Martin Luther King Jr and Obama share something in common

It may be a 'right' wing website but it is factually accurate. You may not like those facts but that doesn't change them.

You're just pissed cuz you got your ass handed to you.

Why did you lie about me? Why did you pretend that I'd said something I hadn't said? Why lie, Flail?

Rightwing and factually accurate don't fucking go together and your dumbass fucking ass has never read any of MLK's speeches, especially the ones in his later life after he began focusing on the Vietnam War and economic empowerment. The best you can come up with is some right slanted bullshit website that says MLk was a Republican eventhough everything he stood for was against conservative bullshit.



Wrong. Factually accurate is factually accurate - whatever source it comes from. And, unless you can actually prove that I have never read any of MLKs speeches - then, again, you are fucking lying.

Stop lying in order to try and score points off me. It doesn't work.

Wiki says King was GOP. Every fucking factually accurate history of King says he was a Republican. I know it's hard for you but it is a fact. A fact is a fact and no amount of whining, and hysteria will change it.

You say you embrace King's message. Well, you do not. You hate those who disagree with you. Kind didn't. King chose to be Christ-like in his opposition. He used reason and intellect to win people over to his message. You use hysteria, lies, untruths, inaccuracies and whining.


You have not a shred of evidence that MLK was a Republican, where is Charlie Bass when you need him? Again I ask you, how many of his speeches have you read? Do you know his positions of economics and wealth distribution in America? And MLK sure as hell wasn't not passive candy assed sissy that took shit from his enemies.
 
Rightwing and factually accurate don't fucking go together and your dumbass fucking ass has never read any of MLK's speeches, especially the ones in his later life after he began focusing on the Vietnam War and economic empowerment. The best you can come up with is some right slanted bullshit website that says MLk was a Republican eventhough everything he stood for was against conservative bullshit.



Wrong. Factually accurate is factually accurate - whatever source it comes from. And, unless you can actually prove that I have never read any of MLKs speeches - then, again, you are fucking lying.

Stop lying in order to try and score points off me. It doesn't work.

Wiki says King was GOP. Every fucking factually accurate history of King says he was a Republican. I know it's hard for you but it is a fact. A fact is a fact and no amount of whining, and hysteria will change it.

You say you embrace King's message. Well, you do not. You hate those who disagree with you. Kind didn't. King chose to be Christ-like in his opposition. He used reason and intellect to win people over to his message. You use hysteria, lies, untruths, inaccuracies and whining.


You have not a shred of evidence that MLK was a Republican, where is Charlie Bass when you need him? Again I ask you, how many of his speeches have you read? Do you know his positions of economics and wealth distribution in America? And MLK sure as hell wasn't not passive candy assed sissy that took shit from his enemies.

Are you actually stupid? Go look for yourself. The 'evidence' is on every historical record of MLK - he was - and his father before him - a Republican. That's a fact. Whining will not change it.

And, you didn't fucking ask me, you moron. You told me I hadn't read his speeches. I told you that was a ridiculous claim that you could not back up so now you pretend that you 'asked'. You are such a lying little POS, Flail.

MLK took his stance from Ghandhi. Non violent, intelligent, and calm. He knew how to change hearts and minds. It's a pity you don't. All you do is attack, lie, whine and lie some more.

Liar. Misogynist. Coward. Racist.
 
Wrong. Factually accurate is factually accurate - whatever source it comes from. And, unless you can actually prove that I have never read any of MLKs speeches - then, again, you are fucking lying.

Stop lying in order to try and score points off me. It doesn't work.

Wiki says King was GOP. Every fucking factually accurate history of King says he was a Republican. I know it's hard for you but it is a fact. A fact is a fact and no amount of whining, and hysteria will change it.

You say you embrace King's message. Well, you do not. You hate those who disagree with you. Kind didn't. King chose to be Christ-like in his opposition. He used reason and intellect to win people over to his message. You use hysteria, lies, untruths, inaccuracies and whining.


You have not a shred of evidence that MLK was a Republican, where is Charlie Bass when you need him? Again I ask you, how many of his speeches have you read? Do you know his positions of economics and wealth distribution in America? And MLK sure as hell wasn't not passive candy assed sissy that took shit from his enemies.

Are you actually stupid? Go look for yourself. The 'evidence' is on every historical record of MLK - he was - and his father before him - a Republican. That's a fact. Whining will not change it.

And, you didn't fucking ask me, you moron. You told me I hadn't read his speeches. I told you that was a ridiculous claim that you could not back up so now you pretend that you 'asked'. You are such a lying little POS, Flail.

MLK took his stance from Ghandhi. Non violent, intelligent, and calm. He knew how to change hearts and minds. It's a pity you don't. All you do is attack, lie, whine and lie some more.

Liar. Misogynist. Coward. Racist.


Yeah its on every historical record, so much so that there is no evidence that King was ever a registered Republican, that bullshit only appears on rightwing slanted sites.
 
California Girl claims to know plenty about MLK but the only thing she truly can come up with is this image that MLK was this passive, docile, wimpy type person who took people's shit on the shit with a smile, an image which is false if she really read his speeches and writings.
 
You're so hung up on race that you are incapable of rational thought.

And you are a liar.

And you are a misogynist.

And, according to your sig, you 'hate' people based on their political opinions - which, to me, is as ludicrous as hating someone based on their skin color. Moron.

Shut the fuck up and get out of here you annoying ass drama queen, my post was going deeper beyond race.

You're about as deep as an inflatable kiddie pool.
 
California Girl claims to know plenty about MLK but the only thing she truly can come up with is this image that MLK was this passive, docile, wimpy type person who took people's shit on the shit with a smile, an image which is false if she really read his speeches and writings.

Bullshit. Again.

Are you actually capable of telling the truth?

You tell me.... who were the main influences on King?
 
You're so hung up on race that you are incapable of rational thought.

And you are a liar.

And you are a misogynist.

And, according to your sig, you 'hate' people based on their political opinions - which, to me, is as ludicrous as hating someone based on their skin color. Moron.

Shut the fuck up and get out of here you annoying ass drama queen, my post was going deeper beyond race.

You're about as deep as an inflatable kiddie pool.

Flail will argue left is right and white is black... no matter how many times you prove him wrong, he just keeps on.... it's like he's stuck on stupid. Even actual, historical facts aren't acceptable.

More than that, he out and out lies about people. He actually claimed that I had told him that I loved him - last night. What a total and complete freak! Interestingly, when challenged to prove this remark.... he completely ignores it.... like 'I can't see it so it isn't there'... The guy is a rarity - even in the left - he is actually totally stupid.
 
I guess the question about who were the main influences on MLK is above the pay grade of Flail.

So, in order to educate Flail.... MLK was influenced by Jesus, Abraham Lincoln, Ghandhi, Thoreau, Tolstoy and Howard Thurman. His stance was always one of non-violence. That is not to accuse MLK of being docile or a coward. It takes great courage to meet violence with non-violence. Far from being the stance of a 'wimp', it is the mark of a hero. MLK was a genuine American Hero. And, the guy who claims to 'embrace MLK' is such a coward that he resorts to lying, sexism and racism to make a point. Shame.
 
Despite his rugged and extremely vulgar ways of putting things, Flaylo is right, none of you have demonstrated any knowledge about MLK beyond him being a black civil rights who was nonviolent. He wasn't just abou civil disobediance, marches and nonviolent passive *RESISTANCE* to racial oppression which exposed the blatant racist brutality against African Americans, he was radical and outspoken in his criticism of how America treats blacks and poor people. White people and even some blacks believe in this watered version of MLK, I have in fact myself read and listened to may of his speeches and sayings from his interviews and MLK wasn't solely just about a racial utopia of blacks and whites living together in harmony, he was far from a dreamer, he also understood the reality facing blacks and economically depressed people. I've posted this link before:

A New Sense of Direction (1968)

When white people want to remember MLK they don't want to remember that MLK seen in the text of that link.
 
I guess the question about who were the main influences on MLK is above the pay grade of Flail.

So, in order to educate Flail.... MLK was influenced by Jesus, Abraham Lincoln, Ghandhi, Thoreau, Tolstoy and Howard Thurman. His stance was always one of non-violence. That is not to accuse MLK of being docile or a coward. It takes great courage to meet violence with non-violence. Far from being the stance of a 'wimp', it is the mark of a hero. MLK was a genuine American Hero. And, the guy who claims to 'embrace MLK' is such a coward that he resorts to lying, sexism and racism to make a point. Shame.


Well so was Malcolm X, he was a hero, but Flaylo is correct in a sense, Malcolm X even said so himself. Malcolm X on MLK:

"I'll say nothing against him. At one time the whites in the United States called him a racialist, and extremist, and a Communist. Then the Black Muslims came along and the whites thanked the Lord for Martin Luther King."

Martin Luther King was also influenced by Malcolm X and some principles of black power as can be seen in this speech the night before he was killed:

Martin Luther King Speeches - I See the Promised Land - MLK Online



It's alright to talk about "long white robes over yonder," in all of its symbolism. But ultimately people want some suits and dresses and shoes to wear down here. It's alright to talk about "streets flowing with milk and honey," but God has commanded us to be concerned about the slums down here, and his children who can't eat three square meals a day. It's alright to talk about the new Jerusalem, but one day, God's preacher must talk about the New York, the new Atlanta, the new Philadelphia, the new Los Angeles, the new Memphis, Tennessee. This is what we have to do.

Now the other thing we'll have to do is this: Always anchor our external direct action with the power of economic withdrawal. Now, we are poor people, individually, we are poor when you compare us with white society in America. We are poor. Never stop and forget that collectively, that means all of us together, collectively we are richer than all the nation in the world, with the exception of nine. Did you ever think about that? After you leave the United States, Soviet Russia, Great Britain, West Germany, France, and I could name the others, the Negro collectively is richer than most nations of the world. We have an annual income of more than thirty billion dollars a year, which is more than all of the exports of the United States, and more than the national budget of Canada. Did you know that? That's power right there, if we know how to pool it.

We don't have to argue with anybody. We don't have to curse and go around acting bad with our words. We don't need any bricks and bottles, we don't need any Molotov cocktails, we just need to go around to these stores, and to these massive industries in our country, and say, "God sent us by here, to say to you that you're not treating his children right. And we've come by here to ask you to make the first item on your agenda--fair treatment, where God's children are concerned. Now, if you are not prepared to do that, we do have an agenda that we must follow. And our agenda calls for withdrawing economic support from you."

And so, as a result of this, we are asking you tonight, to go out and tell your neighbors not to buy Coca-Cola in Memphis. Go by and tell them not to buy Sealtest milk. Tell them not to buy--what is the other bread?--Wonder Bread. And what is the other bread company, Jesse? Tell them not to buy Hart's bread. As Jesse Jackson has said, up to now, only the garbage men have been feeling pain; now we must kind of redistribute the pain. We are choosing these companies because they haven't been fair in their hiring policies; and we are choosing them because they can begin the process of saying, they are going to support the needs and the rights of these men who are on strike. And then they can move on downtown and tell Mayor Loeb to do what is right.

But not only that, we've got to strengthen black institutions. I call upon you to take you money out of the banks downtown and deposit you money in Tri-State Bank--we want a "bank-in" movement in Memphis. So go by the savings and loan association. I'm not asking you something that we don't do ourselves at SCLC. Judge Hooks and others will tell you that we have an account here in the savings and loan association from the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. We're just telling you to follow what we're doing. Put your money there. You have six or seven black insurance companies in Memphis. Take out your insurance there. We want to have an "insurance-in."



I'll post more quotes.
 
Both Flaylo and Bass insult the memory of Dr. King.

They seem more in line with the approach of Samuel L. Jackson, or the New Black Panther Party than the teachings of Dr. King.

Like many of his time, Bass and Flaylo wish Dr. King had done things differently, so, since he's dead now, they just make shit up to fit their agenda.

He was a great man. He was a registered Republican. He died fighting for racial equality in the only way it can ever be achieved:

Peacefully.

And the two of you can do nothing more but try to make his legacy of peace and cooperation into something of hatred and skin color.

You are both racists of the worst kind.
 
Cali girl....

I bet if you tell him Lincoln was a Republican too, his head will explode :)
 
Both Flaylo and Bass insult the memory of Dr. King.

They seem more in line with the approach of Samuel L. Jackson, or the New Black Panther Party than the teachings of Dr. King.

Retard, I'm posting King's words from speeches he made himself but of course your retarded self only wants to see King one way and not his fullness and the reality is that before his death King was increasingly becoming more radical.

Like many of his time, Bass and Flaylo wish Dr. King had done things differently, so, since he's dead now, they just make shit up to fit their agenda.

Retard, don't put words in my mouth, I agree with any approach thats beneficial to helping black people, The Black Panther party of old, the NOI, Malcolm X, MLK, NAACP, SCLC, etc. Any organization and any approach to help black people I'm fully with it and since there were many black leaders with different approaches there's no need to wish MLK had done things differently.

He was a great man. He was a registered Republican. He died fighting for racial equality in the only way it can ever be achieved:

MLK was not a registered Republican idiot if he was where is the paperwork that shows this?

Peacefully.

And the two of you can do nothing more but try to make his legacy of peace and cooperation into something of hatred and skin color.

You are both racists of the worst kind.


Fact of the matter retard, you embrace only that image of MLK that has been marketed to America and ignore him and his words
 
Cali girl....

I bet if you tell him Lincoln was a Republican too, his head will explode :)


Monkey, what you fail to realize is that the Republican Party during the time of slavery were very liberal and more like today's Democrats and not conservatives so Lincoln was a Republican in name but not in philosophy, modern day Republicans forget these points when they go around bragging about all the good the Republican Party has done.
 
I guess the question about who were the main influences on MLK is above the pay grade of Flail.

So, in order to educate Flail.... MLK was influenced by Jesus, Abraham Lincoln, Ghandhi, Thoreau, Tolstoy and Howard Thurman. His stance was always one of non-violence. That is not to accuse MLK of being docile or a coward. It takes great courage to meet violence with non-violence. Far from being the stance of a 'wimp', it is the mark of a hero. MLK was a genuine American Hero. And, the guy who claims to 'embrace MLK' is such a coward that he resorts to lying, sexism and racism to make a point. Shame.


Well so was Malcolm X, he was a hero, but Flaylo is correct in a sense, Malcolm X even said so himself. Malcolm X on MLK:

"I'll say nothing against him. At one time the whites in the United States called him a racialist, and extremist, and a Communist. Then the Black Muslims came along and the whites thanked the Lord for Martin Luther King."

Martin Luther King was also influenced by Malcolm X and some principles of black power as can be seen in this speech the night before he was killed:

Martin Luther King Speeches - I See the Promised Land - MLK Online



It's alright to talk about "long white robes over yonder," in all of its symbolism. But ultimately people want some suits and dresses and shoes to wear down here. It's alright to talk about "streets flowing with milk and honey," but God has commanded us to be concerned about the slums down here, and his children who can't eat three square meals a day. It's alright to talk about the new Jerusalem, but one day, God's preacher must talk about the New York, the new Atlanta, the new Philadelphia, the new Los Angeles, the new Memphis, Tennessee. This is what we have to do.

Now the other thing we'll have to do is this: Always anchor our external direct action with the power of economic withdrawal. Now, we are poor people, individually, we are poor when you compare us with white society in America. We are poor. Never stop and forget that collectively, that means all of us together, collectively we are richer than all the nation in the world, with the exception of nine. Did you ever think about that? After you leave the United States, Soviet Russia, Great Britain, West Germany, France, and I could name the others, the Negro collectively is richer than most nations of the world. We have an annual income of more than thirty billion dollars a year, which is more than all of the exports of the United States, and more than the national budget of Canada. Did you know that? That's power right there, if we know how to pool it.

We don't have to argue with anybody. We don't have to curse and go around acting bad with our words. We don't need any bricks and bottles, we don't need any Molotov cocktails, we just need to go around to these stores, and to these massive industries in our country, and say, "God sent us by here, to say to you that you're not treating his children right. And we've come by here to ask you to make the first item on your agenda--fair treatment, where God's children are concerned. Now, if you are not prepared to do that, we do have an agenda that we must follow. And our agenda calls for withdrawing economic support from you."

And so, as a result of this, we are asking you tonight, to go out and tell your neighbors not to buy Coca-Cola in Memphis. Go by and tell them not to buy Sealtest milk. Tell them not to buy--what is the other bread?--Wonder Bread. And what is the other bread company, Jesse? Tell them not to buy Hart's bread. As Jesse Jackson has said, up to now, only the garbage men have been feeling pain; now we must kind of redistribute the pain. We are choosing these companies because they haven't been fair in their hiring policies; and we are choosing them because they can begin the process of saying, they are going to support the needs and the rights of these men who are on strike. And then they can move on downtown and tell Mayor Loeb to do what is right.

But not only that, we've got to strengthen black institutions. I call upon you to take you money out of the banks downtown and deposit you money in Tri-State Bank--we want a "bank-in" movement in Memphis. So go by the savings and loan association. I'm not asking you something that we don't do ourselves at SCLC. Judge Hooks and others will tell you that we have an account here in the savings and loan association from the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. We're just telling you to follow what we're doing. Put your money there. You have six or seven black insurance companies in Memphis. Take out your insurance there. We want to have an "insurance-in."



I'll post more quotes.


Malcolm X was an ass.

MLK promoted non-violence, civil disobedience and peaceful protests. When his niece was arrested for striking back, he and her father let her spend the night in jail to learn her lesson. That is why MLK is remembered as he is, and why Malcolm is not.
 
Cali girl....

I bet if you tell him Lincoln was a Republican too, his head will explode :)


Monkey, what you fail to realize is that the Republican Party during the time of slavery were very liberal and more like today's Democrats and not conservatives so Lincoln was a Republican in name but not in philosophy, modern day Republicans forget these points when they go around bragging about all the good the Republican Party has done.

And King was a Republican. Flail judges the Republicans with his own racist opinion - wishing all conservatives, republicans and tea baggers to burn in hell. What a charming individual. What a great example of a black (or mixed race) man he is. Doesn't matter about the individual - if you're a conservative, you burn in hell. Sorry, Charlie, you can defend the guy from now till hell freezes over but he is hoisted by his own petard.

King followed the example of Ghandi. According to Flail, that means he's a wimp. On the contrary... Ghandi was one of the greatest individuals ever to walk this planet. The world is a better place because of his example. And the same is true of Martin Luther King. They are giants among us.

And, lest we forget, the Democrats lay claim to old school Republicans and great Democrats.... and they are not the party that Kennedy knew. They are not the party that MLK knew. They are not the owners of the moral highground. They use minorities for votes - they don't give a crap about individual blacks or any other minority. Conservatives do. We want to give them the tools to stand on their own two feet and be our equal - not our 'pet project'.
 
Malcolm X was an ass.

Excuse me, Malcolm X was not ass, he was the greatest black leader blacks ever had and spoke nothing but the truth, just because he believed in self defense against white mob violence doesn't make him ass. Malcolm X was not in favor of violence, he was in favor of self defense, interesting that you call Malcolm X an ass for advocating self defense but not the white mobs who attacked blacks.

MLK promoted non-violence, civil disobedience and peaceful protests. When his niece was arrested for striking back, he and her father let her spend the night in jail to learn her lesson. That is why MLK is remembered as he is, and why Malcolm is not.

You ignorant as hell CG, you need to learn the difference between self defense and passive resistance, neither one is greater or worse than the other Both non-violent civil disobedience and advocation of self defense while seeking civil rights are both confrontational . Malcolm X is remembered very well by black people, MLK is only like more by white people because they've chosen to embrace and market a distorted version of MLK that doesn't scare them. Both Malcolm X and MLK were radicals with different approaches to solving the same problem and they both gradually began to move closer to each other but you're uneducated to know this.
 
Cali girl....

I bet if you tell him Lincoln was a Republican too, his head will explode :)


Monkey, what you fail to realize is that the Republican Party during the time of slavery were very liberal and more like today's Democrats and not conservatives so Lincoln was a Republican in name but not in philosophy, modern day Republicans forget these points when they go around bragging about all the good the Republican Party has done.

And King was a Republican. Flail judges the Republicans with his own racist opinion - wishing all conservatives, republicans and tea baggers to burn in hell. What a charming individual. What a great example of a black (or mixed race) man he is. Doesn't matter about the individual - if you're a conservative, you burn in hell. Sorry, Charlie, you can defend the guy from now till hell freezes over but he is hoisted by his own petard.

King followed the example of Ghandi. According to Flail, that means he's a wimp. On the contrary... Ghandi was one of the greatest individuals ever to walk this planet. The world is a better place because of his example. And the same is true of Martin Luther King. They are giants among us.

And, lest we forget, the Democrats lay claim to old school Republicans and great Democrats.... and they are not the party that Kennedy knew. They are not the party that MLK knew. They are not the owners of the moral highground. They use minorities for votes - they don't give a crap about individual blacks or any other minority. Conservatives do. We want to give them the tools to stand on their own two feet and be our equal - not our 'pet project'.


MLK was not a damn registered Republican, you need to quit repeating that lie. During his lifetime MLK never formally registered with any political party. I don't agree with everything Flaylo says but I do agree with him when he says MLK was not a Republican neither was was he a Democrat and I wish the Republicans would stop trying to claim MLK's legacy as their own as he was *NOT* politically conservative. That wiki article you keep citing has no citation backing the claim that MLK's father was a Black republican and as wiki artzicles can be altered by anyone that statement is unreliable and unfounded.

And don't give me that jive that MLK was so good because he was nonviolent like Gandhi because your Republican Party are not nonviolent people and sent this country to war which is something that MLK opposes. MLK's nonviolent strategy worked because of the advent of modern television that broadcast live footage of whites committing violence against blacks, and it was the right thing to do under those special circumstances but you're retarded if you think people shouldn't defend themselves against violence. You like MLK because of his advocation of nonviolence resistance, not because of his total legacy.


I unlike King fully support self defense against violence, the real "asses" are those who attacked people who peacefully and nonviolently marched for civil rights, not the people who advocated self defense which you see as evil if its black people defending themselves against white mob violence.
 
Dr King was a communist? Oh brother, now I HAVE heard it all.

In the 1950s and 60s MLK was unjustly called a Communist and racist, yes he was and the accusations had no truth to them but that didn't stop the FBI from spying on MLK with wiretaps.
 

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