McCain is the Greatest Flip Flopper of all time

[Jennifer.Bush]

obama gets more money from oil company employees. mccain gets more money from the oil companies through lobbyists.

Nothing illegal about it. Just expect McCain to work in the best interest of Corporations and Obama will work in the best interests of American workers.

Actually, Obama will work for both Corporations and Labor. You will probably point to that and say, "see, he's no different" but you will be clueless about how he is at the same time working for the middle class. That's because you don't know what you are talking about.

i guess he's working for the interest of Corporations by not taxing small business, appointing judges who will follow the LAW, and trying to win in Iraq

 

[Chris]

Genius...notice the highlighted area..

$1.1 million in two weeks.

What do they expect in return?

 

[jreeves]

$1.1 million in two weeks.

What do they expect in return?

What do the millions of other private individuals that give to both campaigns expect in return for their contributions?

 

[muttamerican]

The Concord Coalition is a grassroots effort of fiscal responsibility. According to Peter Peterson, author of Running on Empty and the former secretary of commerce under Nixon, Social Security is unsustainable as it is. Scap it?, Reform it?, that is something that we will have to decide fairly soon here, being that we have a significant portion of our society getting ready to drawl on their accounts.

My humble beliefs, we do need to supplement our aged. Every healthy society should care for their young and their old.

 

[midcan5]

The Concord Coalition is a grassroots effort of fiscal responsibility. According to Peter Peterson, author of Running on Empty and the former secretary of commerce under Nixon, Social Security is unsustainable as it is. Scap it?, Reform it?, that is something that we will have to decide fairly soon here, being that we have a significant portion of our society getting ready to drawl on their accounts.

My humble beliefs, we do need to supplement our aged. Every healthy society should care for their young and their old.

HUH! SS is not the issue, medical care is, and it the hardest part to control as medicine cannot be outsourced, nor does it compete globally as the AMA etc control the market. SS is fine. It is only the working poor who compete globally through a wal-mart mentality, so the least we can do is make sure they don't starve.

Capitalism is for the poor socialism is for the rich.

The Conservative Nanny State

 

[muttamerican]

You are really stupid aren't you, here you go. Here's the top PAC recipients for 2008....No where do I see MCcain's name.


Seriously Reeves, stop your blind attacks on the others in here. Now again, are you trying to be deceiving or did YOU actually not do your homework?

 

[newfnshow715]

he flips then calls me his friend so i feel better

 

[newfnshow715]

I posted for him on his site and he gave me nothing, liar

 

[jreeves]

You are really stupid aren't you, here you go. Here's the top PAC recipients for 2008....No where do I see MCcain's name.


Seriously Reeves, stop your blind attacks on the others in here. Now again, are you trying to be deceiving or did YOU actually not do your homework?

Oil & Gas: Top PAC Recipients | OpenSecrets

 

[sealybobo]

Oil & Gas: Top PAC Recipients | OpenSecrets

If you don't think the gop are the party fighting alternative energy development and they do it because oil companies don't want alternatives that solve our dependence on oil.

So do the democrats you say?

Well clearly they are the lesser of two evils. The dems want the oil companies to share record profits, the gop does not. They just want to cave to the lobbyist and give them what they want.

You think bush being an oil man would have helped lower gas prices. Him being so smart and all.

Which party is more in bed with oil companies? Bush is the oil companies.

Chaney is the war for profit guy.

Vote Mccain so these men and their appointees stay in power.

 

[jreeves]

If you don't think the gop are the party fighting alternative energy development and they do it because oil companies don't want alternatives that solve our dependence on oil.

So do the democrats you say?

Well clearly they are the lesser of two evils. The dems want the oil companies to share record profits, the gop does not. They just want to cave to the lobbyist and give them what they want.

You think bush being an oil man would have helped lower gas prices. Him being so smart and all.

Which party is more in bed with oil companies? Bush is the oil companies.

Chaney is the war for profit guy.

Vote Mccain so these men and their appointees stay in power.

It's easy to say the Gop doesn't support alternative energy...when in fact your comment is a lie.
What is suprising is that you say that Bush has caved into Oil companies...when in fact Obama voted for his plan, while MCcain voted against the 2005 energy policy.

 

[sealybobo]

It's easy to say the Gop doesn't support alternative energy...when in fact your comment is a lie.
What is suprising is that you say that Bush has caved into Oil companies...when in fact Obama voted for his plan, while MCcain voted against the 2005 energy policy.

Mccain has flip flopped on every position he had from 00-07, so I can only assume he would support it now.

Who knows why obama voted for it. I sure won't accept your version of the facts, seing as how your story will have at least 41 errors/false facts.

Do you know you are telling lies and just spinning or do you believe your own bullshit?

 

[sealybobo]

What do the millions of other private individuals that give to both campaigns expect in return for their contributions?

We give to obama because we think he will work for the people. Corporate America gives more to mccain because he will work less for us and more for them.

Obama will be fair to corporations but mccain won't be fair to us.

 

[jreeves]

We give to obama because we think he will work for the people. Corporate America gives more to mccain because he will work less for us and more for them.

Obama will be fair to corporations but mccain won't be fair to us.

Sure.
The New York Times > Log In
Mr. Obama’s hedge fund contributors include:

John Griffin, the founder of Blue Ridge Capital, who made $625 million in 2007, according to Alpha. Mr. Griffin is backing Mr. Obama after initially supporting Mitt Romney.

Kenneth C. Griffin (no relation) of the Citadel Investment Group in Chicago, who earned $1.5 billion. He contributed to the Obama campaign after the senator came to his office last year.

Stephen Mandel of Lone Pine Capital, who took home $710 million last year.

And, of course, George Soros, who earned almost $3 billion last year. It is no surprise that Mr. Soros, a Democratic stalwart, is backing Mr. Obama. Mr. Soros campaigned against President Bush in 2004, and Moveon.org, which the billionaire investor has plied with tens of millions of dollars, endorsed Mr. Obama in February.

Of course, not every Richie Rich is backing Mr. Obama.

James H. Simons, the mathematician who runs Renaissance Technologies, who made $2.8 billion last year, has donated to Mrs. Clinton.

And Steven Cohen of SAC Capital, whose take home pay was $900 million, is splitting his money down the middle: He donated $28,500 to both the Democratic and Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee. (He had given money to John E. Sununu and Christopher J. Dodd.)

John Paulson of Paulson & Company, the top earner, with $3.7 billion last year, doesn’t appear to have a financial dog left in the hunt: He gave to Mitt Romney and Rudolph Giuliani.

Philip Falcone, who founded Harbinger Partners and made $1.7 billion last year, has given to the Republican National Committee, but to no individual candidate. (His firm may have bought itself influence in another way: It recently won agreement from The New York Times Company to add two members to its board.)

Timothy Barakett of Atticus Capital, who made $750 million, and O. Andreas Halvorsen of Viking Global Investors, who earned $520 million, don’t appear to have given money to either side.

By the way, just so we don’t forget: these guys are not like you and me. The median American family earned $60,500 last year.

So why is Mr. Obama such a popular choice among the hedge fund crowd?

In a word, access. Unlike Mr. McCain and Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Obama is relatively new to national politics and is therefore open to bringing new people — and new money — into the tent. For money types who want a table, or at least to look involved and get an invitation to the right parties, Mr. Obama is the candidate.

 

[midcan5]

By the way, just so we don’t forget: these guys are not like you and me. The median American family earned $60,500 last year.

Earned! Earned? Someone would need to cure cancer to have earned a billion dollars in a single year, siphoned or awarded oneself the money is a more accurate term. High level executives and business people do not earn they take and because they occupy that position their taking is legal.

Corporate Greed Condemns America

“In the 1950’s the American Dream became a reality. This was a time when a working man could support a family, own a house and maybe a new car, and send his kids to college. This was the dream of American GI’s, the people who risked their lives in World War II and saved the world for Democracy. It was what they thought about when they were spending those long, terrifying nights in muddy foxholes.

This was a time of economic balance in the country. Worker’s salaries were miniscule compared with today’s compensation packages, but a salary of less than $100 a week was enough for a person to buy a home and take care of his family. The house was probably a tract home, with four bedrooms, two baths, a yard and attached garage – nothing fancy, but a place the family could call home. It probably cost around $12,000 and the mere fact that you had a job meant you could qualify for a loan.”

http://viewfromthemeadow.com/corporategreed.html
Corporate Greed vs. Public Good, Where America Sho
Corporate greed, corruption, and the coming collapse of America as we know it
Dishonesty, Greed and Hypocrisy in Corporate America

 

[jreeves]

Earned! Earned? Someone would need to cure cancer to have earned a billion dollars in a single year, siphoned or awarded oneself the money is a more accurate term. High level executives and business people do not earn they take and because they occupy that position their taking is legal.

Corporate Greed Condemns America

“In the 1950’s the American Dream became a reality. This was a time when a working man could support a family, own a house and maybe a new car, and send his kids to college. This was the dream of American GI’s, the people who risked their lives in World War II and saved the world for Democracy. It was what they thought about when they were spending those long, terrifying nights in muddy foxholes.

This was a time of economic balance in the country. Worker’s salaries were miniscule compared with today’s compensation packages, but a salary of less than $100 a week was enough for a person to buy a home and take care of his family. The house was probably a tract home, with four bedrooms, two baths, a yard and attached garage – nothing fancy, but a place the family could call home. It probably cost around $12,000 and the mere fact that you had a job meant you could qualify for a loan.”

http://viewfromthemeadow.com/corporategreed.html
Corporate Greed vs. Public Good, Where America Sho
Corporate greed, corruption, and the coming collapse of America as we know it
Dishonesty, Greed and Hypocrisy in Corporate America

I didn't say what you quoted....So do me a favor earn yourself a trip on the little bus and come back when you can read...

 

[sealybobo]

Earned! Earned? Someone would need to cure cancer to have earned a billion dollars in a single year, siphoned or awarded oneself the money is a more accurate term. High level executives and business people do not earn they take and because they occupy that position their taking is legal.

Corporate Greed Condemns America

“In the 1950’s the American Dream became a reality. This was a time when a working man could support a family, own a house and maybe a new car, and send his kids to college. This was the dream of American GI’s, the people who risked their lives in World War II and saved the world for Democracy. It was what they thought about when they were spending those long, terrifying nights in muddy foxholes.

This was a time of economic balance in the country. Worker’s salaries were miniscule compared with today’s compensation packages, but a salary of less than $100 a week was enough for a person to buy a home and take care of his family. The house was probably a tract home, with four bedrooms, two baths, a yard and attached garage – nothing fancy, but a place the family could call home. It probably cost around $12,000 and the mere fact that you had a job meant you could qualify for a loan.”

http://viewfromthemeadow.com/corporategreed.html
Corporate Greed vs. Public Good, Where America Sho
Corporate greed, corruption, and the coming collapse of America as we know it
Dishonesty, Greed and Hypocrisy in Corporate America

I'm sorry you took the time to explain to that idiot. Your post was very well written and he totally blew of your points.

sometimes I think maybe i'm not explaining myself well but after reading your post and then his reply, I know now they aren't even listening.

they don't care. they feel like conservanomics works for them. even if they were affected, they are so conservative they still wouldn't put blame where it belongs.

I don't defend everything the democrats do, but I do seriously object to everything the gop has done for the last 8 yrs. time to go.

 

[jreeves]

I'm sorry you took the time to explain to that idiot. Your post was very well written and he totally blew of your points.

sometimes I think maybe i'm not explaining myself well but after reading your post and then his reply, I know now they aren't even listening.

they don't care. they feel like conservanomics works for them. even if they were affected, they are so conservative they still wouldn't put blame where it belongs.

I don't defend everything the democrats do, but I do seriously object to everything the gop has done for the last 8 yrs. time to go.

I'm sure you don't have a problem with quoting something that a person never said.....you are a skitzo afterall....

Go back through the thread jackass I never stated what Midcan, quoted me as saying....

 

[midcan5]

I didn't say what you quoted....So do me a favor earn yourself a trip on the little bus and come back when you can read...

I was railing against the use of the word. Stop crying.


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