Medicaid for the middle class?

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We still keep finding more goodies in Obamacare:eusa_whistle:

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama's health care law would let several million middle-class people get nearly free insurance meant for the poor, a twist government number crunchers say they discovered only after the complex bill was signed.

The change would affect early retirees: A married couple could have an annual income of about $64,000 and still get Medicaid, said officials who make long-range cost estimates for the Health and Human Services department.

After initially downplaying any concern, the Obama administration said late Tuesday it would look for a fix.

Up to 3 million more people could qualify for Medicaid in 2014 as a result of the anomaly. That's because, in a major change from today, most of their Social Security benefits would no longer be counted as income for determining eligibility. It might be compared to allowing middle-class people to qualify for food stamps.

Medicare chief actuary Richard Foster says the situation keeps him up at night.


"I don't generally comment on the pros or cons of policy, but that just doesn't make sense," Foster said during a question-and-answer session at a recent professional society meeting.

"This is a situation that got no attention at all," added Foster. "And even now, as I raise the issue with various policymakers, people are not rushing to say ... we need to do something about this."

Administration officials said Tuesday they now see the problem. "We are concerned that, as a matter of law, some middle-income Americans may be receiving coverage through Medicaid, which is meant to serve only the neediest Americans," said Health and Human Services spokesman Richard Sorian. "We are exploring options to address this issue."

Administration officials and senior Democratic lawmakers initially defended the change, saying it wasn't a loophole but the result of a well-meaning effort to simplify the rules for deciding who would get help under the new health care law. Instead of a hodgepodge, there would be one national policy.

But Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, called the situation "unacceptable" and said he intended to look into it.

Governors have been clamoring for relief from Medicaid costs, complaining that federal rules drive up spending and limit state options. The program is now one of the top issues in budget negotiations between the White House and Congress. Republicans want to roll back federal requirements that block states from limiting eligibility.

AP Exclusive: Medicaid for the middle class? - Yahoo! News
 
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"The fact that this is being discovered now tells you, what else is baked into this law?" said Leavitt, who served as Health and Human Services secretary under President George H.W. Bush. "It clearly begins to reveal that the nature of the law was to put more and more people under eligibility for government insurance."

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They need to start over.
 
This is something that can be addressed before 2014. So long as everyone is aware of it, I'm sure they will fix it.

Yeah I'm sure...Maybe these people should read bills before they pass them These idiots that can't even bother to read the laws they pass before passing them should be sanctioned for dereliction of duty. But the libs don't care...."these people want what’s best for us":cuckoo:

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That's what happens when you ram through 2000+ pages of legislation at midnight on Christmas eve, without anyone reading it. It's bad law. Period.
 
That's what happens when you ram through 2000+ pages of legislation at midnight on Christmas eve, without anyone reading it. It's bad law. Period.

This has to be one of the weakest arguments you guys have. The issue has been a core position of the Democratic Party for decades, and they won an election over a year before the bill was passed. It's pretty absurd to claim the bill showed up in the dead of the night.
 
That's what happens when you ram through 2000+ pages of legislation at midnight on Christmas eve, without anyone reading it. It's bad law. Period.

This has to be one of the weakest arguments you guys have. The issue has been a core position of the Democratic Party for decades, and they won an election over a year before the bill was passed. It's pretty absurd to claim the bill showed up in the dead of the night.

:lol::lol::lol:

Lame as a dead dick errrrr duck! :cuckoo:
 
That's what happens when you ram through 2000+ pages of legislation at midnight on Christmas eve, without anyone reading it. It's bad law. Period.

This has to be one of the weakest arguments you guys have. The issue has been a core position of the Democratic Party for decades, and they won an election over a year before the bill was passed. It's pretty absurd to claim the bill showed up in the dead of the night.

"Issue" is not a bill. This whole thing was poorly written, bits and pieces of payoffs and political favors, and was not even read by the people that passed it or the President who signed it, and for anybody to say this law is a great thing is completely clueless and has no credibility at all.
 
This is something that can be addressed before 2014. So long as everyone is aware of it, I'm sure they will fix it.

Why are you sure? They have been aware of it for since the bill was drafted, and now claim it is simply designed to protect people that will fall through the gap between Medicaid stopping and Medicare starting. You have a lot more faith in the common sense of politicians than I do.
 
That's what happens when you ram through 2000+ pages of legislation at midnight on Christmas eve, without anyone reading it. It's bad law. Period.

This has to be one of the weakest arguments you guys have. The issue has been a core position of the Democratic Party for decades, and they won an election over a year before the bill was passed. It's pretty absurd to claim the bill showed up in the dead of the night.

The core position of the Democratic Party is that you have to pass laws without reading them or fully analyzing the consequences?

Remind me to register as a Republican the next time someone asks.
 
Yeah like that law in OK? To prevent Gay marriage that allowed 6 yr olds to marry?
I am sure that was a Dem pushed law.
 

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