McCain: Much Worst Than Bush.

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    “Integrity” is vital to any commander and chief presiding over this nation, and Mc Cain would be clearly much worst than George Bush. McCain served in the military, but take notice of how he betrays the American troops.

    The lost of all humanity and compassion for the well being of others is apparently part of his so-called hero status. Apparently McCain believes he suffered in service to this Country, and those fighting in Iraq have not suffered enough.

    This decision not to support an adequate G.I. Bill for the troops shows he’s no hero at all; this is a clear message showing us the man behind the curtain. All the smoke and mirrors does not help either. This issueless candidate is now trying to hijack the “Change agenda”. The say anything to get elected approach is weak, reckless, and condescending. The Gas holiday gimmick also shows McCain’s whole campaign is centered around “deception”.
     
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    That's just inflammatory.

    McCain is a damn sight better than Bush.

    Obama is better yet.
     
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    Your command of the English language is overwhelming, to say the least. Seems you're being a bit selective with your accusations, are you not?

    Did McCain not support the Gi Bill? Or did he not support the pork attached to the legislation? YOUR smoke and mirrors isn't working very well.

    How can McCain hijack an agenda that in and of itself is smoke and mirrors? You're just another pot calling the kettle black.
     
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    I disagree. McCain and Obama are BOTH tools, but Obama is the bigger tool.
     
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    Are you some sort of English professor or do you want to talk about the facts? No; John McCain did not support the 21st Century G.I. Bill. He also voted against increased health care funding for the V.A. throughout 2003, 4, 5, and 2006. The G.I. Bill had 53 sponsors 10 were republicans, and when the vote came to the senate floor McCain was at a fundraiser in California.

    Maybe it’s true that McCain and Bush don’t want to make things too comfortable for the solders. Maybe it’s true they want to leave the solders few options so they have to reenlist. I think I see the logic…dead solders cannot benefit from any G.I. Bill.

    Again it’s weak, reckless, and condescending for the Issueless McCain to talk about “change”. If you want to talk about pork take a look at what the avoidable wars are costing this nation. You want to call the figures smoke and mirrors also?

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    "The Cost of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Other Global War on Terror Operations Since 9/11
    July 14, 2008

    Summary:
    With enactment of the FY2008 Supplemental and FY2009 Bridge Fund(H.R. 2642/P.L. 110-252) on June 30, 2008, Congress has approved a total of about $859 billion for military operations, base security, reconstruction, foreign aid, embassy costs, and veterans' health care for the three operations initiated since the 9/11 attacks: Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) Afghanistan and other counter terror operations; Operation Noble Eagle (ONE), providing enhanced security at military bases; and Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF).

    This $859 billion total covers all war-related appropriations from FY2001 through part of FY2009 in supplementals, regular appropriations, and continuing resolutions. Of that total, CRS estimates that Iraq will receive about $653 billion (76%), OEF about $172 billion (20%), and enhanced base security about $28 billion (3%), with about $5 billion that CRS cannot allocate (1%). About 94% of the funds are for DOD, 6% for foreign aid programs and embassy operations, and less than 1% for medical care for veterans.

    As of April 2008, DOD's monthly obligations for contracts and pay averaged about $12.1 billion, including $9.8 billion for Iraq, and $2.3 billion for Afghanistan. The recently enacted FY2008 Supplemental (H.R. 2642/P.L. 110-252) includes a total of about $160 billion for war costs for the Department of Defense (DOD), State/USAID and Veterans Administration medical programs for the rest of FY2008 and part of FY2009.

    Funds are expected to last until June or July 2009 well into a new Administration. The Administration did not submit a request to cover all of FY2009. While Congress provided a total of $182 billion for war costs in FY2008 -- $11 billion more than the prior year -- this represented a cut of almost $14 billion from the Administration's request.

    This cut included both reductions in DOD's investment accounts and a substitution of almost $6 billion in non-war funding that is not included in the CRS figures above. Congress also cut funding for foreign aid and diplomatic operations for Iraq and Afghanistan by $1.4 billion, providing a total of $4.5 billion. For FY2009, Congress provided $67 billion, close to the request. Earlier, to tide DOD over until passage of the supplemental, the House and Senate appropriations committees approved part of a DOD request to transfer funds from its regular accounts.

    In February 2008, the Congressional Budget Office projected that additional war costs from FY2009 through FY2018 could range from $440 billion, if troop levels fell to 30,000 by 2010, to $1.0 trillion, if troop levels fell to 75,000 by about 2013. Under these scenarios, CBO projects that funding for Iraq, Afghanistan and the GWOT could reach from about $1.1 trillion to about $1.7 trillion for FY2001FY2018. This report will be updated as warranted."
     
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    Didn't calling someone a tool go out when Dawson' Creek went of the air!
     
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    The only thing that makes me sad is that McCain is no longer the McCain of 2000.
     
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    Don't we screen members for the retard gene anymore?
     

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