Media "fact checkers" lie to try to save Obama.

[Leweman]

Obama said this in 2008.

“(But) I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this (General Motors) plant will be here for another hundred years,” said Barack Obama in February, 2008, promising UAW workers at GM’s giant, troubled plant in Janesville, Wisc., that he would watch over them if elected president. “When I talk about real change that will make a real difference in the lives of working families, it’s not just the poll-tested rhetoric of a political campaign. It’s the cause of my life. And you can be sure that it will be the cause of my presidency from the very first day I take office.”

Obama lied about Janesville GM auto plant, not Ryan | Twitchy

The plant closed a whole month before Obama took office. Why didn't Obama save it later? Was it too far gone? Did his statement there some how not apply anymore because it was closed down for a whole entire month before he took office? How is anything that Ryan said in his speech about this untrue again? Hmmmm.

 

[BlindBoo]

Apparently the government under President George Bush was not there to support them huh? In reality it was because they made gas guzzling SUV at that plant. GM management is to blame. Not Bush, not Obama. But fact of the matter is the plant closed before he took office.

 

[Leweman]

Apparently the government under President George Bush was not there to support them huh? In reality it was because they made gas guzzling SUV at that plant. GM management is to blame. Not Bush, not Obama. But fact of the matter is the plant closed before he took office.

When the plant closed had nothing to do with what Obama said. Also, the plant closed in April of 2009. Was Obama in office yet?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Apparently the government under President George Bush was not there to support them huh? In reality it was because they made gas guzzling SUV at that plant. GM management is to blame. Not Bush, not Obama. But fact of the matter is the plant closed before he took office.

It was not the Governments job to get involved with bailing out the private sector unions.

 

[Old Rocks]

Apparently the government under President George Bush was not there to support them huh? In reality it was because they made gas guzzling SUV at that plant. GM management is to blame. Not Bush, not Obama. But fact of the matter is the plant closed before he took office.

When the plant closed had nothing to do with what Obama said. Also, the plant closed in April of 2009. Was Obama in office yet?

Now Ryan lied about the time line of the closure, just as you have. The majority of the plant was closed during Bush's term. They shut down the last remaining operations in April of 2009, laying off the final 57 people. 57 people hardly represent a plant closing. That is just the final stage of mothballing a plant. The plant, as far as an economy impacting payroll, was closed in 2008.

Anybody that has worked in industry realizes this, and realizes that Ryan was playing fast and loose with the truth. Of course, for many of the GOP posters here, anything beyond a McD's job is outside of their ken.

 

[BlindBoo]

Apparently the government under President George Bush was not there to support them huh? In reality it was because they made gas guzzling SUV at that plant. GM management is to blame. Not Bush, not Obama. But fact of the matter is the plant closed before he took office.

It was not the Governments job to get involved with bailing out the private sector unions.

Do you know how many non GM jobs were saved with the bail-out?

 

[buckeye45_73]

Apparently the government under President George Bush was not there to support them huh? In reality it was because they made gas guzzling SUV at that plant. GM management is to blame. Not Bush, not Obama. But fact of the matter is the plant closed before he took office.

Actually people like SUVs alot more than volts...and if you drill for gas, while you come up with a new energy source, it's a non issue, but liberals are unbelievably stupid and lie and distort.

 

[EriktheRed]

Media "fact checkers" lie to try to save Obama.

Wow, the wingnut victimization syndrome has kicked back into high gear ever since the Zombie-eyed Granny-starver started getting called out on his lies by more than just us dirty liberal hippies.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Media "fact checkers" lie to try to save Obama.

Wow, the wingnut victimization syndrome has kicked back into high gear ever since the Zombie-eyed Granny-starver started getting called out on his lies by more than just us dirty liberal hippies.

You're going to have to change your signature

http://www.usmessageboard.com/5901359-post1.html

 

[RDD_1210]

Obama said this in 2008.

“(But) I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this (General Motors) plant will be here for another hundred years,” said Barack Obama in February, 2008, promising UAW workers at GM’s giant, troubled plant in Janesville, Wisc., that he would watch over them if elected president. “When I talk about real change that will make a real difference in the lives of working families, it’s not just the poll-tested rhetoric of a political campaign. It’s the cause of my life. And you can be sure that it will be the cause of my presidency from the very first day I take office.”

Obama lied about Janesville GM auto plant, not Ryan | Twitchy

The plant closed a whole month before Obama took office. Why didn't Obama save it later? Was it too far gone? Did his statement there some how not apply anymore because it was closed down for a whole entire month before he took office? How is anything that Ryan said in his speech about this untrue again? Hmmmm.

We're all thinking it, so I'm just going to go ahead and say it. It's people EXACTLY like you that are the reason our country is in such a bad place. You and people like you are the issue with this country. Be proud of yourself.

 

[EriktheRed]

Media "fact checkers" lie to try to save Obama.

Wow, the wingnut victimization syndrome has kicked back into high gear ever since the Zombie-eyed Granny-starver started getting called out on his lies by more than just us dirty liberal hippies.

You're going to have to change your signature

http://www.usmessageboard.com/5901359-post1.html

No, I think it can stay like this for a while longer, thank you. Nice job at deflection there, though.

 

[Leweman]

Apparently the government under President George Bush was not there to support them huh? In reality it was because they made gas guzzling SUV at that plant. GM management is to blame. Not Bush, not Obama. But fact of the matter is the plant closed before he took office.

It was not the Governments job to get involved with bailing out the private sector unions.

Do you know how many non GM jobs were saved with the bail-out?

zero

 

[EriktheRed]

Apparently the government under President George Bush was not there to support them huh? In reality it was because they made gas guzzling SUV at that plant. GM management is to blame. Not Bush, not Obama. But fact of the matter is the plant closed before he took office.

Actually people like SUVs alot more than volts...and if you drill for gas, while you come up with a new energy source, it's a non issue, but liberals are unbelievably stupid and lie and distort.

What does that have to do with the fact the plant was pretty much closed before the Prez ever took office?

 

[EriktheRed]

It was not the Governments job to get involved with bailing out the private sector unions.

Do you know how many non GM jobs were saved with the bail-out?

zero

Wow...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Wow, the wingnut victimization syndrome has kicked back into high gear ever since the Zombie-eyed Granny-starver started getting called out on his lies by more than just us dirty liberal hippies.

You're going to have to change your signature

http://www.usmessageboard.com/5901359-post1.html

No, I think it can stay like this for a while longer, thank you. Nice job at deflection there, though.

Even obamas fact checkers calls your signature a lie.

 

[EriktheRed]

You're going to have to change your signature

http://www.usmessageboard.com/5901359-post1.html

No, I think it can stay like this for a while longer, thank you. Nice job at deflection there, though.

Even obamas fact checkers calls your signature a lie.

More deflection. Good job.

 

[007]

Obama said this in 2008.

“(But) I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this (General Motors) plant will be here for another hundred years,” said Barack Obama in February, 2008, promising UAW workers at GM’s giant, troubled plant in Janesville, Wisc., that he would watch over them if elected president. “When I talk about real change that will make a real difference in the lives of working families, it’s not just the poll-tested rhetoric of a political campaign. It’s the cause of my life. And you can be sure that it will be the cause of my presidency from the very first day I take office.”

Obama lied about Janesville GM auto plant, not Ryan | Twitchy

The plant closed a whole month before Obama took office. Why didn't Obama save it later? Was it too far gone? Did his statement there some how not apply anymore because it was closed down for a whole entire month before he took office? How is anything that Ryan said in his speech about this untrue again? Hmmmm.

The left has got NOTHING left. Their god and king obama has been a complete FAILURE from DAY ONE, and he and the entire progressive, liberal, leftist, socialist democrat party have NOTHING GOOD to crow about. So what do they do, why attempt to demonize the conservatives, because that's what Saul Alinsky and obama have taught them to do, so they LIE...

Fact-Checkers Wrong on Ryan GM Claim

 

[plant]

Not trying to save Obama , but trying to save the American people from letting bush 3 in the whithouse

 

[Leweman]

Apparently the government under President George Bush was not there to support them huh? In reality it was because they made gas guzzling SUV at that plant. GM management is to blame. Not Bush, not Obama. But fact of the matter is the plant closed before he took office.

When the plant closed had nothing to do with what Obama said. Also, the plant closed in April of 2009. Was Obama in office yet?

Now Ryan lied about the time line of the closure, just as you have. The majority of the plant was closed during Bush's term. They shut down the last remaining operations in April of 2009, laying off the final 57 people. 57 people hardly represent a plant closing. That is just the final stage of mothballing a plant. The plant, as far as an economy impacting payroll, was closed in 2008.

Anybody that has worked in industry realizes this, and realizes that Ryan was playing fast and loose with the truth. Of course, for many of the GOP posters here, anything beyond a McD's job is outside of their ken.

So you pointing out the accuracy of what I said is me lying. Wow ... just wow. Anything to defend your boy Obama. You just admit it wasn't even shut down yet when Obama took office. Even if it had been shut down before then what does that have to do with Obama giving up on them? He couldn't get it back up and running after it being shut down four months after he took office? Why did he go back on his beliefs which he stated to those workers in 2008? Ryan told the truth.

 

[Avatar4321]

Apparently mid 2009 was during the Bush administration now