Marriage vs civil unions, the real deal.

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  1. Flaylo
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    All legal marriage for all intents and purposes are "civil unions" for all intents and purposes because they are strictly about legal rights, they don't "symbolize" in any legal sense, if gays want a "marriage" that symbolizes such they can have their own private wedding and still have a civil union for legal purposes. Civil unions give gays the same legal and property rights as those in a "marriage" so gays are not being denied any rights and being treated as second class, their argument is simply a game of semantics because they say cthe term civil union connotes something that isn't loving or "based" in love, well the government cannot legislate anything to make people feel "loved" that is up to individual couples to feel. The gay argument is completely horseshat, marriages don't legally symbolize love, they are simply about legal, power of attorney and property rights, things that are civil.
     
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    Here's the real deal... Marriage is a normal thing. Civil unions are queer.
     
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    Then you support the time and effort to change all legal documents, laws, statutes etc....replacing the words "married" and "marriage" with "civil unioned" and "civil union".
     
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    gays have all the same legal right under a civil union that opposite sex couples get under a "marriage" so they have no legal argument of second class treatment and i don't care about that love part, thats betweenthe couples and it is not the job and role of government to make laws or legally sanction something to make people feel "loved." This is a semantics game, not an argument for equal rights rights.
     
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    This actually makes sense.
    Take the Government out of the "marriage" business. Government would only recognize Civil Unions. Marriage would become a strictly religious union. Religions (as they do now) could perform ceremonies for whomever they choose.
     
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    So what is it that you want? A law that states gay couples cannot claim they are married?

    bwahahahahaha!
     
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    Fine, but what's the problem with them calling it a marriage? You don't seem to be addressing the basic problem.
     
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    Then why do want to keep playing the semantics game? If there's no difference, why are you sticking your nose in somebody else's business? If I want to call my marriage "a friendly merger", who are you to say different?
     
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    We are talking changing ALL legal documentation so ALL civil, legal unions are called "civil unions" while all religious marriages are called "marriage."

    You're on board for that, right?
     
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    Well, he's too late for that. We and 18,000 other gay couples are married civilly in CA, and we and thousands of others are married religiously. Not even looking at NY, MA, etc.
     

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