Maybe there were WMD in Iraq

[Skull Pilot]

AFP: Iraqi uranium transferred to Canada

MWC News - A Site Without Borders - - US announces Iraq uranium transfer

The question is why did the Bush administration keep mum about this? Could there have been some political reason that made it more expedient not to reveal this?

 

[sealybobo]

AFP: Iraqi uranium transferred to Canada

MWC News - A Site Without Borders - - US announces Iraq uranium transfer

The question is why did the Bush administration keep mum about this? Could there have been some political reason that made it more expedient not to reveal this?

I don't buy it.

Iran has "wmd's" too. So does the USA. As long as they aren't using them.

I heard that Saddam invaded Kuwait because they were horizontally tapping his oil. It does seem strange that he would invade one of his neighbors for no reason.

I can't pretend to have all the answers. I just know that America is very good at spreading propoganda and I know we don't get the same news as International news. So maybe we are being brainwashed and lied to?

We are definately the modern day version of Rome or Great Britain. Can anyone say either of those past superpowers were innocent and richous in every situation? Marching into 3rd world countries, stealing their resources, exploiting them, etc.

After 8 years of Bush, I'm beginning to question it when Condy or Chaney says another country is "evil". Can you blame me?

 

[Doug]

I believe that Saddam's uranium was intended for the manufacture of tableware made out of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_glass" target="_blank"> uranium glass</a>.

These lovely dishes were then going to hold mustard. In other words, Saddam was hoping to manufacture radiantly lovely mustard glass.

Of course, the lying Zionist imperialist crusader Western media twisted it all around, as usual.

 

[editec]

Got any more easily recognizable websites that we can check this out on?

I never heard of either of these.

AFP looks pretty dubious to me

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[midcan5]

Let it die, if this were true you would have heard about it probably a million times or more from the neocons who started this illegal war. I do understand there are rocks there and much sand which could constitute WMDs if placed in the engines of America or thrown from tall buildings.


A vote for John McCain is a vote against the fundamental principle of America, the right of the individual to lead their life privately without the government interfering.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I don't buy it.

Iran has "wmd's" too. So does the USA. As long as they aren't using them.

I heard that Saddam invaded Kuwait because they were horizontally tapping his oil. It does seem strange that he would invade one of his neighbors for no reason.

I can't pretend to have all the answers. I just know that America is very good at spreading propoganda and I know we don't get the same news as International news. So maybe we are being brainwashed and lied to?

We are definately the modern day version of Rome or Great Britain. Can anyone say either of those past superpowers were innocent and richous in every situation? Marching into 3rd world countries, stealing their resources, exploiting them, etc.

After 8 years of Bush, I'm beginning to question it when Condy or Chaney says another country is "evil". Can you blame me?

I suggest you learn some facts. Saddam Hussein Invaded Kuwait because he claimed it was the 19th Province of Iraq. It had nothing to do with Kuwait stealing anything.. Now lets think about this for a moment, if Kuwait oil wells were stealing Iraq Oil, what would happen to Iraq oil when he set those wells on fire?

And yes I can blame you for being a stupid person that does not know facts or reality.

Ohh and explain how we stole anything from Iraq. Go ahead provide some evidence we took any oil from them. I won't hold my breathe though waiting.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

A vote for John McCain is a vote against the fundamental principle of America, the right of the individual to lead their life privately without the government interfering.

This is funny as shit, every time you post it you prove what a retard you really are. The Democrats are the ones that create laws that restrict citizens, they not the republicans are the ones that create laws that remove rights and privileges. All one has to do is glance back through our history for the facts on that issue.

Obama is a socialist turd and a crack pot. A vote for him, is a vote for the destruction of this country.

 

[sealybobo]

Let it die, if this were true you would have heard about it probably a million times or more from the neocons who started this illegal war. I do understand there are rocks there and much sand which could constitute WMDs if placed in the engines of America or thrown from tall buildings.


A vote for John McCain is a vote against the fundamental principle of America, the right of the individual to lead their life privately without the government interfering.

Hey Midcan5. I thought of something yesterday when a neo con poster scoffed off my "proof" because it came from a "liberal" source of media. I asked him, "what media do you approve of"? Since they think MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, Time, NY TIMES, Rolling Stones, etc. Since they think EVERY media is liberal, I want to know what sources they approve of. I can't wait to hear back from them.

And, if I'm right and the mainstream media has been taken over by rich corporations who's intent is to turn the media pro GOP, what chance is there that we will ever find anything that paints them in a negative way?

So of course all my sources will be "liberal". The "conservative" media sure isn't going to tell us the truth. Right?

 

[CSM]

Got any more easily recognizable websites that we can check this out on?

I never heard of either of these.

AFP looks pretty dubious to me




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Herfe is the same story from another "dubious" site:

U.S. removes 'yellowcake' from Iraq - Conflict in Iraq - MSNBC.com

MSNBC has always been suspect in my view.

 

[sealybobo]

I suggest you learn some facts. Saddam Hussein Invaded Kuwait because he claimed it was the 19th Province of Iraq. It had nothing to do with Kuwait stealing anything.. Now lets think about this for a moment, if Kuwait oil wells were stealing Iraq Oil, what would happen to Iraq oil when he set those wells on fire?

And yes I can blame you for being a stupid person that does not know facts or reality.

Ohh and explain how we stole anything from Iraq. Go ahead provide some evidence we took any oil from them. I won't hold my breathe though waiting.

The Iraqi government is to award a series of key oil contracts to British and US companies later today, fuelling criticism that the Iraq war was largely about oil.

The successful companies are expected to include Shell, BP, Exxon Mobil, Chevron and Total.

Non-Western companies, notably those in Russia, are expected to lose out.

The technical support contracts will give the companies access to Iraq's vast untapped oil fields. Oil production in Iraq is at its highest level since the invasion in 2003. The Iraqi government wants to increase production by 20%, as the country has an estimated 115bn barrels of crude reserves.

The US state department was involved in drawing up the contracts, the New York Times reported today.

It provided template contracts and suggestions on drafting but were not involved in the decisions, US officials said.

Democratic senators last week lobbied that the awarding of the contracts should be delayed until after the Iraqi parliament passes laws on the distribution of oil revenues.

Frederick Barton, senior adviser at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies, told the paper: "We pretend it [oil] is not a centerpiece of our motivation, yet we keep confirming that it is."
Last year Alan Greenspan, the former chairman of the Federal Reserve said: "Everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil."

British and US companies win Iraq oil contracts | World news | guardian.co.uk

 

[sealybobo]

I suggest you learn some facts. Saddam Hussein Invaded Kuwait because he claimed it was the 19th Province of Iraq. It had nothing to do with Kuwait stealing anything.. Now lets think about this for a moment, if Kuwait oil wells were stealing Iraq Oil, what would happen to Iraq oil when he set those wells on fire?

And yes I can blame you for being a stupid person that does not know facts or reality.

Ohh and explain how we stole anything from Iraq. Go ahead provide some evidence we took any oil from them. I won't hold my breathe though waiting.

Just cause bush tells you it is true, does not make it fact. And I was speculating retard.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The Iraqi government is to award a series of key oil contracts to British and US companies later today, fuelling criticism that the Iraq war was largely about oil.

The successful companies are expected to include Shell, BP, Exxon Mobil, Chevron and Total.

Non-Western companies, notably those in Russia, are expected to lose out.

The technical support contracts will give the companies access to Iraq's vast untapped oil fields. Oil production in Iraq is at its highest level since the invasion in 2003. The Iraqi government wants to increase production by 20%, as the country has an estimated 115bn barrels of crude reserves.

The US state department was involved in drawing up the contracts, the New York Times reported today.

It provided template contracts and suggestions on drafting but were not involved in the decisions, US officials said.

Democratic senators last week lobbied that the awarding of the contracts should be delayed until after the Iraqi parliament passes laws on the distribution of oil revenues.

Frederick Barton, senior adviser at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies, told the paper: "We pretend it [oil] is not a centerpiece of our motivation, yet we keep confirming that it is."
Last year Alan Greenspan, the former chairman of the Federal Reserve said: "Everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil."

British and US companies win Iraq oil contracts | World news | guardian.co.uk

So because the GOVERNMENT of Iraq made deals with NON French sources that means we STOLE the oil? Funny thing, we have to actually PAY them for it at market prices, last I checked stealing involved getting something for NOTHING.

Do get some better sources and read some real history that is not on some crack pot Conspiracy site.

Remind me of all the oil we stole over the last 6 years?

 

[sealybobo]

This is funny as shit, every time you post it you prove what a retard you really are. The Democrats are the ones that create laws that restrict citizens, they not the republicans are the ones that create laws that remove rights and privileges. All one has to do is glance back through our history for the facts on that issue.

Obama is a socialist turd and a crack pot. A vote for him, is a vote for the destruction of this country.

People who make $40-$70K will get a better tax break under Obama. People who make $71-$200K will stay the same. The richest people in America will lose $1 million dollars under Obama. In other words, he's going to take the bush tax breaks away to put things back to the way the were. Back when the economy worked.

If those unfair tax breaks worked, maybe he wouldn't take them away. But they have not. Now the richest people in America will have to start a business or hire people to get tax breaks. We will no longer just give them an unfair tax break and hope they trickle it down. And he will end loopholes where they can take their money and put it in offshore bank accounts to avoid paying taxes.

I love how you guys hate people that don't pay taxes but you approve of loopholes that allow rich people to avoid paying taxes. You aren't even rich dummy.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Just cause bush tells you it is true, does not make it fact. And I was speculating retard.

Bush had nothing to do with Iraq invading Kuwait you dumb shit. His Father was President then. And except some off the wall conspiracy site you won't find any source that claims Kuwait was invaded because of stealing oil. Saddam was clear why he invaded. He stated Kuwait was part of Iraq and he was taking it back.

he only thing we had to do with that is a STUPID Ambassador that let Saddam Hussein think we did not mind if he seized Kuwait.

 

[sealybobo]

So because the GOVERNMENT of Iraq made deals with NON French sources that means we STOLE the oil? Funny thing, we have to actually PAY them for it at market prices, last I checked stealing involved getting something for NOTHING.

Do get some better sources and read some real history that is not on some crack pot Conspiracy site.

Remind me of all the oil we stole over the last 6 years?

We invaded their country and right now they don't have water, electricity or waste removal in Iraq. Let me do that to you and then offer you a business deal. You'll do whatever I ask just to get me the hell out of your face.

Offer they COULDN"T refuse!!!!

You should RETIRE from politics. LOL.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

People who make $40-$70K will get a better tax break under Obama. People who make $71-$200K will stay the same. The richest people in America will lose $1 million dollars under Obama. In other words, he's going to take the bush tax breaks away to put things back to the way the were. Back when the economy worked.

If those unfair tax breaks worked, maybe he wouldn't take them away. But they have not. Now the richest people in America will have to start a business or hire people to get tax breaks. We will no longer just give them an unfair tax break and hope they trickle it down. And he will end loopholes where they can take their money and put it in offshore bank accounts to avoid paying taxes.

I love how you guys hate people that don't pay taxes but you approve of loopholes that allow rich people to avoid paying taxes. You aren't even rich dummy.

Get back to me when he does actually cut any loop holes. Over taxing people just cause they have more than you is not the American way, it is not right nor is it fair. But socialists like you don't mind one bit cause according to you retards you should get something for nothing.

 

[midcan5]

Herfe is the same story from another "dubious" site:

U.S. removes 'yellowcake' from Iraq - Conflict in Iraq - MSNBC.com

MSNBC has always been suspect in my view.

Can you read? that is from AP and rather curious given even Bush said Iraq had no WMDs. So maybe we need call this something else, you think.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

We invaded their country and right now they don't have water, electricity or waste removal in Iraq. Let me do that to you and then offer you a business deal. You'll do whatever I ask just to get me the hell out of your face.

Offer they COULDN"T refuse!!!!

You should RETIRE from politics. LOL.

You REALLY need to get some facts. The infrastructure of Iraq is in better shape now then under Saddam Hussein you stupid shit. And it would be a hell of a lot better if Iraqis were not busy tearing it apart after we fix it. Do keep spouting your ignorant pap.

 

[Ravi]

Herfe is the same story from another "dubious" site:

U.S. removes 'yellowcake' from Iraq - Conflict in Iraq - MSNBC.com

MSNBC has always been suspect in my view.

From your link:

Israeli warplanes bombed a reactor project at the site in 1981. Later, U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War. There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official said.

*yawn*

 

[sealybobo]

Get back to me when he does actually cut any loop holes. Over taxing people just cause they have more than you is not the American way, it is not right nor is it fair. But socialists like you don't mind one bit cause according to you retards you should get something for nothing.

Why do you think rich people were being overtaxed before Reagan got into office?

And did HW Bush cut their taxes even more? Were they still being "over" taxed?

And then GW Bush cut their taxes even MORE.

I say they aren't paying enough taxes. Look at the economy dummy. Look at the debt. Look at social security.

You aren't rich stupid. What's wrong with you. You are being overtaxed, but not them. Get that through your thick skull.