Meeting The "Conditional Threat" Standard: If It's Attempted Murder, Is It Impeachable Offense(?)

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"Your Money Or Life," "Your Announcement or Your national defense," are actually recognized in US Law to be illegal. The caveat is that, "Your announcement or your National Defense," is never put on the actual tapes--until recently. The President's foul language is usually a Tweet, for example. Do Republicans even think that attempted murder rises to the level of an impeachable offense?

Conditional Assault Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.

So is it attempted murder, a veiled threat even? There is the widely public case, now, of the girlfriend promoting the suicide. "Stop seeing so and so, or I'll kill him!" is probably laughed off like the same President at NATO. Cutting off the lawful military assistance, then suggesting--weak language--a possible favor--even weaker language--has the problem of the evidence. The suicide victim is dead, the threats public evidence. The aid was "On Hold," easily public record in both Ukraine, Congress, and whatever the White House considers to be national origins of Mafia Don(?)!

So where Republicans are shouting and screaming veiled threats at witnesses--Committee members and the President himself--then what is anyone seeing? The famous "Mary Poppins" witness at the Schiff hearings felt threatened. There is testimony. It mirrors what happened leading up to the ambassadorial termination.

The broadly stated answer is, "Articles of Impeachment!" The specific evidence now fills reams, books--and whatever anyone put in the Reagan Library, even--the planes(?).

Treason would be difficult to show, but easy to infer, even.
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"With assault defined in terms of attempted battery, one may point a loaded gun at another, or flourish a knife in his face, with a threat, which he intends to carry out, to injure the other unless the latter does something he is not legally obliged to do or refrains from doing something he is legally entitled to do -- as where A, with loaded gun pointed, tells B, 'I'll shoot you if you say that again' or 'I'll fire if you don't raise your hands.' It is no defense to assault of the attempted-battery sort that the victim can and does avoid injury by acceding to the other's unlawful condition; or, putting it another way, the required intent to injure is not negatived by such a condition which accompanies the defendant's act and threat." [People v. Johnson, 407 Mich. 196, 245 (Mich. 1979)].
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"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(So Great Pharaoh sent the Prince--Big Nosed, Moustache, and Glasses(?)--into the desert, disguised as an "Exile"--or having changed his name(?). Acts 7 reports that the Prince was skilled in the Great Pharaoh's subjugating arts. (The clarity is shown in Old Testament.) Agents would be created, and given even an edict, a non-negotiable demand: Deut. 23: 19-20. The Subjugation of People's--and in a lot of history--became the outcome, (Matt 25:14-30). Homeless denizens, even now: Are clearly public evidence.)
 
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"Your Money Or Life," "Your Announcement or Your national defense," are actually recognized in US Law to be illegal. The caveat is that, "Your announcement or your National Defense," is never put on the actual tapes--until recently. The President's foul language is usually a Tweet, for example. Do Republicans even think that attempted murder rises to the level of an impeachable offense.

Conditional Assault Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.

So is it attempted murder, a veiled threat even? There is the widely public case, now, of the girlfriend promoting the suicide. "Stop seeing so and so, or I'll kill him!" is probably laughed off like the same President at NATO. Cutting off the lawful military assistance, then suggesting--weak language--a possible favor--even weaker language--has the problem of the evidence. The suicide victim is dead, the threats public evidence. The aid was "On Hold," easily public record in both Ukraine, Congress, and whatever the White House considers to be national origins of Mafia Don(?)!

So where Republicans are shouting and screaming veiled threats at witnesses--Committee members and the President himself--then what is anyone seeing? The famous "Mary Poppins" witness at the Schiff hearings felt threatened. There is testimony. It mirrors what happened leading up to the ambassadorial termination.

The broadly stated answer is, "Articles of Impeachment!" The specific evidence now fills reams, books--and whatever anyone put in the Reagan Library, even--the planes(?).

Treason would be difficult to show, but easy to infer, even.
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"With assault defined in terms of attempted battery, one may point a loaded gun at another, or flourish a knife in his face, with a threat, which he intends to carry out, to injure the other unless the latter does something he is not legally obliged to do or refrains from doing something he is legally entitled to do -- as where A, with loaded gun pointed, tells B, 'I'll shoot you if you say that again' or 'I'll fire if you don't raise your hands.' It is no defense to assault of the attempted-battery sort that the victim can and does avoid injury by acceding to the other's unlawful condition; or, putting it another way, the required intent to injure is not negatived by such a condition which accompanies the defendant's act and threat." [People v. Johnson, 407 Mich. 196, 245 (Mich. 1979)].
______________________

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(So Great Pharaoh sent the Prince--Big Nosed, Moustache, and Glasses(?)--into the desert, disguised as an "Exile)--or having changed his name(?). Acts 7 reports that the Prince was skilled in the Great Pharaoh's subjugating arts. (The clarity is shown in Old Testament.) Agents would be created, and given even an edict, a non-negotiable demand: Deut. 23: 19-20. The Subjugation of People's--and in a lot of history--became the outcome, (Matt 25:14-30). Homeless denizens, even now: Are clearly public evidence.)

Whaaat?
 
Another TDS manifesto OP. Here I'll summarize it...Trump :aargh::102::aargh:

No shit. We went from "Orange Man Bad" to "Trump is a murderer" in just a few months.

Guess he shouldn't have shot that guy down on 5th Avenue. :laughing0301:
 
“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role,” the politician said. “Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”

Lindsey Graham
 
“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role,” the politician said. “Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”

Lindsey Graham

Lindsey Scarlett had a come-to-cheeto-jesus moment since then.
 
“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role,” the politician said. “Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”

Lindsey Graham

Lindsey Scarlett had a come-to-cheeto-jesus moment since then.

Yep. The party affiliation of the person sitting in the White House changed...thus he changed his view
 
"Your Money Or Life," "Your Announcement or Your national defense," are actually recognized in US Law to be illegal. The caveat is that, "Your announcement or your National Defense," is never put on the actual tapes--until recently. The President's foul language is usually a Tweet, for example. Do Republicans even think that attempted murder rises to the level of an impeachable offense?

Conditional Assault Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.

So is it attempted murder, a veiled threat even? There is the widely public case, now, of the girlfriend promoting the suicide. "Stop seeing so and so, or I'll kill him!" is probably laughed off like the same President at NATO. Cutting off the lawful military assistance, then suggesting--weak language--a possible favor--even weaker language--has the problem of the evidence. The suicide victim is dead, the threats public evidence. The aid was "On Hold," easily public record in both Ukraine, Congress, and whatever the White House considers to be national origins of Mafia Don(?)!

So where Republicans are shouting and screaming veiled threats at witnesses--Committee members and the President himself--then what is anyone seeing? The famous "Mary Poppins" witness at the Schiff hearings felt threatened. There is testimony. It mirrors what happened leading up to the ambassadorial termination.

The broadly stated answer is, "Articles of Impeachment!" The specific evidence now fills reams, books--and whatever anyone put in the Reagan Library, even--the planes(?).

Treason would be difficult to show, but easy to infer, even.
____________________________
"With assault defined in terms of attempted battery, one may point a loaded gun at another, or flourish a knife in his face, with a threat, which he intends to carry out, to injure the other unless the latter does something he is not legally obliged to do or refrains from doing something he is legally entitled to do -- as where A, with loaded gun pointed, tells B, 'I'll shoot you if you say that again' or 'I'll fire if you don't raise your hands.' It is no defense to assault of the attempted-battery sort that the victim can and does avoid injury by acceding to the other's unlawful condition; or, putting it another way, the required intent to injure is not negatived by such a condition which accompanies the defendant's act and threat." [People v. Johnson, 407 Mich. 196, 245 (Mich. 1979)].
______________________

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(So Great Pharaoh sent the Prince--Big Nosed, Moustache, and Glasses(?)--into the desert, disguised as an "Exile"--or having changed his name(?). Acts 7 reports that the Prince was skilled in the Great Pharaoh's subjugating arts. (The clarity is shown in Old Testament.) Agents would be created, and given even an edict, a non-negotiable demand: Deut. 23: 19-20. The Subjugation of People's--and in a lot of history--became the outcome, (Matt 25:14-30). Homeless denizens, even now: Are clearly public evidence.)


Say stupid fuck, when Russia was invading Ukraine in 2015, what did Potentate Obamugabe send them? Javelin anti-tank missiles? No? Oh he sent them TV Dinners.

Blow it out your ass, you pathetic traitor.
 
“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role,” the politician said. “Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”

Lindsey Graham

So has that body being the US Senate, determined that President Trump's conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in his role?
 
“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role,” the politician said. “Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”

Lindsey Graham

Lindsey Scarlett had a come-to-cheeto-jesus moment since then.

Yep. The party affiliation of the person sitting in the White House changed...thus he changed his view

He distilled the GOP's defense of Trump to its essence - 'Unh-uh!'
 
“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role,” the politician said. “Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”

Lindsey Graham

So has that body being the US Senate, determined that President Trump's conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in his role?

Not yet. It has not made it to that point.

First the other body has to decide if they think the president has done it.

Damn, do you not know how our government works?
 
“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role,” the politician said. “Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”

Lindsey Graham

So has that body being the US Senate, determined that President Trump's conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in his role?

Not yet. It has not made it to that point.

First the other body has to decide if they think the president has done it.

Damn, do you not know how our government works?

Of course I know how the government works, you silly goose. I'm just telling you that the Senate will exonerate him, he will go on the win his second term, and your investments will continue to profit.

Is that such a bad thing? If it is a bad thing and you prefer socialism, please cash out everything you have invested in, and redistribute it to me. Do it for the country.

I do take Paypal, you know.
 
Of course I know how the government works, you silly goose. I'm just telling you that the Senate will exonerate him, he will go on the win his second term, and your investments will continue to profit.

Is that such a bad thing? If it is a bad thing and you prefer socialism, please cash out everything you have invested in, and redistribute it to me. Do it for the country.

I do take Paypal, you know.

Of course they will exonerate him, the same way that the Senate exonerated Clinton.

I hope that they do a shit ton better his next 4 years than they have since he started his 2nd year...the markets have been dismal since then.
 
"Your Money Or Life," "Your Announcement or Your national defense," are actually recognized in US Law to be illegal. The caveat is that, "Your announcement or your National Defense," is never put on the actual tapes--until recently. The President's foul language is usually a Tweet, for example. Do Republicans even think that attempted murder rises to the level of an impeachable offense?

Conditional Assault Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.

So is it attempted murder, a veiled threat even? There is the widely public case, now, of the girlfriend promoting the suicide. "Stop seeing so and so, or I'll kill him!" is probably laughed off like the same President at NATO. Cutting off the lawful military assistance, then suggesting--weak language--a possible favor--even weaker language--has the problem of the evidence. The suicide victim is dead, the threats public evidence. The aid was "On Hold," easily public record in both Ukraine, Congress, and whatever the White House considers to be national origins of Mafia Don(?)!

So where Republicans are shouting and screaming veiled threats at witnesses--Committee members and the President himself--then what is anyone seeing? The famous "Mary Poppins" witness at the Schiff hearings felt threatened. There is testimony. It mirrors what happened leading up to the ambassadorial termination.

The broadly stated answer is, "Articles of Impeachment!" The specific evidence now fills reams, books--and whatever anyone put in the Reagan Library, even--the planes(?).

Treason would be difficult to show, but easy to infer, even.
____________________________
"With assault defined in terms of attempted battery, one may point a loaded gun at another, or flourish a knife in his face, with a threat, which he intends to carry out, to injure the other unless the latter does something he is not legally obliged to do or refrains from doing something he is legally entitled to do -- as where A, with loaded gun pointed, tells B, 'I'll shoot you if you say that again' or 'I'll fire if you don't raise your hands.' It is no defense to assault of the attempted-battery sort that the victim can and does avoid injury by acceding to the other's unlawful condition; or, putting it another way, the required intent to injure is not negatived by such a condition which accompanies the defendant's act and threat." [People v. Johnson, 407 Mich. 196, 245 (Mich. 1979)].
______________________

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(So Great Pharaoh sent the Prince--Big Nosed, Moustache, and Glasses(?)--into the desert, disguised as an "Exile"--or having changed his name(?). Acts 7 reports that the Prince was skilled in the Great Pharaoh's subjugating arts. (The clarity is shown in Old Testament.) Agents would be created, and given even an edict, a non-negotiable demand: Deut. 23: 19-20. The Subjugation of People's--and in a lot of history--became the outcome, (Matt 25:14-30). Homeless denizens, even now: Are clearly public evidence.)


The previous two buffoons engaged in never ending wars with thousands of deaths. Not a peep about impeaching those two idiots though. Carry on.
 
No poster answers, and no Republican on TV answers: Does attempted murder rise to the level of an impeachable offense? Then there is the matter of a conditional threat--a veiled threat. That one is currently in play.

The fact that nothing came of the phone call parody transcript--provided by U. S. hating White House--in the matter of not providing timely defense assistance, or an announcement of a Ukraine investigation: Is not a Legal Defense.

The televised threat of the Friday Witness, (Schiff Hearings) was seen by millions. The witness felt threatened, and given the pattern--as a female--of the Trump, Christie, Mulvaney, McConnell, and Graham concepts of "Gender Equality." Governor Christie often notes that the pattern people see is the Real Mafia Don
(if not in the so many words)!

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!
(Against regressive payroll tax, Ford GOP created equal amount per child Tax Credit: Matt 25: 14-30 v. Matt 20: 1-16. New GOP Kept the Regressive Stuff, and threw out the Obama Refundable Per Child equal amount per household adult tax credit! Anyone knows that arithmetic is an intentional act!)
 
No poster answers, and no Republican on TV answers: Does attempted murder rise to the level of an impeachable offense? Then there is the matter of a conditional threat--a veiled threat. That one is currently in play.

The fact that nothing came of the phone call parody transcript--provided by U. S. hating White House--in the matter of not providing timely defense assistance, or an announcement of a Ukraine investigation: Is not a Legal Defense.

The televised threat of the Friday Witness, (Schiff Hearings) was seen by millions. The witness felt threatened, and given the pattern--as a female--of the Trump, Christie, Mulvaney, McConnell, and Graham concepts of "Gender Equality." Governor Christie often notes that the pattern people see is the Real Mafia Don
(if not in the so many words)!

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!
(Against regressive payroll tax, Ford GOP created equal amount per child Tax Credit: Matt 25: 14-30 v. Matt 20: 1-16. New GOP Kept the Regressive Stuff, and threw out the Obama Refundable Per Child equal amount per household adult tax credit! Anyone knows that arithmetic is an intentional act!)

1. Attempted murder isn't the question, any more that 7 counts of perjury was. There is no conditional threat anymore than Nancy's call of "obstruction" for Trump taking her subpoenas to court is.

2. The defense assistance was delivered timely, and there was no announcement of an investigation, Zelensky obviously never knew that the funding was being delayed.

3. If a witness feels threatened, even if there was no threat, does that make a noise?

4. The impeachment is an "abuse of power' by the House as described by Turley.
There is a 3rd branch, the Judicial that can be used to settle petty non-criminal partisan disputes.

5. Please hurry up and impeach. I want to see the senate trial with all of the witnesses that Schiff wouldn't allow. Like Schiff, Ciaramella, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Page, Rosenstein, and the rest of the deep state coup plotters.
 
The Only-Loving-Putin is strong in kyzr-poster!
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1. Attempted murder isn't the question, any more that 7 counts of perjury was. There is no conditional threat anymore than Nancy's call of "obstruction" for Trump taking her subpoenas to court is.

Mascale: Putin-Trump-Loving kyzr-poster forgets that Putin is World Famous KGB, accustomed to murder! And so kyzr-poster fails to answer the question--in the Trump Administration--of whether or not attempted murder rises to the level of an impeachable offense. Matter of loyalty is apparently shown(?)!

2. The defense assistance was delivered timely, and there was no announcement of an investigation, Zelensky obviously never knew that the funding was being delayed.

Mascale: The assertion in kyzr-poster 2. is not a defense against a widely USA regarded charge of Conditional Assault or Veiled Threat.

3. If a witness feels threatened, even if there was no threat, does that make a noise?

Mascale: The threat was widely public and including in public comments--and so is a chargeable offense.

4. The impeachment is an "abuse of power' by the House as described by Turley.
There is a 3rd branch, the Judicial that can be used to settle petty non-criminal partisan disputes.

Mascale: Only murder-loving KGB adherents Trump, Turley, and kyzr-poster types are to be said asserting that a USA Constitutional duty is an abuse of power.

5. Please hurry up and impeach. I want to see the senate trial with all of the witnesses that Schiff wouldn't allow. Like Schiff, Ciaramella, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Page, Rosenstein, and the rest of the deep state coup plotters.

Mascale: The Senate Trial will have rules, House Managers, and the Chief Justice of the USA--not Putin-loving Trump, Turley, McConnell, kyzr-poster, Graham or other ideology-biased person or officer presiding. The matter of White House pro-KGB Putin is known internationally.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Intentional Acts of Arithmetic are even subject to Prosecution in USA)
 
Zippidy Doo Dah! Zippidy Yay! KGB-RNC both in play! Any can spot that! Any can say! Even the polling, is not in the way. . . .! There's an Eagle on my shoulder! It's The Truth! It's Actual! The case is now very Satisfactual!

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(And so: With Pharaoh's new agents now victims of a non-negotiable demand, (Deut 23: 19-20): Anyone surmises they were actually that stupid!)
 
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No poster answers, and no Republican on TV answers: Does attempted murder rise to the level of an impeachable offense? Then there is the matter of a conditional threat--a veiled threat. That one is currently in play.

The fact that nothing came of the phone call parody transcript--provided by U. S. hating White House--in the matter of not providing timely defense assistance, or an announcement of a Ukraine investigation: Is not a Legal Defense.

The televised threat of the Friday Witness, (Schiff Hearings) was seen by millions. The witness felt threatened, and given the pattern--as a female--of the Trump, Christie, Mulvaney, McConnell, and Graham concepts of "Gender Equality." Governor Christie often notes that the pattern people see is the Real Mafia Don
(if not in the so many words)!

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!
(Against regressive payroll tax, Ford GOP created equal amount per child Tax Credit: Matt 25: 14-30 v. Matt 20: 1-16. New GOP Kept the Regressive Stuff, and threw out the Obama Refundable Per Child equal amount per household adult tax credit! Anyone knows that arithmetic is an intentional act!)

You mean schiffs groomed "whistleblower".
 

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