Medicare For All Fastest way to capitalism?

They only reason they "won" was because of the EC and Gerrymandering.

They Gerrymandered the shit out of the EC.

Sorry, I guess I was putting too many ideas in once sentence for you. That happens when talking to someone as clearly as retarded as you are. Did you eat paint chips as a child?

Sorry, I guess I was putting too many ideas in once sentence for you.

Yeah, too many stupid ideas in one sentence.
Such a glimpse into the "mind" of a liberal frightened me to the core.

Feel free to expand on your gerrymandering claim. I'll be happy to point out your errors.
 
Yeah, too many stupid ideas in one sentence.
Such a glimpse into the "mind" of a liberal frightened me to the core.

Feel free to expand on your gerrymandering claim. I'll be happy to point out your errors.

That a lot of districts are drawn specifically to put Republicans in office.

If we allocated representation on pure votes, the Democrats would have taken the house in 2012 and again in 2016. I'm sorry you don't get this concept, but don't worry, you will after the 2020 census and Democrats are drawing the maps
 
Health care for all (Medicare for all) would be cheaper and better. It would replace the convoluted socialist system we have now with a simple more efficient socialist system. Then we could require published prices and higher copays until we had capitalistic price and quality controls.

Insurance prior to Obamacare wasn't socialist.
 
Yeah, too many stupid ideas in one sentence.
Such a glimpse into the "mind" of a liberal frightened me to the core.

Feel free to expand on your gerrymandering claim. I'll be happy to point out your errors.

That a lot of districts are drawn specifically to put Republicans in office.

If we allocated representation on pure votes, the Democrats would have taken the house in 2012 and again in 2016. I'm sorry you don't get this concept, but don't worry, you will after the 2020 census and Democrats are drawing the maps

If frogs has wings they wouldn't bump their asses when they jumped.

Do you mean Democrats are going to gerrymander things in a manner they now call a bad thing. What you lefties fail to acknowledge is that there are 23 GERRYMANDERED majority minority districts where those elected couldn't get in the Capitol without a built in guarantee.
 
Insurance prior to Obamacare wasn't socialist.

Actually it kind of was.

Prior to Obamacare, if you were lucky enough to have insurance, there were one of two conditions.

1) You were paying in for premiums (or your boss was) but you were healthy, so you were getting nothing back that year.

2) You were paying in premiums, but had a serious health issue that year, far beyond what you were paying in, and other people in condition 1 were paying your way.

That's about as fucking socialist as you get.

A truly capitalist system is no insurance, no programs, and you only get as much health care as you can pay for...

Most of you would be dead and bankrupt.

Do you mean Democrats are going to gerrymander things in a manner they now call a bad thing. What you lefties fail to acknowledge is that there are 23 GERRYMANDERED majority minority districts where those elected couldn't get in the Capitol without a built in guarantee.

23? Okay, let's look at that. Minorities make up 30% of the population. so by that logic, 30% of the Congress should be minority.

that means we should have 130 minority congressmen. We don't.
 
Insurance prior to Obamacare wasn't socialist.

Actually it kind of was.

Prior to Obamacare, if you were lucky enough to have insurance, there were one of two conditions.

1) You were paying in for premiums (or your boss was) but you were healthy, so you were getting nothing back that year.

2) You were paying in premiums, but had a serious health issue that year, far beyond what you were paying in, and other people in condition 1 were paying your way.

That's about as fucking socialist as you get.

A truly capitalist system is no insurance, no programs, and you only get as much health care as you can pay for...

Most of you would be dead and bankrupt.

Do you mean Democrats are going to gerrymander things in a manner they now call a bad thing. What you lefties fail to acknowledge is that there are 23 GERRYMANDERED majority minority districts where those elected couldn't get in the Capitol without a built in guarantee.

23? Okay, let's look at that. Minorities make up 30% of the population. so by that logic, 30% of the Congress should be minority.

that means we should have 130 minority congressmen. We don't.


It wasn't a matter of luck to have insurance. It meant you were doing what it took to provide to yourself what you should be providing to yourself.

Capitalism involves buying what you want to buy and if you choose not to, that's also fine. You're equating insurance with things like food stamps. While people eat every day, they don't go to the doctor every day.

Those are the black gerrymandered districts. In the states where those districts exist, none have a greater than 50% black population yet districts within the states are divided. That's how they're elected, by district.

By your logic, only 30% of the NBA, NFL, etc. should be minority. You and I both know they aren't. Should be practice your concept with professional sports?
 
It wasn't a matter of luck to have insurance. It meant you were doing what it took to provide to yourself what you should be providing to yourself.

Well,t hat would be awesome and stuff, if the Insurance companies kept their promises and didn't do what they did when I busted up my knee, which was fight me tooth and nail over every treatment my doctor thought was needed.... and encourage my awful boss to get me off the payroll.

Capitalism involves buying what you want to buy and if you choose not to, that's also fine. You're equating insurance with things like food stamps. While people eat every day, they don't go to the doctor every day.

No, it isn't fine. No one should die of a treatable disease because they couldn't afford insurance or their insurance company decided keeping their promises cut into the profit margin. "What, you have breast cancer? THat's a pre-existing condition because you had acne was a teen!"

Those are the black gerrymandered districts. In the states where those districts exist, none have a greater than 50% black population yet districts within the states are divided. That's how they're elected, by district.

Actually, no. Most of those districts are majority minority. In IL, we have the 1, 2 and 7 districts, which are black, and the 4th, which is Hispanic. They are drawn very oddly to crowd all the minorities into one place.

By your logic, only 30% of the NBA, NFL, etc. should be minority. You and I both know they aren't. Should be practice your concept with professional sports?

No, because the NFL doesn't purport to represent the people. The House of Representatives does.
 
It wasn't a matter of luck to have insurance. It meant you were doing what it took to provide to yourself what you should be providing to yourself.

Well,t hat would be awesome and stuff, if the Insurance companies kept their promises and didn't do what they did when I busted up my knee, which was fight me tooth and nail over every treatment my doctor thought was needed.... and encourage my awful boss to get me off the payroll.

Capitalism involves buying what you want to buy and if you choose not to, that's also fine. You're equating insurance with things like food stamps. While people eat every day, they don't go to the doctor every day.

No, it isn't fine. No one should die of a treatable disease because they couldn't afford insurance or their insurance company decided keeping their promises cut into the profit margin. "What, you have breast cancer? THat's a pre-existing condition because you had acne was a teen!"

Those are the black gerrymandered districts. In the states where those districts exist, none have a greater than 50% black population yet districts within the states are divided. That's how they're elected, by district.

Actually, no. Most of those districts are majority minority. In IL, we have the 1, 2 and 7 districts, which are black, and the 4th, which is Hispanic. They are drawn very oddly to crowd all the minorities into one place.

By your logic, only 30% of the NBA, NFL, etc. should be minority. You and I both know they aren't. Should be practice your concept with professional sports?

No, because the NFL doesn't purport to represent the people. The House of Representatives does.

Your boss should get rid of you because you're a whining little shit.

If you think someone should get something they can't afford, pay their bill yourself. YOU claim they deserve it.

So gerrymandering is OK when you benefit from it but wrong when you don't like it?

There isn't but one member of the House that represents me. It's the one from my district. The one from yours doesn't represent me nor does that person care about me. I do see you support a concept when you like the results and oppose it when you don't.
 
Yeah, too many stupid ideas in one sentence.
Such a glimpse into the "mind" of a liberal frightened me to the core.

Feel free to expand on your gerrymandering claim. I'll be happy to point out your errors.

That a lot of districts are drawn specifically to put Republicans in office.

If we allocated representation on pure votes, the Democrats would have taken the house in 2012 and again in 2016. I'm sorry you don't get this concept, but don't worry, you will after the 2020 census and Democrats are drawing the maps

If we allocated representation on pure votes, the Democrats would have taken the house in 2012 and again in 2016.

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Wikipedia says you're full of shit.

2016 United States House of Representatives elections - Wikipedia

Now, if we allocated without including illegal aliens, how much power would the Dems lose?
 
Insurance prior to Obamacare wasn't socialist.

Actually it kind of was.

Prior to Obamacare, if you were lucky enough to have insurance, there were one of two conditions.

1) You were paying in for premiums (or your boss was) but you were healthy, so you were getting nothing back that year.

2) You were paying in premiums, but had a serious health issue that year, far beyond what you were paying in, and other people in condition 1 were paying your way.

That's about as fucking socialist as you get.

A truly capitalist system is no insurance, no programs, and you only get as much health care as you can pay for...

Most of you would be dead and bankrupt.

Do you mean Democrats are going to gerrymander things in a manner they now call a bad thing. What you lefties fail to acknowledge is that there are 23 GERRYMANDERED majority minority districts where those elected couldn't get in the Capitol without a built in guarantee.

23? Okay, let's look at that. Minorities make up 30% of the population. so by that logic, 30% of the Congress should be minority.

that means we should have 130 minority congressmen. We don't.

Okay, let's look at that. Minorities make up 30% of the population.

Excellent point. Let's make more districts no more than 30% minority, see how the CBC does.
 
Insurance prior to Obamacare wasn't socialist.

Actually it kind of was.

Prior to Obamacare, if you were lucky enough to have insurance, there were one of two conditions.

1) You were paying in for premiums (or your boss was) but you were healthy, so you were getting nothing back that year.

2) You were paying in premiums, but had a serious health issue that year, far beyond what you were paying in, and other people in condition 1 were paying your way.

That's about as fucking socialist as you get.

A truly capitalist system is no insurance, no programs, and you only get as much health care as you can pay for...

Most of you would be dead and bankrupt.

Do you mean Democrats are going to gerrymander things in a manner they now call a bad thing. What you lefties fail to acknowledge is that there are 23 GERRYMANDERED majority minority districts where those elected couldn't get in the Capitol without a built in guarantee.

23? Okay, let's look at that. Minorities make up 30% of the population. so by that logic, 30% of the Congress should be minority.

that means we should have 130 minority congressmen. We don't.

Okay, let's look at that. Minorities make up 30% of the population.

Excellent point. Let's make more districts no more than 30% minority, see how the CBC does.

Joe has no problem applying that 30% when he likes the results but runs from it when he doesn't like it.
 
Insurance prior to Obamacare wasn't socialist.

Actually it kind of was.

Prior to Obamacare, if you were lucky enough to have insurance, there were one of two conditions.

1) You were paying in for premiums (or your boss was) but you were healthy, so you were getting nothing back that year.

2) You were paying in premiums, but had a serious health issue that year, far beyond what you were paying in, and other people in condition 1 were paying your way.

That's about as fucking socialist as you get.

Nope. Socialism is imposed by government. Try again.
 
Insurance prior to Obamacare wasn't socialist.

Actually it kind of was.

Prior to Obamacare, if you were lucky enough to have insurance, there were one of two conditions.

1) You were paying in for premiums (or your boss was) but you were healthy, so you were getting nothing back that year.

2) You were paying in premiums, but had a serious health issue that year, far beyond what you were paying in, and other people in condition 1 were paying your way.

That's about as fucking socialist as you get.

Nope. Socialism is imposed by government. Try again.

People like dumbass Joe Boy think anything that's done cooperatively, even if private, is socialism.
 
Insurance prior to Obamacare wasn't socialist.

Actually it kind of was.

Prior to Obamacare, if you were lucky enough to have insurance, there were one of two conditions.

1) You were paying in for premiums (or your boss was) but you were healthy, so you were getting nothing back that year.

2) You were paying in premiums, but had a serious health issue that year, far beyond what you were paying in, and other people in condition 1 were paying your way.

That's about as fucking socialist as you get.

Nope. Socialism is imposed by government. Try again.

People like dumbass Joe Boy think anything that's done cooperatively, even if private, is socialism.

Equivocation for the win. I guess. Or not.
 
Insurance prior to Obamacare wasn't socialist.

Actually it kind of was.

Prior to Obamacare, if you were lucky enough to have insurance, there were one of two conditions.

1) You were paying in for premiums (or your boss was) but you were healthy, so you were getting nothing back that year.

2) You were paying in premiums, but had a serious health issue that year, far beyond what you were paying in, and other people in condition 1 were paying your way.

That's about as fucking socialist as you get.

Nope. Socialism is imposed by government. Try again.

People like dumbass Joe Boy think anything that's done cooperatively, even if private, is socialism.

Equivocation for the win. I guess. Or not.

He would think my neighbors having a block party and everyone bringing something is socialism because we cooperated.
 
Insurance prior to Obamacare wasn't socialist.

Actually it kind of was.

Prior to Obamacare, if you were lucky enough to have insurance, there were one of two conditions.

1) You were paying in for premiums (or your boss was) but you were healthy, so you were getting nothing back that year.

2) You were paying in premiums, but had a serious health issue that year, far beyond what you were paying in, and other people in condition 1 were paying your way.

That's about as fucking socialist as you get.

Nope. Socialism is imposed by government. Try again.

People like dumbass Joe Boy think anything that's done cooperatively, even if private, is socialism.

Equivocation for the win. I guess. Or not.

He would think my neighbors having a block party and everyone bringing something is socialism because we cooperated.

This is why I think conservatives err when they willingly adopt the stingy reactionary caricature. Opposing socialism doesn't mean opposing cooperation, or community. It just means we won't resort to violence to achieve it.
 
Actually it kind of was.

Prior to Obamacare, if you were lucky enough to have insurance, there were one of two conditions.

1) You were paying in for premiums (or your boss was) but you were healthy, so you were getting nothing back that year.

2) You were paying in premiums, but had a serious health issue that year, far beyond what you were paying in, and other people in condition 1 were paying your way.

That's about as fucking socialist as you get.

Nope. Socialism is imposed by government. Try again.

People like dumbass Joe Boy think anything that's done cooperatively, even if private, is socialism.

Equivocation for the win. I guess. Or not.

He would think my neighbors having a block party and everyone bringing something is socialism because we cooperated.

This is why I think conservatives err when they willingly adopt the stingy reactionary caricature. Opposing socialism doesn't mean opposing cooperation, or community. It just means we won't resort to violence to achieve it.

That's because socialism and doing things cooperatively aren't the same thing. I believe that if you want to help someone, that should be your choice not the the government's place to force it. I also believe that if you claim to care for someone that doesn't have (fill in the blank),. it should be on that person or persons to fund it themselves. I find that bleeding heart Liberals think claiming to care is the same as actually having done something. More than once they've responded to that concept with "I can't afford to do it myself". To them I say, STFU demanding others do something if you can't do it yourself.
 
The real reason they didn't repeal it is because too many of their own inbred, bible thumping voters will figure out that the ACA that gives them health care is the same thing as that ObamaCare they hate so much.

They didn't repeal it because evil and stupid liberals have given capitalism a bad name, especially as it relates to health care.
 
Socialism:
": any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done "
Merriam Webster dictionary
 
The real reason they didn't repeal it is because too many of their own inbred, bible thumping voters will figure out that the ACA that gives them health care is the same thing as that ObamaCare they hate so much.

They didn't repeal it because evil and stupid liberals have given capitalism a bad name, especially as it relates to health care.

Huh? Republicans didn't repeal ACA because of liberals??? That's exactly as stupid as liberals blaming ACA on the Republicans.
 

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