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Huh? You're saying the UN is lying? But, Al Gore said this in 1998:You do know who the most powerful member of the UNSC is, yes? Surely you know that the US used its political capital from 9/11 to, in part, get that resolution passed.
That means the politicized UNSC is saying they are a threat. If you take everything the UNSC says at face value, I have a bridge to sell you.
we were discussing intel, not 1441
Saddam wasn't a threat? Somebody should have told the UN:
Text Of U.N. Iraq Resolution[1441], Security Council Put Saddam On Warning - CBS News
And who do you think were the sources of Australian, German and French intelligence...
Australia, Germany, and France
btw, Gump, if you didnt know, France and Germany opposed our actions
why would they use OUR intel if they opposed the action?
Huh? You're saying the UN is lying? But, Al Gore said this in 1998:
"No Doubt Saddam's Weapons Are Grave Threat"
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And he also said this:
"You Ignored Saddams terrorist ties!"
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I don't get it Larkinn. Was he just playing on our fears? Was he lying then or is he lying now? I'm so confused! Help me!
asshole, i read the threadReally? We weren't discussing 1441?
So I imagined this quote in post #21?
And then after that came Grump talking about the intel that 1441 was based on, eventually saying that:
You responded with your first substantive comment in the thread, and boy was it a doozy. You said:
The intel that Grump was referring too was the intel used in support of res 1441.
I don't always have time to spell things out to people like they are fucking children. Next time just read the thread so I don't need to treat you like you are 7 years old, yes?
In conclusion: We started talking about intel as relates to 1441, not the other way around.
McCain has been on the left-side of the fence so long he doesn't know how to make the right decision. Clearly Obama is wrong and McCain can't make up his mind. I'm not too keen on letting the government squander $700 billion of our money to bail-out companies that shouldn't be in business in the first place. Are you?
If Al gore was wrong then why didn't he admit it and why does he say Bush lied when he believed the same thing as Bush?Wow, you mean Al Gore is sometimes wrong too? It might surprise you, but unlike you, I don't always think anyone who happens to be in the same party as me is right no matter what they say.
Tries to push Illegal Alien Amnesty through twice.I challenge you to show evidence of McCain standing on the "left side of the fence."
asshole, i read the thread
that doesnt change the fact that France supported 1441 because of their OWN intel and NOT ours
If Al gore was wrong then why didn't he admit it and why does he say Bush lied when he believed the same thing as Bush?
Is Al Gore calling himself a liar?
And what about Hillary? Is she a liar too?
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Please let me know.
now who is acting like the child?Well, thats the first time you've made that assertion. Care to back it up with evidence?
yeah, and they all got to see everythingSo, heres a little thing about the US government that you might not know. We have a thing thats called "classified information". And what classified means is that some people get to see the information, and some people don't. Now do you see how 2 people can be saying the exact same thing, and one be lying and one not? Lying infers intent to deceive.
So, heres a little thing about the US government that you might not know. We have a thing thats called "classified information". And what classified means is that some people get to see the information, and some people don't. Now do you see how 2 people can be saying the exact same thing, and one be lying and one not? Lying infers intent to deceive.
Hmmm, I wonder if she was one of the six senators? Obama wasn't in the Senate at that time of course so he couldn't have seen it, but he was opposed to the war anyway. I wonder if he'd have seen the NIE would he have voted yes? Hmmm.In the fall of 2002, as Congress debated waging war in Iraq, copies of a 92-page assessment of Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction sat in two vaults on Capitol Hill, each protected by armed security guards and available to any member who showed up in person, without staff.
But only a few ever did. No more than six senators and a handful of House members read beyond the five-page National Intelligence Estimate executive summary, according to several congressional aides responsible for safeguarding the classified material.
Australia, Germany, and France
btw, Gump, if you didnt know, France and Germany opposed our actions
why would they use OUR intel if they opposed the action?
yeah, and they all got to see everything
and you seem to forget, AlGore and Hillary had that executive privilage not 3 years prior to their votes
now who is acting like the child?
do you REALLY think Member countries just rely on US intel for their votes?
or dont you think the French are capable of having their own intel sources?
yeah, and they all got to see everything
and you seem to forget, AlGore and Hillary had that executive privilage not 3 years prior to their votes
Would the NIE, National Intelligence Estimate be the classified info you're talking about?:
washingtonpost.com: Congressional Oversight of Intelligence Criticized
Hmmm, I wonder if she was one of the six senators? Obama wasn't in the Senate at that time of course so he couldn't have seen it, but he was opposed to the war anyway. I wonder if he'd have seen the NIE would he have voted yes? Hmmm.
Do you know if the NIE for that day is still classified?
no, that would be youThat would be you.
I have no idea whose sources the French used. You made the assertion, not me. I'd like you to back it up. Or are you just talking out of your ass again?
Al Gore and HRC never had all the access that Bush had. Yes, they see SOME classified material. Not all of it.
