Old Rocks has proclaimed them 'pure as the driven snow' many times. And he doesnt even find it odd that the investigations didnt ask Jones et al whether they did or didnt delete the emails about IPCC coirespondence that was a central part of the scandal for FOI.

 

[skookerasbil]

The Troo Beleevers will point to the whitewash "investigations" as proof of the CRU's innocence and refuse to listen to anything else.

Yes, Old Rocks has proclaimed them 'pure as the driven snow' many times. And he doesnt even find it odd that the investigations didnt ask Jones et al whether they did or didnt delete the emails about IPCC coirespondence that was a central part of the scandal for FOI.

Who cares about Old Rocks or any other of the k00ks opinions are on the investigation. The political climate dictates that its basically irrelevant......the new congress is trashing the Climate Committee......its last meeting was yesterday. Nobody in congress wants anything to do with global warming garbage in the forseeable future........probably until about 2020 at the earliest. ( since the HOUSE will be controlled by the GOP up until then ).


Lets call a spade a spade..............the skeptics are victorious.

This forum is essentially dead as of this past election day. It is only a place for the k00ks to pretend their shit matters..........

 

[IanC]

[ QUOTE=skookerasbil;3041291]

The Troo Beleevers will point to the whitewash "investigations" as proof of the CRU's innocence and refuse to listen to anything else.

Yes, Old Rocks has proclaimed them 'pure as the driven snow' many times. And he doesnt even find it odd that the investigations didnt ask Jones et al whether they did or didnt delete the emails about IPCC coirespondence that was a central part of the scandal for FOI.

Who cares about Old Rocks or any other of the k00ks opinions are on the investigation. The political climate dictates that its basically irrelevant......the new congress is trashing the Climate Committee......its last meeting was yesterday. Nobody in congress wants anything to do with global warming garbage in the forseeable future........probably until about 2020 at the earliest. ( since the HOUSE will be controlled by the GOP up until then ).


Lets call a spade a spade..............the skeptics are victorious.

This forum is essentially dead as of this past election day. It is only a place for the k00ks to pretend their shit matters..........[/QUOTE]




I would rather find out what is really happening in global climate and rehabilitate science's reputation. You seem more interested in gloating over a perceived victory. That attitude is what screwed things up in the first place.

 

[daveman]

The Troo Beleevers will point to the whitewash "investigations" as proof of the CRU's innocence and refuse to listen to anything else.

Yes, Old Rocks has proclaimed them 'pure as the driven snow' many times. And he doesnt even find it odd that the investigations didnt ask Jones et al whether they did or didnt delete the emails about IPCC coirespondence that was a central part of the scandal for FOI.

It was Holy Writ handed down from on high. He dare not question it, lest he burst into flames.

 

[Meister]

[ QUOTE=skookerasbil;3041291]

The Troo Beleevers will point to the whitewash "investigations" as proof of the CRU's innocence and refuse to listen to anything else.

Yes, Old Rocks has proclaimed them 'pure as the driven snow' many times. And he doesnt even find it odd that the investigations didnt ask Jones et al whether they did or didnt delete the emails about IPCC coirespondence that was a central part of the scandal for FOI.

Who cares about Old Rocks or any other of the k00ks opinions are on the investigation. The political climate dictates that its basically irrelevant......the new congress is trashing the Climate Committee......its last meeting was yesterday. Nobody in congress wants anything to do with global warming garbage in the forseeable future........probably until about 2020 at the earliest. ( since the HOUSE will be controlled by the GOP up until then ).


Lets call a spade a spade..............the skeptics are victorious.

This forum is essentially dead as of this past election day. It is only a place for the k00ks to pretend their shit matters..........

I would rather find out what is really happening in global climate and rehabilitate science's reputation. You seem more interested in gloating over a perceived victory. That attitude is what screwed things up in the first place.[/QUOTE]

IPCC cherry picked only about 10% of the papers sent to them. They certainly had an agenda from the get-go.