Medicare For All Fastest way to capitalism?

[EdwardBaiamonte]

He's under the delusion that we could give politicians complete control over 100% of our healthcare system,

which is about what they have now. There is no reason why the Canadian govt gives its citizens a 70% discount on health care and ours cant.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

No. I rarely understand your posts to be honest. You're not quite the troll daniel is, but you share his lack of clarity and fixation on "custom" terminology.

why not try to tell me where you are confused about OP and I will help you understand in language you can understand?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

He's under the delusion that we could give politicians complete control over 100% of our healthcare system,

which is about what they have now. There is no reason why the Canadian govt gives its citizens a 70% discount on heath care and our cant.

If you want long waits, inferior equipment and old drugs, get your whiney old butt up to Canada.
We'll miss you.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

But you want 100% government control....first.

they have nearly 100% control now as does Canada. Medicare for all is not more control. IN fact in some ways less.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yeah, but we'd miss the sickly whiners like you who can't pay for your own healthcare.

so you lost debate and switch to personal attack? Sad.

Sickly whiners will be the first to suffer when the rationing under 100% government control occurs.
And we'd miss your whining.

I'm advocating capitalism not 100% government control.

But you want 100% government control....first.

they have nearly 100% control now as does Canada. Medicare for all is not more control. IN fact in some ways less.

they have nearly 100% control now

And they haven't fixed it already? DERP!

Medicare for all is not more control. IN fact in some ways less.

By all means, explain your "logic".

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

If you want long waits, inferior equipment and old drugs, get your whiney old butt up to Canada.
We'll miss you.

they deliver equal medical care on all quality dimensions at 35% of our cost with a system that is no more socialist than ours.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If you want long waits, inferior equipment and old drugs, get your whiney old butt up to Canada.
We'll miss you.

they deliver equal medical care on all quality dimensions at 35% of our cost with a system that is no more socialist than ours.

Right. With long waits, inferior equipment and old drugs.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

so you lost debate and switch to personal attack? Sad.

Sickly whiners will be the first to suffer when the rationing under 100% government control occurs.
And we'd miss your whining.

I'm advocating capitalism not 100% government control.

But you want 100% government control....first.

they have nearly 100% control now as does Canada. Medicare for all is not more control. IN fact in some ways less.

they have nearly 100% control now

And they haven't fixed it already? DERP!

Medicare for all is not more control. IN fact in some ways less.

By all means, explain your "logic".

most here, in the big $ years, are on VA Medicare Medicaid IHC Schip, community clinics, etc which is pure socialism and the rest of us are in Obamcare and state regulation hell to the point where you conclude Canada has a more efficient socialist system than our primarily socialist system. In America you are locked into one of the bureaucracies whereas under single payer in Canada you are not.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Right. With long waits, inferior equipment and old drugs.

silly non scientific nonsense

In the Commonwealth Fund’s overall ranking of health system performance, Canada came in fifth and the U.S. came in sixth, out of six countries. On the other hand, the WHO’s 2000 World Health Report gave Canada a slightly better review, ranking it 30th for overall health system performance – above three of the other countries from the Commonwealth study (Australia, New Zealand and the U.S.) but below the other two (the U.K. and Germany). All of these countries, except the U.S., have publicly funded health care, as does every major country in the WHO’s top ten.

 

[dblack]

I never thought it would be so easy to push the US into socialism, but that sure seems like where we're headed.

 

[danielpalos]

let's "blame the right wing" for having no better solutions at lower cost, merely nothing but repeal.

 

[dblack]

let's "blame the right wing" for having no better solutions at lower cost, merely nothing but repeal.

Danny, you're out of your element.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I never thought it would be so easy to push the US into socialism, but that sure seems like where we're headed.

we've been there forever in health care and liberal are actually so stupid that want socialism every where in our economy!!

 

[dblack]

I never thought it would be so easy to push the US into socialism, but that sure seems like where we're headed.

we've been there forever in health care and liberal are actually so stupid that want socialism every where in our economy!!

Says the 'capitalist' who wants to nationalize health insurance.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

let's "blame the right wing" for having no better solutions at lower cost, merely nothing but repeal.

Danny, you're out of your element.

He thought the thread title said....Medical Weed For All.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I never thought it would be so easy to push the US into socialism, but that sure seems like where we're headed.

we've been there forever in health care and liberal are actually so stupid that want socialism every where in our economy!!

Says the 'capitalist' who want's to nationalize health insurance.

I want to nationalize it then turn it capitalist with published prices and higher copays

How do you want propose we get it to capitalism?

 

[dblack]

I never thought it would be so easy to push the US into socialism, but that sure seems like where we're headed.

we've been there forever in health care and liberal are actually so stupid that want socialism every where in our economy!!

Says the 'capitalist' who want's to nationalize health insurance.

I want to nationalize it then turn it capitalist with published prices and higher copays

What the fuck does that even mean? You want to force them to publish prices and have higher copays? Piss off. You have no clue what a free market is about.

How do you want propose we get it to capitalism?

Repeal all the stupid laws regulating it.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You want to force them to publish prices and have higher copays? Piss off. You have no clue what a free market is about.
.

a free market is when you have published prices and people shopping and paying (copays) with their own money. Do you understand now?

 

[dblack]

You want to force them to publish prices and have higher copays? Piss off. You have no clue what a free market is about.
.

a free market is when you have published prices and people shopping and paying (copays) with their own money. Do you understand now?

No, Ed. You're a fucking idiot.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Repeal all the stupid laws regulating it.

I'd agree but that's not remotely on the table in a million years and it would be hugely chaotic.

Fastest way to capitalism is universal which is certainly on the table (and would cut costs 70% anyway) .Then new laws to publish prices and then higher and higher copays until you had a capitalist system. Do you finally understand now? Reread OP