Maybe we deserved this also?

[Rosotar]

Hell, libs oppose building the fence. Libs want to give illegals drivers licenses, welfare payments, SS benefits, and they see the illegals as a new voting block

No, that was your Pres that wanted to grant amnesty.

Remember?

 

[Diuretic]

Elsewhere there's talk they go into the US illegally with their parents in 1984 via Brownsville, Tx. I must admit to being bit sceptical of that. I also have some growing scepticism about this case, but time will tell.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Neither Democrats or Republicans want to actually prevent illegal Mexican workers. They have different reasons but neither party really wants to close the border.

Last I checked Bush is everyones President. Unless your not an american citizen or not living in the US anyway. I had to live with 8 years of Clinton, 4 of them in the Marine Corps, I never once said he wasn't my President.

Notice how when the left loses they were cheated somehow? They then try every trick in the book to pretend that their elected officials are somehow not theirs.

Does this mean that I can now go around claiming that the Democratic majority in Congress is not MY elected officials?

Democracy means that when the majority votes someone in you have no choice but to accept them. Well unless your a Liberal, they don't follow normal rules. laws are not meant for them, they know better then us knuckledragging neanderthals.

 

[Gunny]

No, that was your Pres that wanted to grant amnesty.

Remember?

That is OUR President, whether or not you like it, unless you move out of the country and renounce your citizenship.

And I stand 100% firmaly AGAINST President Bush's immigration policies. What exactly is your point?

 

[Alucard]

Now, the following are the senators who voted to give illegal aliens Social Security benefits. They are grouped by home state. If a state is not listed, there was no voting representative.

Alaska : Stevens (R)
Arizona : McCain (R)
Arkansas : Lincoln (D) Pryor (D)
California : Boxer (D) Feinstein (D)
Colorado : Salazar (D)
Connecticut : Dodd (D) Lieberman (D)
Delaware : Biden (D ) Carper (D)
Florida : Martinez (R)
Hawaii : Akaka (D) Inouye (D)
Illinois : Durbin (D) Obama (D)
Indiana: Bayh (D) Lugar (R)
Iowa: Harkin (D)
Kansas: Brownback (R)
Louisiana: Landrieu (D)
Maryland: Mikulski (D) Sarbanes (D)
Massachusetts: Kennedy (D) Kerry (D)
Montana: Baucus (D)
Nebraska: Hagel (R)
Nevada: ; Reid (D)
New Jersey: Lautenberg (D) Menendez (D)
New Mexico: Bingaman (D)
New York: Clinton (D) Schumer (D)
North Dakota : Dorgan (D)
Ohio : DeWine (R) Voinovich(R)
Oregon : Wyden (D)
Pennsylvania : Specter (R)
Rhode Island : Chafee (R) Reed (D)
South Carolina : Graham (R)
South Dakota Johnson (D)
Vermont : Jeffords (I) Leahy (D)
Washington : Cantwell (D) Murray (D)
West Virginia : Rockefeller (D), by Not Voting
Wisconsin : Feingold (D) Kohl (D)

 

[Truthmatters]

Neither Democrats or Republicans want to actually prevent illegal Mexican workers. They have different reasons but neither party really wants to close the border.

Last I checked Bush is everyones President. Unless your not an american citizen or not living in the US anyway. I had to live with 8 years of Clinton, 4 of them in the Marine Corps, I never once said he wasn't my President.

Notice how when the left loses they were cheated somehow? They then try every trick in the book to pretend that their elected officials are somehow not theirs.

Does this mean that I can now go around claiming that the Democratic majority in Congress is not MY elected officials?

Democracy means that when the majority votes someone in you have no choice but to accept them. Well unless your a Liberal, they don't follow normal rules. laws are not meant for them, they know better then us knuckledragging neanderthals.

Have you been paying any attention to the elections in Scotland?

I think they machine vote fraud problem just got international.

But then you dont care about reality do you?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Well except for the whole point that Democrats not republicans historically resort to fraud to win elections, not to mention that democrats own operate and build just as many machines and provide just as much code for said machines.

Lets not forget who bitched and moaned and DEMANDED we use said machines. Another case of " its true cause I say it is"

 

[pegwinn]

I'm not a big fan of simply posting news stories and little else. But, like it or not RSR is correct when it comes to the bias in todays media. Let's see, no asserted facts here... nothing to dispute

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this could have gone bad, really, really, really fucking bad. Let's see, no asserted facts here... nothing to dispute

Shortly after the Beirut Bombing a van full of fake bombs and a reporter out to score some cool points with his editor crossed the main gate at Camp Lejeune. Of course the reporters got raises, the Marines got ridiculed, and security didn't really tighten up much a'tall. Oh, sorry, I guess you are unfamiliar with Google. Lemmie hep ya out....... Source

The media is generally left leaning and normally anti military to boot. One of the reasons is the minimalist statements put out by PAO's who've learned that to castigate the reporters only invites more column inches of media bias. Look, an assertion (which is in support of the above) can you refute it?

More librul media conspiracy theory! [translation] Dammit, he's got me. What do I do now?[/translation]Tin-foil hat anybody?

I see that you've set aside this time to amuse us with your idea of reasoned discussion....... or gosh....... debate. I hear they have clues for sale at walmart, better hurry and get one before they sell out.

 

[Gunny]

Have you been paying any attention to the elections in Scotland?

I think they machine vote fraud problem just got international.

But then you dont care about reality do you?

So what's your solution? The world already saw what creative Democrats can do with a punch card ballot. Perhaps we should have microchips implanted in our skin and we can be scanned at the polls?

It really doesn't matter what method is used. Nothing is foolproof, and Democrats cry fraud when they lose because they just can't believe nobody wants them.

.

 

[Diuretic]

Have you been paying any attention to the elections in Scotland?

I think they machine vote fraud problem just got international.

But then you dont care about reality do you?

I think they use paper ballots there.

 

[Care4all]

Well unless your a Liberal, they don't follow normal rules. laws are not meant for them, they know better then us knuckledragging neanderthals.

sounds like president bush and his admistration.... i sometimes think he is the ''man of lawlessness''..... j/k

care

 

[RetiredGySgt]

sounds like president bush and his admistration.... i sometimes think he is the ''man of lawlessness''..... j/k

care

Shall we list all the Liberal's that the law just didn't apply to? And all the Conservatives that were guilty by political decree?

 

[red states rule]

Elsewhere there's talk they go into the US illegally with their parents in 1984 via Brownsville, Tx. I must admit to being bit sceptical of that. I also have some growing scepticism about this case, but time will tell.

If you live in Maryland, Dems have the welcome mat out for illegals - and the suckers who put the Dems in total control of the state are paying for it

Some are paying for it with their lives

and CASA is doing all they can to assist the illegals - I would like to see if they are violating any laws




Aiding and abetting illegals

May 13, 2007

New outrages in recent days serve to highlight the fact that Maryland has become an increasingly welcoming place for illegal aliens -- with taxpayers footing the bill -- and is likely to become even more so in the brave new world of one-party liberalism. According to Prince George's County Police, Never Leopoldo Navarro-Montoya, an illegal alien from Mexico carrying fake Social Security and permanent residency cards, was the driver of a pickup truck that crashed into an SUV early May 5, killing Matthew Watson, 20, a University of Maryland student. On Monday, Jerry Seper of The Washington Times reported that CASA of Maryland Inc. -- the state's leading advocacy group on behalf of illegals -- is distributing guidebooks instructing people targeted by federal immigration agents during job-site raids not to cooperate with authorities if they are detained or arrested. The book features cartoon-like drawings of armed black and white police officers escorting Hispanic men in handcuffs and shows babies crying because their fathers are incarcerated.
Most of CASA's $2.78 million in revenue in the year ending June 30, 2005, came from government fees and contracts. The organization received funds from the Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the state of Maryland; Montgomery and Prince George's counties; and the cities of Takoma Park and Baltimore. Even with an estimated $1.5 billion state deficit and the prospect of tax increases staring Marylanders in the face, don't expect CASA to be short of money: The group has plenty of powerful friends in the Maryland General Assembly. Major Democratic figures -- including House Speaker Michael Busch, Prince George's County Executive Jack Johnson, State's Attorney Glenn Ivey and Montgomery County Executive Ike Leggett -- use their political muscle on CASA's behalf. CASA also uses tax dollars for day-labor sites and makes no distinction between immigrants and illegal aliens. CASA Executive Director Gustavo Torres served on Martin O'Malley's gubernatorial transition team. Rick Abbruzzese, a spokesman for Mr. O'Malley, said in December that Mr. Torres was appointed partly to be a voice for the legal and illegal immigrant communities.
With politicians putting out the welcome mat, it comes as no surprise that the number of illegals in Maryland is growing. According to the Pew Hispanic Center, there were an estimated 120,000 illegals in the Maryland in 2000. The number increased to 225,000-275,000 in 2006. CASA is doing its level best to attract more of them to Maryland by taking a leadership role in mobilizing support for in-state tuition for illegal aliens and lobbying against legislation that would deny them driver's licenses.
On the question of ensuring that illegals retain access to Maryland driver's licenses, CASA has few friends more powerful than Sen. Paul Pinsky, a Prince George's County Democrat who serves as chairman of the legislative panel that reviews state regulations. In October, then-Gov. Robert Ehrlich, noting that the state Motor Vehicle Administration (MVA) had experienced a dramatic increase in fraudulent applications for Maryland licenses, wrote Mr. Pinsky urging him to hold a hearing on the subject. Mr. Pinsky rejected Mr. Ehrlich's request to hold a hearing before the November election, and, joined by CASA's Mr. Torres and the O'Malley campaign, suggested that by raising the issue that Mr. Ehrlich was engaged in immigrant-bashing for political gain. Mr. Pinsky helpfully added that members were too busy campaigning to reconvene for a hearing on driver's-license fraud.
Mr. Ehrlich pointed out that that an MVA internal study, first reported in this newspaper, revealed a 233 percent increase from 2003 to 2005 in the number of false claims of Maryland residency or attempts to obtain new identities when applying for licenses. "It is clear that Maryland is becoming a magnet for illegal immigrants living on the East Coast who are using fraud to prove legal residence in the state," the Republican governor wrote in his letter to Mr. Pinsky. Unfortunately, Mr. Ehrlich's concerns were ignored by the Democratic Party majority bloc -- just as the General Assembly and the current governor have scandalously failed in their responsibility to bring the state's requirements for issuing driver's licenses into compliance with the federal Real ID act (Maryland is one of the few states in the country which do not require applicants to prove they are legal immigrants before seeking a driver's license).
That brings us back to the story of Mr. Navarro-Montoya, who has been charged with driving under the influence and driving while intoxicated, among other things. CASA and its allied politicians will mount a superb spin campaign to drive home the point that his alleged drunk driving has nothing to do with his unlawful presence in this country. We disagree, of course. Mr. Navarro-Montoya's broke the law by entering America illegally, and there's the question of the forged documents that were in his possession -- and those law-and-order issues are pre-eminent. After all, because he is an illegal alien, who can say that he is, in fact, Never Leopoldo Navarro-Montoya?

http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20070512-101530-5723r.htm