Meet the green who doubts ‘The Science’

[Oddball]

I project nothing, Jethro...I've read Hayek and find great agreement with his observations and economics....Your politics and economics are nowhere near a fit with either Austrian economic models or libertarian philosophy, viz. strictly limited de jure governance.

Now quit derailing the thread with your emotional outbursts and personal recriminations and answer the question.

You know what it is, so it will not be repeated.

 

[Bfgrn]

I project nothing, Jethro...I've read Hayek and find great agreement with his observations and economics....Your politics and economics are nowhere near a fit with either Austrian economic models or libertarian philosophy, viz. strictly limited de jure governance.

Now quit derailing the thread with your emotional outbursts and personal recriminations and answer the question.

You know what it is, so it will not be repeated.

Now quit derailing the thread with your emotional outbursts and personal recriminations and answer the question.

Translation: Too close to the truth for your liking, so divert and obfuscate.

You really are a Jethro...Jethro...Foxfyre is the one that made the accusation that 'peer review' is 'so corrupted as to be laughable and worthy of suspicion every time it is brought up.'

I challenged him on it. So far, all he has provided it right wing echo chamber propaganda from the same right wing think tanks funded by the same right wing industries and cartels.

So go bring me some more of what you believe is chocolate, even though it looks and smells like dogshit.

 

[Oddball]

IOW, there is no evidence you would accept...Therefore, your demand for evidence is mere misdirection.

Thanks for the inadvertent, left-handed, circuitous candor.

 

[Big Fitz]

I project nothing, Jethro...I've read Hayek and find great agreement with his observations and economics....Your politics and economics are nowhere near a fit with either Austrian economic models or libertarian philosophy, viz. strictly limited de jure governance.

Now quit derailing the thread with your emotional outbursts and personal recriminations and answer the question.

You know what it is, so it will not be repeated.

Now quit derailing the thread with your emotional outbursts and personal recriminations and answer the question.

Translation: Too close to the truth for your liking, so divert and obfuscate.

You really are a Jethro...Jethro...Foxfyre is the one that made the accusation that 'peer review' is 'so corrupted as to be laughable and worthy of suspicion every time it is brought up.'

I challenged him on it. So far, all he has provided it right wing echo chamber propaganda from the same right wing think tanks funded by the same right wing industries and cartels.

So go bring me some more of what you believe is chocolate, even though it looks and smells like dogshit.

One of the dumbest lines of logic I've ever seen on this forum outside of Octodolt. And that's saying something. Bfgrn, I doubt you could think your way out of a wet paper bag spotting you one open end, a map, instructional video on how to leave and tour guide..

 

[Bfgrn]

IOW, there is no evidence you would accept.

Thanks for the inadvertent, left-handed, circuitous candor.

Again, Translation...you CAN'T provide any that isn't right wing echo chamber propaganda from the same right wing think tanks funded by the same right wing industries and cartels.

The moral of the story Jethro: here's why your breath smells like dogshit. It's not chocolate, don't keep tasting it pinhead.

Hey Jethro, did BP drill for oil in their parking lot yet to avoid deep ocean drilling (where the oil IS)? Maybe Uncle Jed can fire off some rounds with his varmint shotgun and 'up through the ground comes a bubblin' crude'

 

[Oddball]

blablabla....rightwingechochamber...yammeryammeryammer....peabrain....maumaumaumau....dogshitchocolate.....balberblabberbabberblabber....BPoildrilling....prattleptattleprattleprattle....

Still no relevance to the thread...Still no evidence that you would accept.

 

[Foxfyre]

And day-ummmm.....nobody took me up on those great odds I offered either. Imagine that.

 

[Bfgrn]

I project nothing, Jethro...I've read Hayek and find great agreement with his observations and economics....Your politics and economics are nowhere near a fit with either Austrian economic models or libertarian philosophy, viz. strictly limited de jure governance.

Now quit derailing the thread with your emotional outbursts and personal recriminations and answer the question.

You know what it is, so it will not be repeated.

Now quit derailing the thread with your emotional outbursts and personal recriminations and answer the question.

Translation: Too close to the truth for your liking, so divert and obfuscate.

You really are a Jethro...Jethro...Foxfyre is the one that made the accusation that 'peer review' is 'so corrupted as to be laughable and worthy of suspicion every time it is brought up.'

I challenged him on it. So far, all he has provided it right wing echo chamber propaganda from the same right wing think tanks funded by the same right wing industries and cartels.

So go bring me some more of what you believe is chocolate, even though it looks and smells like dogshit.

One of the dumbest lines of logic I've ever seen on this forum outside of Octodolt. And that's saying something. Bfgrn, I doubt you could think your way out of a wet paper bag spotting you one open end, a map, instructional video on how to leave and tour guide..

Dumb Big Fizzle?

Dumb would be a moron that believes the overwhelming majority of climatologists and scientists have suddenly decided to sign up for a huge left wing conspiracy to fool the public for financial gain.

And that the same think tanks, funding industries and manufactured echo chamber that fought FOR the tobacco industry, and used the same tactics to prevent legislation to ban smoking, deny acid rain was real and ozone depletion was happening is SUDDENLY telling the truth.

 

[Oddball]

Riiiiiight...The "echo chamber" thingy only works on one side of the board.

Dadgummm, Jethro, you sure are one un-analytical and un-introspective sumbich!

 

[Foxfyre]

Can dual accounts get past Gunny's filters restricting members to one screen name? I swear BFGRN reminds me of a couple of others who are equally ah.....erratic.....in their postings. It's hard to believe there would be more than one whose sole purpose seems to be insulting other members and not addressing the actual topic.

I think I would still be safe in offering good odds on those links too.

 

[Bfgrn]

Riiiiiight...The "echo chamber" thingy only works on one side of the board.

Dadgummm, Jethro, you sure are one un-analytical and un-introspective sumbich!

And you are the genius that started this thread touting the scientific acumen of Peter Taylor, who said about HIMSELF in his autobiography:

“In truth, in the scientific realms in which I worked, and gained by now, some standing, I was an impostor. I am not a scientist. Apart from my brief survey of tree-hole communities when I successfully correlated insect larvae diversity with circumference and aspect of the hole to the sun, which, in any case, had been done many times before, I have never ‘done’ science. In my work I have relied certainly upon an understanding of scientific theory and a memory for facts and relationships, and upon an instinct for the hidden and not yet known, but fundamentally I have been a linguist and an actor. My scientific degrees were linguistic exercises in critical review. My performances on television, in public inquiries, on tribunals and commissions, those of an extremely well-briefed lawyer, the ultimate actor. Which is not to say there is no dedication to truth.”

 

[Oddball]

Still won't answer the question, I see.

 

[Big Fitz]

Translation: Too close to the truth for your liking, so divert and obfuscate.

You really are a Jethro...Jethro...Foxfyre is the one that made the accusation that 'peer review' is 'so corrupted as to be laughable and worthy of suspicion every time it is brought up.'

I challenged him on it. So far, all he has provided it right wing echo chamber propaganda from the same right wing think tanks funded by the same right wing industries and cartels.

So go bring me some more of what you believe is chocolate, even though it looks and smells like dogshit.

One of the dumbest lines of logic I've ever seen on this forum outside of Octodolt. And that's saying something. Bfgrn, I doubt you could think your way out of a wet paper bag spotting you one open end, a map, instructional video on how to leave and tour guide..

Dumb Big Fizzle?

Dumb would be a moron that believes the overwhelming majority of climatologists and scientists have suddenly decided to sign up for a huge left wing conspiracy to fool the public for financial gain.

And that the same think tanks, funding industries and manufactured echo chamber that fought FOR the tobacco industry, and used the same tactics to prevent legislation to ban smoking, deny acid rain was real and ozone depletion was happening is SUDDENLY telling the truth.

Buddy...

You're a modern medical miracle. Paralyzed from the neck up. You can cut and paste with the most spastic of gibbering monkeys on the left, but you can't think worth a good goddamn.

I mean really, You don't know whether you're shot, fucked, powder-burned or snake bit! Can you stay on target at all without firing off into flights of fancy you are being intellectual with no context?

You can't have a conversation or even conduct debate if one of the parties is shooting off with Jabberwocky all the time and brings nothing to the table. This may seem like intellectual discourse to Code Pink and other collective retards more interested in hearing themselves gibber in the dark, but grown ups don't act that way. Infantile dipshits do.

Now do you want to DISCUSS something, or spout more libberish here? Choice is yours. Step up or step out.

 

[Bfgrn]

One of the dumbest lines of logic I've ever seen on this forum outside of Octodolt. And that's saying something. Bfgrn, I doubt you could think your way out of a wet paper bag spotting you one open end, a map, instructional video on how to leave and tour guide..

Dumb Big Fizzle?

Dumb would be a moron that believes the overwhelming majority of climatologists and scientists have suddenly decided to sign up for a huge left wing conspiracy to fool the public for financial gain.

And that the same think tanks, funding industries and manufactured echo chamber that fought FOR the tobacco industry, and used the same tactics to prevent legislation to ban smoking, deny acid rain was real and ozone depletion was happening is SUDDENLY telling the truth.

Buddy...

You're a modern medical miracle. Paralyzed from the neck up. You can cut and paste with the most spastic of gibbering monkeys on the left, but you can't think worth a good goddamn.

I mean really, You don't know whether you're shot, fucked, powder-burned or snake bit! Can you stay on target at all without firing off into flights of fancy you are being intellectual with no context?

You can't have a conversation or even conduct debate if one of the parties is shooting off with Jabberwocky all the time and brings nothing to the table. This may seem like intellectual discourse to Code Pink and other collective retards more interested in hearing themselves gibber in the dark, but grown ups don't act that way. Infantile dipshits do.

Now do you want to DISCUSS something, or spout more libberish here? Choice is yours. Step up or step out.

What I posted is very sound logical thinking, common sense and awareness of human nature. What you just posted is the longest string of mindless garbage, Jabberwocky and gibberish in thread HISTORY.

ONE question pea brain...are you claiming the vast majority of climatologists and scientists, who spent years in college studying their chosen field, and working in the field at their craft have suddenly decided to throw that all away, and sign up for some leftist political agenda and agree to try to fool the public?

 

[Bfgrn]

Still won't answer the question, I see.

Here's the issue Jethro...'peer review' is 'so corrupted as to be laughable and worthy of suspicion every time it is brought up.'

Bring me the best proof your little pea brain can muster that it is corrupted...

If that isn't clear, have the butler go find mommy or daddy...

 

[Oddball]

Right...And the counter-question remains:

What proof would you accept?

It's an easy enough question...One that even a sixth-grade edumacated genius like you can comprehend.

Seems rather obvious that the answer eludes your grasp.

 

[Bfgrn]

Right...And the counter-question remains:

What proof would you accept?

It's an easy enough question...One that even a sixth-grade edumacated genius like you can comprehend.

Seems rather obvious that the answer eludes your grasp.

What IS obvious and eludes your little pea...if it is irrefutable proof, it will stand alone.

If it is more dogshit posing as chocolate like Foxfyre dumped, we will get a popper scooper, unless you have acquired a taste for dogshit after tasting it so many times. Then I will get you a cone...

 

[Oddball]

So, you have no unambiguous and definitive criteria for what constitutes proof that you'd accept.

Thanks for taking all night to get to the nut of the matter.

 

[Bfgrn]

So, you have no unambiguous and definitive criteria for what constitutes proof that you'd accept.

Thanks for taking all night to get to the nut of the matter.

Thank you for continuing to be subservient to my criteria

 

[Big Fitz]

What I posted is very sound logical thinking, common sense and awareness of human nature. What you just posted is the longest string of mindless garbage, Jabberwocky and gibberish in thread HISTORY.

You ain't seen nothing yet, pedro. But I would say that your sound logical thinking, common sense and awareness of human nature are mambo dogface banana patch with bluebird flaming tinkleberries.

In other words, non-germane, and irrelevant to the conversation at hand. When someone asks you a question about the nature of climatology for instance, your response cannot be a treatise on why you like dragonflies.

Hence the lambasting of your excessive intellectual decrepitude.

ONE question pea brain...are you claiming the vast majority of climatologists and scientists, who spent years in college studying their chosen field, and working in the field at their craft have suddenly decided to throw that all away, and sign up for some leftist political agenda and agree to try to fool the public?

Now here's how a sane, rational and intelligent adult handles a direct question that is of some relation to the subject at hand.

I am not saying that the 'vast majority' of climatologists have decided to 'throw it all away'. I am saying that SOME climatologists, namely Hansen, Mann, Jones and a few dozen others have decided that political outcomes are more important than scientific truth. They have corrupted and allowed to be corrupted the peer review process by compatriots who were willing to take their work on face value, and be put off politely when questioned on HOW they did their testings, provide copies of their raw data and other rational, acceptable requests. These scientists then went with the assumption that Mann/Hansen/Jones and their associates involved were telling the truth and their science was accurate.

When it was discovered that political ideologues in the IPCC had corrupted that institution's work with using unsourced, un-peer reviewed activist propaganda as sources, many who had stood by the IPCC as well as their findings, reacted in quite appropriate horror.

Then the Climategate emails where the programmers left in the source code notes on how to FORCE data to give the conclusion desired by the warmists, there was now not only reasonable doubt in the science, but evidence of criminal fraud for the sake of both defrauding the world populace at large as well as corrupt scientific journals and organziations for the sake of political results and personal gain. (To a government 4 million is nothing, but to a research scientist... that's FOUR MILLION DOLLARS!!)

So there you have it. Politics corrupted the IPCC, East Anglia University, NOAA, NASA and was enabled by ignorance, trust and naivete that a few people would dare to do such horrible things. Combine this with political, industrial and commercial forces that stood and still stand to gain TRILLIONS of dollars in ill gotten funds due to the fraudulent science, are still applying pressure to get legislation passed to guarantee their revenue flow.

And you see now scientists who before would have defended these errant frauds with their lives now having to backpedel and say... maybe we were too hasty to take their words for it... in essence. And with new research, new 'unbelievers' are born and they are rapidly overtaking the currently stunted and stifled peer review process that has been made into a kangaroo court of pro-Anthropogenic Climate Change only.

This is what we have been saying for months... years now. Green is dead. Very dead. The dreams of getting global Fabian socialism rammed through on it's back is over, and even if it does pass before it all falls apart, it's just more mass in the air about to fall with the rest of the crumbling structure of global fascism that the left is so in love with.

There's your adult answer. If you want articles, be your own research monkey. Adults also do that too.