Me: Communism has killed 94 million people...

[JQPublic1]

1. Your No True Scotsman Fallacy is noted, laughed at and dismissed.

I would expect no less from a kool-aid drinking puppet like you. But I dare not laugh at or dismiss the RW white populist threat your ilk presents to all of mankind. For me to do so would be foolhardy indeed. History has shown that White capitalists and White socialists have never lost sight of their Whiteness.. Neither idelogy has been a friend to the global majority loosely known as people of color...including the Jews. Muder and exploitation has almost always been
the rule when whiteness goes abroad seeking whom it shall devour.

. Your attempt to equate Imperialism and Capitalism and Communism

ATTEMPT?The deed is done...not by my hand but by the emissaries of whiteness. Putin and Trump understand that... And in your heart...you do too.

2b. So I take it that you are also, not ready to give up on communism either?

I am an idealists...a believer in equality for all American citizens. I believe in having universal health care and a decent standard of living for every American. Ideally I want peace and happiness for all...no matter the cost. Does using the word " all" make me a socialist? If so what would I be if i used the word "I" or "for myself
Instead..?

 

[Syriusly]

A major tactic of Communists is to make the claim that every actual real-life Communist country wasn't real Communism.

The problem with that argument is that it begs the question, "So we should let the Communists take over our country, and hope, even though it's never happened before in the history of Communism, that we will finally have REAL Communism?"

I agree China and Vietnam are communist countries.

Tell us about the horrors of modern China and Vietnam- compared to say- capitalist Russia?

 

[baileyn45]

1. Your No True Scotsman Fallacy is noted, laughed at and dismissed.

I would expect no less from a kool-aid drinking puppet like you. But I dare not laugh at or dismiss the RW white populist threat your ilk presents to all of mankind. For me to do so would be foolhardy indeed. History has shown that White capitalists and White socialists have never lost sight of their Whiteness.. Neither idelogy has been a friend to the global majority loosely known as people of color...including the Jews. Muder and exploitation has almost always been
the rule when whiteness goes abroad seeking whom it shall devour.

. Your attempt to equate Imperialism and Capitalism and Communism

ATTEMPT?The deed is done...not by my hand but by the emissaries of whiteness. Putin and Trump understand that... And in your heart...you do too.

2b. So I take it that you are also, not ready to give up on communism either?

I am an idealists...a believer in equality for all American citizens. I believe in having universal health care and a decent standard of living for every American. Ideally I want peace and happiness for all...no matter the cost. Does using the word " all" make me a socialist? If so what would I be if i used the word "I" or "for myself
Instead..?

No, what makes you a socialist is "no matter what the cost". So tell me where do I go, the gulag to be worked to death, left on a farm growing food for you and left to starve to death or just outright slaughtered?

 

[westwall]

I hate communism;...

So you think Athens greece, Egypt, Rome, Ming China, and on down the list that provided public services are communist societies. See how fucking stupid you're comparing government providing services to the people to communism really is??? Get it???

I want more political parties...Communism normally has only one.
I want more private sector jobs and businesses. Think this is a communist thing??? Read some fucking political science before responding.

I think what Mao, stalin and all other communist pieces of shit did in the past are evil and should be stomped out from this planet. They shit on the little guy every chance they had even through they used the little guy as useful idiots.

What "services" do you think those ancient societies "provided"?

 

[JimBowie1958]

A major tactic of Communists is to make the claim that every actual real-life Communist country wasn't real Communism.

The problem with that argument is that it begs the question, "So we should let the Communists take over our country, and hope, even though it's never happened before in the history of Communism, that we will finally have REAL Communism?"

The only real difference between Fascism and Communism is that no fascist say 'This time its gonna work right!'

 

[JimBowie1958]

Stalin murdered 65 million peace time civilians - as you well know. You Stalinists have LOTS more of that in store for America, starting with the Christians.....
The democratic party, Stalin approved in every way.....

That is why Stalin has not had the evil super-genius propaganda that Hitler got despite being a far more evil person than Hitler was.

Democrats sympathize with Stalin and put posters up about him in their homes.

 

[Syriusly]

Communist:friend: That wasn't REAL Communism, try again!

You won't get me to defend the atrocities of the Communism of Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin or Mao.

So tell me about the atrocities of modern Communist Vietnam?

Tell me how many millions are dying in modern Communist China?

I am no fan of Communism- I think it is a failed economic theory- but it has also become a boogeyman for idiots on the Right.

Death rate in China = 252/10,000
Death rate in Viet Nam = 584/10,000
Death rate in US = 82/10,000

And?
Death rate? Death rate per what?
Vietnam
Death rate 6.81 deaths/1000 population (2015 est.)
Life expectancy 75.6 years (2016 est.)

Neighboring non-Communist Thailand?
Death rate: 7.9 deaths/1,000 population (2016 est.)

Non-Communist Russia?
Death rate13.0 deaths/1,000 population (2015)

Non-Communist United States
Death rate: 8.2 deaths per 1,000 population.

Feel free to compare China and Russia- or Thailand and Vietnam for somewhat comparable economies.

 

[Syriusly]

read the words, "and followers of the ideology have killed tens of millions"

Christians?

Look dummy just because someone is a commy or anarchist or white supremacist doesn't mean they support killing people.

This "killed millions!!!" rhetoric is crazy.

Stalin killed a lot of people because he was a ruthless autocrat in a long line of ruthless Russian autocrats going way back to Czars, not specifically because he was a communist.

Chinese are commies, cubans are commies though you don't see that there.

Especially as the examples of communism going really bad, seem to be very numerous compared to those times it does NOT.

Well lets see- countries that actually call themselves Communist now:
North Korea- yeah- really bad.
China- second largest economy in the world.
Vietnam- one of the fastest growing economies in the world.
Cuba- mediocre economy

The only one of these that are comparable to the Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot is NK.

If Communism always means absolute dictatorships that kill their citizens- why isn't that happening in China and Vietnam?

 

[Pogo]

What's important is The Truth. PERIOD.

"Followers of the ideology X did Q, therefore X leads to Q".. My ass. This is the old "marijuana leads to heroin" bullshit.

Hitler liked dogs too. Therefore anyone who likes dogs is a Nazi. MY ASS.

I agree.

The Oceans of Murdered People is the Truth about Communism.

Semantic games do not change nor hide, nor soften that.

Then stop fucking playing them.
That's exactly why I corrected the bullshit semantics in the OP in the first place.

To verify that we are on the same page,


we agree that Communism is a terrible idea that have led to the deaths of tens of millions and the oppression of billions and should never be considered as a viable solution for anything?

Nope. We agree on none of that. As in zero.

You can go back to my first post to see why that is.

Again, here's a photo of the only communism I know about directly ----

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Notice everybody's working. That's typical. Whatever they produce is communally-owned. At the end of the day they'll all eat in a common dining hall and retire to their communal houses where nobody owns personal property beyond their own clothes. Everything is done as a collective.

And again, these people have literally never killed anybody. Never wore any country's uniform, never fought in anybody's war. Ever. In five hundred years.

What's the latter got to do with the former? NOTHING. Now do the math.

Again --- what's the point of discussing a term if you're going to just ignore its definition?

Got it. You're not convinced that communism is a bad idea.

Thank's for being honest.

You're welcom'e. It's what I do here. That's why I showed up to put out this flaming bucket of shit that was the logical train wreck of the OP. I have no doubt it had to do with some combination of mental chemicals.

 

[2aguy]

...because THIS TIME, it will be different. It will work THIS TIME.

Look.....they only murdered 94 million people.......the next 94 million they murder will finally get the job done...

 

[2aguy]

Communist:friend: That wasn't REAL Communism, try again!

You won't get me to defend the atrocities of the Communism of Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin or Mao.

So tell me about the atrocities of modern Communist Vietnam?

Tell me how many millions are dying in modern Communist China?

I am no fan of Communism- I think it is a failed economic theory- but it has also become a boogeyman for idiots on the Right.

So tell me about the atrocities of modern Communist Vietnam?

Tell me how many millions are dying in modern Communist China?

Yeah....it was the 70 million or more they had to murder before they realized that communism was stupid....that is the problem....and now you still have morons walking around wearing che and mao t-shirts.....the communists are out there raising the next generation of killers....they just need time for people to forget what they already have done...

 

[2aguy]

read the words, "and followers of the ideology have killed tens of millions"

Christians?

Look dummy just because someone is a commy or anarchist or white supremacist doesn't mean they support killing people.

This "killed millions!!!" rhetoric is crazy.

Stalin killed a lot of people because he was a ruthless autocrat in a long line of ruthless Russian autocrats going way back to Czars, not specifically because he was a communist.

Chinese are commies, cubans are commies though you don't see that there.

Especially as the examples of communism going really bad, seem to be very numerous compared to those times it does NOT.

Well lets see- countries that actually call themselves Communist now:
North Korea- yeah- really bad.
China- second largest economy in the world.
Vietnam- one of the fastest growing economies in the world.
Cuba- mediocre economy

The only one of these that are comparable to the Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot is NK.

If Communism always means absolute dictatorships that kill their citizens- why isn't that happening in China and Vietnam?

China and Vietnam abandoned the communist economic model.....it only took them 70 million murdered innocent men, women and children to realize it didn't work.....

Normal people? They knew communism was stupid......unlike you guys.

 

[Syriusly]

read the words, "and followers of the ideology have killed tens of millions"

Christians?

Look dummy just because someone is a commy or anarchist or white supremacist doesn't mean they support killing people.

This "killed millions!!!" rhetoric is crazy.

Stalin killed a lot of people because he was a ruthless autocrat in a long line of ruthless Russian autocrats going way back to Czars, not specifically because he was a communist.

Chinese are commies, cubans are commies though you don't see that there.

Especially as the examples of communism going really bad, seem to be very numerous compared to those times it does NOT.

Well lets see- countries that actually call themselves Communist now:
North Korea- yeah- really bad.
China- second largest economy in the world.
Vietnam- one of the fastest growing economies in the world.
Cuba- mediocre economy

The only one of these that are comparable to the Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot is NK.

If Communism always means absolute dictatorships that kill their citizens- why isn't that happening in China and Vietnam?

China and Vietnam abandoned the communist economic model.....it only took them 70 million murdered innocent men, women and children to realize it didn't work.....

Normal people? They knew communism was stupid......unlike you guys.

LOL- sorry chump- both countries are still communist countries. Both still controlled by the Communist Parties. Both still spewing the rhetoric of Communism.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I don't see any Stalinists here. I see a lot of people giving cover to a former Stalinist who now happens to be the President of Russia.

If you want to see a Stalinist, just look in a mirror.

You Marxist democrats are in open treason, let's call it what it is, a civil war; which you have started for the express purpose of ending the United States Constitution and establishing a Bolshevik dictatorship.

We normals are woke, you are being resisted. You think TRUMP is the impediment to your evil plot?

Trump is just a symbol, America has had enough of your shit.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Me: Communism has killed 94 million people...

"Communism" is an economic system. It doesn't "kill" anybody.

Armies kill people. Guns and bombs and rockets kill people. Murderers kill people. Economic systems preeeeety much provide a framework for how wealth moves around. That's all they do.

Blackrook always goes for drama over fact or substance.

Blackrook -- Since you put this in Politics instead of History, it would seem you believe Communism poses some sort of modern day threat. Please post modern day examples of why you believe communism is going to kill.

ANTIFA is a modern-day example of Communism in action. We shall see how far their "revolution" gets when they mobilize in November. It's good they've telegraphed their intentions. If it was legal to kill Communists, I would do it without hesitation. Because I know if the Communists ever take over, I'll be one of the first on their kill list.

Good lord, you need to go take a fucking chill pill before go start acting on your little killing phantasies.

Don't you worry, I'll keep the Red Manace at bay

The democratic party is modeled after the ideals of Josef Stalin. The big difference is that the normals are woke, the Bolshevik revolution "treason" currently underway by the democrats is being resisted. Trump was put in office to stop the democrats in their tracks as they moved to put a final end to the Constitution. One more traitor on the SCOTUS would have ended the nation. Had Hillary assumed power, this would already be a nation where the Bill of Rights was something out of the past, with the little Goebbels at CNN and the Bezos hate blog (WaPo) erasing any trace that a nation predicated on liberty had ever existed. Even without the judicial power to outlaw speech, the Stalinist thugs of the democratic party are brazenly eradicating the history of the nation.

Do you honestly think that we normals give a fuck about your snarky bullshit? That we will cower before the smirking leftists who are waging this civil war to end the nation?

Yamamoto grasped what Japan had done at Pearl Harbor; you democrats don't seem to have that level of self-awareness. We are awake and Donald Trump is just a taste of what is coming.

 

[Uncensored2008]

1. Your No True Scotsman Fallacy is noted, laughed at and dismissed.

I would expect no less from a kool-aid drinking puppet like you. But I dare not laugh at or dismiss the RW white populist threat your ilk presents to all of mankind. For me to do so would be foolhardy indeed. History has shown that White capitalists and White socialists have never lost sight of their Whiteness.. Neither idelogy has been a friend to the global majority loosely known as people of color...including the Jews. Muder and exploitation has almost always been
the rule when whiteness goes abroad seeking whom it shall devour.

. Your attempt to equate Imperialism and Capitalism and Communism

ATTEMPT?The deed is done...not by my hand but by the emissaries of whiteness. Putin and Trump understand that... And in your heart...you do too.

2b. So I take it that you are also, not ready to give up on communism either?

I am an idealists...a believer in equality for all American citizens. I believe in having universal health care and a decent standard of living for every American. Ideally I want peace and happiness for all...no matter the cost. Does using the word " all" make me a socialist? If so what would I be if i used the word "I" or "for myself
Instead..?

You are a Communist, a Stalinist, a traitor.

Evil in not an ideal, hence you cannot be an idealist. A terrorist perhaps...

 

[JQPublic1]

1. Your No True Scotsman Fallacy is noted, laughed at and dismissed.

I would expect no less from a kool-aid drinking puppet like you. But I dare not laugh at or dismiss the RW white populist threat your ilk presents to all of mankind. For me to do so would be foolhardy indeed. History has shown that White capitalists and White socialists have never lost sight of their Whiteness.. Neither idelogy has been a friend to the global majority loosely known as people of color...including the Jews. Muder and exploitation has almost always been
the rule when whiteness goes abroad seeking whom it shall devour.

. Your attempt to equate Imperialism and Capitalism and Communism

ATTEMPT?The deed is done...not by my hand but by the emissaries of whiteness. Putin and Trump understand that... And in your heart...you do too.

2b. So I take it that you are also, not ready to give up on communism either?

I am an idealists...a believer in equality for all American citizens. I believe in having universal health care and a decent standard of living for every American. Ideally I want peace and happiness for all...no matter the cost. Does using the word " all" make me a socialist? If so what would I be if i used the word "I" or "for myself
Instead..?

You are a Communist, a Stalinist, a traitor.

Evil in not an ideal, hence you cannot be an idealist. A terrorist perhaps...

Darn! I thougt I was a Christian saying and doing the things Jesus would do. But I guess you could confuse real Christian behavior with Communism...YOU evil money worshipping konservatives have even labeled the Pope a Communist. Satan Is your master.

 

[cnm]

What "services" do you think those ancient societies "provided"?

They say in Ghengis Khan's reign a virgin with a bag of gold could walk untrammelled from end to end of his territory.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Invested in infrastructure. Athens we know certainly did, Egypt it was mostly the government that overseen the construction of the pyramids and this was also true in the Inca, Maya empires and Rome built roads. .
China invested greatly into exploration and science
etc

Baghdad Iraq as a central to maintaining scientific records in the 7th and 8th centuries during the muslim "empire".

 

[Correll]

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"a total of 205,000,000 killed directly or indirectly because of capitalism." - Source

YOur link seems to be an attack on a source of inflated numbers.