Massachusetts: This Is The Nation’s Toughest Gun Law

[Papageorgio]

So you're not being consistent. You said "all gun owners." When asked about cars, you limited it to those wanting to drive it in public.

Funny. It's hard to be consistent when an idiot is trying to compare apples and onions.

Feel free to argue that cars should be more heavily restricted given that more people die from them.

Are you unaware of speed limits and abundant traffic laws to license and use a motor vehicle on our public roads and highways - including insurance requirements?

Are you unaware that driving a car is a privilege and not a right, we have a right to own a gun, it is a privilege to drive a car. Of course the driving laws should be stricter.

You have a right to own a musket.

Not according to the Constitution but hey you are very bright when it comes to the Constitution.

 

[Auld Phart]

Feel free to argue that cars should be more heavily restricted given that more people die from them.

Are you unaware of speed limits and abundant traffic laws to license and use a motor vehicle on our public roads and highways - including insurance requirements?

Are you unaware that driving a car is a privilege and not a right, we have a right to own a gun, it is a privilege to drive a car. Of course the driving laws should be stricter.

You have a right to own a musket.

yes, and nearly every firearm invented since the 2nd was written.

(and even those, if you want to wade through the red tape.)

Are you in a militia?

NO

nor is it necessary to belong to one to own a firearm.

 

[Papageorgio]

So you're not being consistent. You said "all gun owners." When asked about cars, you limited it to those wanting to drive it in public.

Funny. It's hard to be consistent when an idiot is trying to compare apples and onions.

Feel free to argue that cars should be more heavily restricted given that more people die from them.

Are you unaware of speed limits and abundant traffic laws to license and use a motor vehicle on our public roads and highways - including insurance requirements?

Are you unaware that driving a car is a privilege and not a right, we have a right to own a gun, it is a privilege to drive a car. Of course the driving laws should be stricter.

You have a right to vote. Doesn’t stop righties from putting up all these voter ID laws .

It doesn't stop the left for wanting all to pay a tax to own a gun.

 

[Lakhota]

Are you unaware of speed limits and abundant traffic laws to license and use a motor vehicle on our public roads and highways - including insurance requirements?

Are you unaware that driving a car is a privilege and not a right, we have a right to own a gun, it is a privilege to drive a car. Of course the driving laws should be stricter.

You have a right to own a musket.

yes, and nearly every firearm invented since the 2nd was written.

(and even those, if you want to wade through the red tape.)

Are you in a militia?

NO

nor is it necessary to belong to one to own a firearm.

Well, it is according to the obsolete 2nd Amendment. Eventually, a Liberal Supreme Court will clean that mess up.

 

[Lakhota]

Funny. It's hard to be consistent when an idiot is trying to compare apples and onions.

Feel free to argue that cars should be more heavily restricted given that more people die from them.

Are you unaware of speed limits and abundant traffic laws to license and use a motor vehicle on our public roads and highways - including insurance requirements?

Are you unaware that driving a car is a privilege and not a right, we have a right to own a gun, it is a privilege to drive a car. Of course the driving laws should be stricter.

You have a right to vote. Doesn’t stop righties from putting up all these voter ID laws .

It doesn't stop the left for wanting all to pay a tax to own a gun.

Isn't gun safety worth the price?

 

[Pilot1]

You have a right to vote. Doesn’t stop righties from putting up all these voter ID laws .

Where is the voting held as a Natural Right guaranteed by the Constitution not to be infringed? Where is voting even mentioned in the Constitution?

 

[Pilot1]

Well, it is according to the obsolete 2nd Amendment. Eventually, a Liberal Supreme Court will clean that mess up.

Is the First Amendment obsolete too, and all the other ones? The 2A is a Natural Right we have as humans. Government can not take that away.

 

[Auld Phart]

Are you unaware that driving a car is a privilege and not a right, we have a right to own a gun, it is a privilege to drive a car. Of course the driving laws should be stricter.

You have a right to own a musket.

yes, and nearly every firearm invented since the 2nd was written.

(and even those, if you want to wade through the red tape.)

Are you in a militia?

NO

nor is it necessary to belong to one to own a firearm.

Well, it is according to the obsolete 2nd Amendment. Eventually, a Liberal Supreme Court will clean that mess up.

Well, it is according to the obsolete 2nd Amendment.

No, it's not.

The Right wasn't given to the Militia, it was given to the People.

Eventually, a Liberal Supreme Court will clean that mess up.

Judicial Activism?

I doubt even they will force people to join a militia in order to own a firearm.

but, keep your hopes up.

 

[Timmy]

You have a right to vote. Doesn’t stop righties from putting up all these voter ID laws .

Where is the voting held as a Natural Right guaranteed by the Constitution not to be infringed? Where is voting even mentioned in the Constitution?

You realize there is more to the constitution AFTER the 2nd . Try reading it .

Where does the con mention “natural rights”? What’s “natural” about a firearm?

 

[Timmy]

You have a right to vote. Doesn’t stop righties from putting up all these voter ID laws .

Where is the voting held as a Natural Right guaranteed by the Constitution not to be infringed? Where is voting even mentioned in the Constitution?

19th amendment litterally starts with

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote “.

shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

 

[Pilot1]

19th amendment litterally starts with

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote “.

shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

I guess you are a woman then?

 

[Auld Phart]

You have a right to vote. Doesn’t stop righties from putting up all these voter ID laws .

Where is the voting held as a Natural Right guaranteed by the Constitution not to be infringed? Where is voting even mentioned in the Constitution?

19th amendment litterally starts with

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote “.

shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote “.

yes

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote “

Not illegal aliens, not people here on a visa, etc


CITIZENS!

 

[Timmy]

You have a right to vote. Doesn’t stop righties from putting up all these voter ID laws .

Where is the voting held as a Natural Right guaranteed by the Constitution not to be infringed? Where is voting even mentioned in the Constitution?

19th amendment litterally starts with

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote “.

shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote “.

yes

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote “

Not illegal aliens, not people here on a visa, etc


CITIZENS!

Yes. And your point is?

Oh, you are one of those freaks that think all these illegals are voting in our national elections?

 

[Auld Phart]

You have a right to vote. Doesn’t stop righties from putting up all these voter ID laws .

Where is the voting held as a Natural Right guaranteed by the Constitution not to be infringed? Where is voting even mentioned in the Constitution?

19th amendment litterally starts with

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote “.

shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote “.

yes

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote “

Not illegal aliens, not people here on a visa, etc


CITIZENS!

Yes. And your point is?

Oh, you are one of those freaks that think all these illegals are voting in our national elections?

no

but how do you keep non citizens from voting, if you don't provide proof they ARE citizens?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Massachusetts can do what they want... states rights and all.

States' rights are not relevant here. The right to keep and bear arms does not belong to the states. It belongs to the people.

Note that the Tenth Amendment speaks of powers (or rights) belonging to the federal government, powers belonging to the states, and powers belonging to the people. The Second Amendment is explicit about to whom the right which it affirms belongs.

The states have no more legitimate authority to infringe this right than the federal government does. Any gun control law, enacted or enforced at any level of government, is an act of corruption and lawlessness.

 

[flacaltenn]

Who "CARRIES" a shotgun or a rifle? Don't you fear that 4 days of "sponge bob" safety training might NOT be enough for "carrying" a pistol?? Making the requirements the SAME makes no sense. If anything, a CARRY license should be WAY more difficult to prove proficiency and safety. It's just fund raising...

There's no brains to this. No common sense to make the State Application for "ownership" and "carry" the same.

Four days? Don't you mean four hours?

Yeah I did. 4 HOURS is meaningless as "common sense" anything. It's equivalent to claiming that all licensed drivers or florists or hair braiders are "SAFE" by the fact that they PAID the state $100 on a renewable license.

And for PEPPER SPRAY to cost you ANY TAX from a State? That's insane. You really don't like poor people to have ANY ability to defend themselves --- do you? BTW -- the "restricted" FID card for mace/sprays is only $25 --- but STILL --- it makes criminals out of folks who are just using the least lethal force you can buy..

Why don't you take a break from this thread until you can get your facts straight.

Why don't you correct me if I'm wrong. I guarantee I now know more about these laws than you do.

Section 129B

I fully realize that you seem to think you know more than everyone at USMB. However, you've already been corrected a few times on this thread. Man up!

I did. I actually READ and followed the links and dug up the law.. What have you done besides focusing on me.?
I'll do the work. And I learn.. That's why I'm still here at USMB..

 

[Pilot1]

Note that in all of this, though, the Constitution never explicitly ensures the right to vote, as it does the right to speech, for example. It does require that Representatives be chosen and Senators be elected by "the People," and who comprises "the People" has been expanded by the aforementioned amendments several times. Aside from these requirements, though, the qualifications for voters are left to the states. And as long as the qualifications do not conflict with anything in the Constitution, that right can be withheld.

https://usconstitution.net/constnot.html#vote

Yet, the Second Amendment specifically upholds our right to keep and bear arms, and it doesn't restrict the type of weapon.

 

[Flash]

Isn't it ironic that the state that first stood up to the government taking away the right to keep and bear arms is now the state doing the most to restrict the right to keep and bear arms?

A state full of morons that don't understand history.

 

[harmonica]

it's not about stopping ALL murders/etc..DUH
it's about cutting them down
every decent/common sense person wants to cut down murders--yes?

 

[Care4all]

Massachusetts 1.2% gun murder rate - one of the absolute lowest in the Nation.... maybe they know what is sensible laws for their own State?