Matthew 6:5-8

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    How does this apply to the insistence of religious conservatives on public prayer in secular settings?
     
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    I think exactly like you're thinking it does :) Though God knows the intent of our hearts, and His Grace if sufficient, thank Him so much.

    Christians are prone to vanity and sin too of course - all the more we need our Saviour. When we read the accounts of so many people the Lord used to Glorify them, we see they all were huge sinners, just like we all are. Moses killed someone, Paul in the New Testament used to persecute Christians also. David, a man after Gods own heart, committed adultery. That doesn't make sin ok, we reap what we sow, but that's the whole reason Jesus Christ came - for the sins of the world.

    Conviction comes when someone truly believes God's Word is true, and so when verses like you posted hopefully will guide us, convict us, lead the Christian out of those things we do wrong for "self glory". Sometimes it takes longer for each one than another.

    I can't tell you how many times a day I sin. Even in my thought process. The more I learn from His Word, the more I know I need help and guidance away from any "self righteousness", away from any "pride", away from so many things, but instead to love.

    His Word is likened to a double edged Sword and also the "Sword of the Spirit". Truly amazing, and also helps us instead of hurting us. Even though our "flesh" will sometimes kick against Him.



    Heb 4:12 is an amazing verse.



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    I think I'd have highlighted this verse:

    15And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

    Forcing other people to endure public demonstrations of religiosity isn't the act of a peacemaker. Enjoyed your post, Marie.
     
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    I prayed over every single last grammer test I ever took.
    God answered my prayers by having English class be 1/2 grammer and 1/2 reading.

    humor aside

    I think this is more of a freedom of speech issue. You can't stop a kid from praying unless he's disrupting class.
     
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    no one can stop anyone from prayer...prayer is between you and your deity....it does not need to be a public thing....no one can stop anyone else from praying..
     
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    Do you think that public prayers at large events (like offering a prayer at the start of a NASCAR race) is biblical?
     
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    This is the proper answer in my opinion.

    It is true to the spirit of the first ammendment.
     
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    Biblical? No.

    Its just people of different faiths praying together to their god(s).
     
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    God also commands that Christians gather together. And when they do the meeting is normally started and ended by a prayer.
     
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    Off hand, I'd say group prayer is far different than individual prayer.


    religions have lots, and by lots I mean LOTS of rituals. Either remnants of the religion before it or adoptions of from religions that got replaced.

    Easter; easter bunny and eggs
    The Cross
    rosaries
    kneeling
    clasping your hands to pray
    praying 5 times a day
    fasting
    trees
    etc etc etc..

    Off hand, I don't think a divine super being would give a damn about human semantics.

    But I got a solid C in English class. :eusa_pray:
     

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