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I'll pay for "my body", and you can pay for "your body", because I don't want to help pay for "your body."You do of course realize that consumers end up paying all business taxes one way or the other, right ? Not just the ones where the gub'ment feels it perfectly ok to tax us for exercising our right to screw our OWN BODIES up, all of them.They should tax soda, smokes and booze. Those things cause all the healthcare problems and...
And? Of course its going to hit consumers, its passed directly onto them.
And you have a right to screw up your body. You just have to pay for it. Its amusing that a "right" to do some things (like screw up your body) means that the "right" should be cheap, but other rights like healthcare, well it doesn't matter if you can't afford.
How very fucked up of you.
How do you justify that a price tag should be attached to exercising rights which impose no externality on the rest of society? Should we be taxed on our right to read trashy novels, engage in potentially dangerous recreational activies, have unprotected sex or any other thing that the gub'ment decides is "bad" for us?You do of course realize that consumers end up paying all business taxes one way or the other, right ? Not just the ones where the gub'ment feels it perfectly ok to tax us for exercising our right to screw our OWN BODIES up, all of them.
And? Of course its going to hit consumers, its passed directly onto them.
And you have a right to screw up your body. You just have to pay for it. Its amusing that a "right" to do some things (like screw up your body) means that the "right" should be cheap, but other rights like healthcare, well it doesn't matter if you can't afford.
I'll pay for "my body", and you can pay for "your body", because I don't want to help pay for "your body."You do of course realize that consumers end up paying all business taxes one way or the other, right ? Not just the ones where the gub'ment feels it perfectly ok to tax us for exercising our right to screw our OWN BODIES up, all of them.
And? Of course its going to hit consumers, its passed directly onto them.
And you have a right to screw up your body. You just have to pay for it. Its amusing that a "right" to do some things (like screw up your body) means that the "right" should be cheap, but other rights like healthcare, well it doesn't matter if you can't afford.
How very fucked up of you.
What a snibbler you are
I'll pay for "my body", and you can pay for "your body", because I don't want to help pay for "your body."And? Of course its going to hit consumers, its passed directly onto them.
And you have a right to screw up your body. You just have to pay for it. Its amusing that a "right" to do some things (like screw up your body) means that the "right" should be cheap, but other rights like healthcare, well it doesn't matter if you can't afford.
How very fucked up of you.
What a snibbler you are
Then while your at it, please pay for your roads, your military, your fire fighters and cops as well.
Whoops...suddenly you want us all to work as a team, don'tcha?
I'll pay for "my body", and you can pay for "your body", because I don't want to help pay for "your body."And? Of course its going to hit consumers, its passed directly onto them.
And you have a right to screw up your body. You just have to pay for it. Its amusing that a "right" to do some things (like screw up your body) means that the "right" should be cheap, but other rights like healthcare, well it doesn't matter if you can't afford.
How very fucked up of you.
What a snibbler you are
Then while your at it, please pay for your roads, your military, your fire fighters and cops as well.
Whoops...suddenly you want us all to work as a team, don'tcha?
How do you justify that a price tag should be attached to exercising rights which impose no externality on the rest of society? Should we be taxed on our right to read trashy novels, engage in potentially dangerous recreational activies, have unprotected sex or any other thing that the gub'ment decides is "bad" for us?And? Of course its going to hit consumers, its passed directly onto them.
And you have a right to screw up your body. You just have to pay for it. Its amusing that a "right" to do some things (like screw up your body) means that the "right" should be cheap, but other rights like healthcare, well it doesn't matter if you can't afford.
Only things that are dangerous/harmful. Somethings have to be taxed, unless you want a pure regressive tax that fucks the poor. So, since you want to tax some things, and not others, it makes sense to tax things that are generally bad for people.
How do you justify that a price tag should be attached to exercising rights which impose no externality on the rest of society? Should we be taxed on our right to read trashy novels, engage in potentially dangerous recreational activies, have unprotected sex or any other thing that the gub'ment decides is "bad" for us?
Only things that are dangerous/harmful. Somethings have to be taxed, unless you want a pure regressive tax that fucks the poor. So, since you want to tax some things, and not others, it makes sense to tax things that are generally bad for people.
Dangerous/harmful to whom? to oneself? who decides this? FYI I'm not asking for "pure regressive tax that fucks the poor" , I'm not into the oppression of the individual to expand the power of the state (that's YOUR gig)....... I'm for doing away with these idiotic, unjust taxes altogether.
I'll pay for "my body", and you can pay for "your body", because I don't want to help pay for "your body."
What a snibbler you are
Then while your at it, please pay for your roads, your military, your fire fighters and cops as well.
Whoops...suddenly you want us all to work as a team, don'tcha?
Oh....the ol' strawman defense, that won't work here sonny. You see, there are good prudent taxes that we do need for infrastructure, that we all use. I'm not against paying taxes, it's just all the bullshit that is being shoved down yours and my thoats that I'm against. Syn taxing is a start, but it won't just stop there...like you might believe. Then there is the VAT tax that will be following, and if Barry has his way, we will have the CAP & TRADE that will be shoved on us, oh yeah, let's not forget the next stimulus bill that might be in the pipeline for this fall. You see that's not the team I'm on board with. Of course, a socialist wouldn't have any issues with it.
But aren't taxes on soda, cigarettes and alcohol regressive as they are consumed more by the poor?
I'll pay for "my body", and you can pay for "your body", because I don't want to help pay for "your body."
What a snibbler you are
Then while your at it, please pay for your roads, your military, your fire fighters and cops as well.
Whoops...suddenly you want us all to work as a team, don'tcha?
tell me what I eat, drink or smoke has to do with roads, military, firefighters and cops.
How do you justify that a price tag should be attached to exercising rights which impose no externality on the rest of society? Should we be taxed on our right to read trashy novels, engage in potentially dangerous recreational activies, have unprotected sex or any other thing that the gub'ment decides is "bad" for us?
Only things that are dangerous/harmful. Somethings have to be taxed, unless you want a pure regressive tax that fucks the poor. So, since you want to tax some things, and not others, it makes sense to tax things that are generally bad for people.
Dangerous/harmful to whom? to oneself?
who decides this? FYI I'm not asking for "pure regressive tax that fucks the poor" , I'm not into the oppression of the individual to expand the power of the state (that's YOUR gig)....... I'm for doing away with these idiotic, unjust taxes altogether.
Then while your at it, please pay for your roads, your military, your fire fighters and cops as well.
Whoops...suddenly you want us all to work as a team, don'tcha?
tell me what I eat, drink or smoke has to do with roads, military, firefighters and cops.
It doesn't. He referenced healthcare. Next?
Then while your at it, please pay for your roads, your military, your fire fighters and cops as well.
Whoops...suddenly you want us all to work as a team, don'tcha?
Oh....the ol' strawman defense, that won't work here sonny. You see, there are good prudent taxes that we do need for infrastructure, that we all use. I'm not against paying taxes, it's just all the bullshit that is being shoved down yours and my thoats that I'm against. Syn taxing is a start, but it won't just stop there...like you might believe. Then there is the VAT tax that will be following, and if Barry has his way, we will have the CAP & TRADE that will be shoved on us, oh yeah, let's not forget the next stimulus bill that might be in the pipeline for this fall. You see that's not the team I'm on board with. Of course, a socialist wouldn't have any issues with it.
I don't use roads, actually, I live in a city and don't drive. So why am I paying for them again?
And no, nothing I said was a strawman. There is no difference between healthcare and roads and firefighters and police, etc, etc.
Your not against taxes...just any new taxes
By the way...a public plan will save money.[/QUOTE]
To a socialist there would be no difference, but to capitalist there is a difference. We don't have a private sector for roads, military, firefighters, and police...but we do with healthcare coverage, in fact we have a menu of types of coverage.
The public plan would cost me more....because I would be paying for my coverage, and helping pay for your coverage...no savings there. The public plan would eventually push out my private coverage through mandates, and then I would not have choice. To me, that would be one of my liberties lost through your socialism.
So do you walk everywhere you go, or do you take some form of public transportation highlighted by the Dept. of Transportation?
Only things that are dangerous/harmful. Somethings have to be taxed, unless you want a pure regressive tax that fucks the poor. So, since you want to tax some things, and not others, it makes sense to tax things that are generally bad for people.
Dangerous/harmful to whom? to oneself?
Yes.
who decides this? FYI I'm not asking for "pure regressive tax that fucks the poor" , I'm not into the oppression of the individual to expand the power of the state (that's YOUR gig)....... I'm for doing away with these idiotic, unjust taxes altogether.
Umm, scientists? Its not really disputable that soda, alcohol, cigs, etc are things that are bad for people.
You need to tax something, so what tax would you propose?
You do of course realize that consumers end up paying all business taxes one way or the other, right ? Not just the ones where the gub'ment feels it perfectly ok to tax us for exercising our right to screw our OWN BODIES up, all of them.They should tax soda, smokes and booze. Those things cause all the healthcare problems and...
Dangerous/harmful to whom? to oneself?
Yes.
who decides this? FYI I'm not asking for "pure regressive tax that fucks the poor" , I'm not into the oppression of the individual to expand the power of the state (that's YOUR gig)....... I'm for doing away with these idiotic, unjust taxes altogether.
Umm, scientists? Its not really disputable that soda, alcohol, cigs, etc are things that are bad for people.
You need to tax something, so what tax would you propose?
the government doesn't "need" to tax anything. it "needs" to spend less
You do of course realize that consumers end up paying all business taxes one way or the other, right ? Not just the ones where the gub'ment feels it perfectly ok to tax us for exercising our right to screw our OWN BODIES up, all of them.They should tax soda, smokes and booze. Those things cause all the healthcare problems and...
And? Of course its going to hit consumers, its passed directly onto them.
And you have a right to screw up your body. You just have to pay for it. Its amusing that a "right" to do some things (like screw up your body) means that the "right" should be cheap, but other rights like healthcare, well it doesn't matter if you can't afford.
How very fucked up of you.
You do of course realize that consumers end up paying all business taxes one way or the other, right ? Not just the ones where the gub'ment feels it perfectly ok to tax us for exercising our right to screw our OWN BODIES up, all of them.
And? Of course its going to hit consumers, its passed directly onto them.
And you have a right to screw up your body. You just have to pay for it. Its amusing that a "right" to do some things (like screw up your body) means that the "right" should be cheap, but other rights like healthcare, well it doesn't matter if you can't afford.
How very fucked up of you.
So how are we going to tax skateboarding, basketball, rock-climbing, ATV-ing, cliff diving, spelunking, scuba diving, swimming, mountain biking, and the other 100,000 ways one can end up in the hospital.
Colorodoman is going to pissed when he finds out his carabiner are going to be $500 apiece.
Only things that are dangerous/harmful. Somethings have to be taxed, unless you want a pure regressive tax that fucks the poor. So, since you want to tax some things, and not others, it makes sense to tax things that are generally bad for people.
Dangerous/harmful to whom? to oneself?
Yes.
who decides this? FYI I'm not asking for "pure regressive tax that fucks the poor" , I'm not into the oppression of the individual to expand the power of the state (that's YOUR gig)....... I'm for doing away with these idiotic, unjust taxes altogether.
Umm, scientists? Its not really disputable that soda, alcohol, cigs, etc are things that are bad for people.
You need to tax something, so what tax would you propose?
And? Of course its going to hit consumers, its passed directly onto them.
And you have a right to screw up your body. You just have to pay for it. Its amusing that a "right" to do some things (like screw up your body) means that the "right" should be cheap, but other rights like healthcare, well it doesn't matter if you can't afford.
How very fucked up of you.
So how are we going to tax skateboarding, basketball, rock-climbing, ATV-ing, cliff diving, spelunking, scuba diving, swimming, mountain biking, and the other 100,000 ways one can end up in the hospital.
Colorodoman is going to pissed when he finds out his carabiner are going to be $500 apiece.
Do I hear a recreational tax coming down the pipeline?
