Meaning To Or Not, Turkey Has Kissed EU Entry Goodbye

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    http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=440106

    It's in I believe Danish, but could be Turkish, is that a language? Anywho, seems that someone from Turkey is demanding a denunciation of the cartoons:
    Say bye bye Turkey, which really is a shame.
     
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    The source is from Denmark --> www. ////////.dk

    Yes Turkish is a language this should be even known in America.
    Oh, Kathianne you have to learn a bit more to be provocative in this issues.

    Now, slowly the facts:

    Austria is current EU-Term-president.
    Austria as its above described function, officially asked Turkey for help in this cartoon-crisis.

    In this context, the next EU foreign minister's meeting in Salzburg / Austria from 10-11 March wil be held with this agenda. Here Turkey's foreign minister will hold the opening speech to this issue and will tell EU what steps have to be taken to resolve problems between Muslim World and EU.

    Also Turkey together with Spain forms the Alliance of civilizations which is backed by Kofi Annan for inter-cultural dialogue.

    The same time Turkey is current presidemcy of OIC.

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    Now lets get deeper:

    Danish newspaper called: "Berlingske Tidende daily" welcomed this mediation.

    Silvio Berlusconi spoke to Arab world live on Al-Jazeera with this words:
    Angela Merkel wrote in German Magazine Stern" this words:

    Kathianne, by your thinking: the shame Turkey can say byebyebye to EU. But the truth is the cartoon crisis has accelarated Turkey's integration process into EU.


    All of this will result in changeing laws in EU countries. As Anti-semitism is changed by Islamophobia. And There are laws protecting Jews but not Muslims in EU, there will come laws in EU which protect Muslims in EU.
    European Union is multi-polar. What Denmark alone thinks is one side, Denmarks as a single part can not define EU policy.
    Turkey has overworked LAws in some big EU countries with high turkish population to put them under protection like the jews.
    And from what as i read, there is a hgh chance that these law-proposals will be accepted by EU members.

    A indicator for this is the latest German court decision, where one man has been put for 1 year in prison, as he produced Toilet-paper with Koran on it and then marketing it.

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    Anyway, thank you for your nice words.... appreciate openess.
     
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    No. Europeans don't won't your Islamic thought control. Forget it. Turkey's out.
     
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    This is a statement not relied on facts. Austrian EU terms presidency said that accession talks with Turkey open within Austrian term president.

    The EU Wants Turkey to mediate the cartoon-crisis.
    The turkish Foreign minister should come with ideas how the arab world and the westernworld can bind together. EU´s Foreignpolitical Chief means that denmark has a responsibility to try and improve the situation and solve it.


    The Austrian chairmanship has asked the Turkish Foreignminister Abdullah Gül about presenting a turkish offer, idea, solution to how the conflict between the Muslim world and European Union can be solved on longer terms.

    The Turkish FM has been invited to lead a discussion on the subject in a FM-meeting 11. March, says the Austrian spokesman NIKOLA Johannes...
     
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    So what. You'll still never be part of the EU. Islam is not compatible with modernity.
     
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    The capitalicy wants Turkey joining EU, so Turkey's way is open.
    This has nothing to do with cartoon crisis as Angela Merkel said.
     
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    Don't you mean capitalarcy?
     
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    Thanks for your take Canavar. What do you think is the overall foreign policy goal of Ankara's Islamic government? It seems to be in considerable flux over the cartoon issue, Iraq, Iran and other matters.
     
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    Yes, and hangings would proceed much more smoothly if the condemned would just pretend they weren't choking.
     
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    Maybe so, but as of late, making demands does not ensure proper mediation.

    Berlusconi is a crook.


    Does this person giving their opinion give any examples? Seriously.



    How? Again, making demands is not mediating.

    Muslims are considered minorities. As you well know, accession criteria demands that there be 'stability of institutions guaranteeing democracy, the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities' Link. There will be no EU laws changed, it will be the members who must change, prior to membership.

    What are the few things that typically define democracy? Not state censored speach, demanded from another state. It's alright to have an opinion on the matter, but public demands do not seem like proper mediation protocol. How is the mediation going?


    Like I said, these protections are already a requirment, how they are played out within their societies is up to them as long as it meets the EU criteria.
     

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