Marijuana is a gateway drug

[MikeK]

Frankly, I can't imagine a person who is legally obtaining pot, and enjoying the experience, having the energy to get up off of his ass and pursue anything else...but, I'm getting away from my point, aren't I?

You seem to have a preconceived impression of marijuana users in general. But your impression ignores the many millions of perfectly productive people who prefer the occasional use of marijuana to the more socially acceptable six-pack or shots of Jack Daniels -- the main difference between the two substances being marijuana never killed anyone, never made anyone sick, nor has it ever induced violent behavior.

It appears that your impression of marijuana users is based on a few really negative stereotypes you know or have observed, so I respectfully suggest that you've been looking in the wrong places.

 

[fyauthor]

in itself is much more powerfull than the stuf in the 60s

was mostly latent from the 40/50s then it reemerged due to lib degeneracy

see Reefer Madness

Actually, alcohol is THE gateway drug. It leads to marijuana. Of all the people I have known who smoked pot, alcohol was their first experiment with drugs. Do you or have you ever smoked pot? If so, did you smoke pot or drink alcohol first?

I am 78, I am a tap dancer that youngsters come to watch and learn. I have never been seriously sick in my entire adult life, or hospitalized. I smoked pot since I was 14, as I started smoking pot at 9, drinking at 11, but I am not a drunk. I quite smoking cigarettes in 1978; pot cured my glaucoma, and now my eye pressure is normal!

PEACE & LOVE!

 

[MikeK]

There must have been a reason marijuana was outlawed in the 1930s - you can laugh at Reefer Madness all you want -but there must have been a reason............................

There was a reason and its name is corporate greed.

William Randolph Hearst controlled a newpaper empire in the early 1930s, at a time when the only known method of mass producing paper was to pulverize timber. So shortly after Hearst invested very heavily in timber resources a method of making a superior quality paper from processing fiber from the hemp plant, which is the first cousin of the cannabis (marijuana) plant, was discovered and posed a serious threat to Hearst's timber and paper mill investments.

Briefly stated, Hearst used his considerable political influence to appoint his son-in-law, Harry Anslinger, as the first federal drug agent and he managed to have marijuana made illegal, which included prohibition of the hemp plant, in 1937. If you wish to know all of the details do a Google search with keywords; "Hearst - Anslinger." Better yet, pick up a copy of Jack Herer's acclaimed book, The Emperor Wears No Clothes. You'll get an education.

Two other powerful corporate entities which would be negatively affected if marijuana were legal are the liquor and the pharmaceutical industries, because marijuana has many useful medical applications and when the general public realized that it is superior to alcohol in every way as a recreational drug the booze industry will suffer significant losses.

 

[fyauthor]

I started smoking cigarettes at 9, drinking at 11, and smoking pot at 14. I am not an alcoholic, I quit smoking cigarettes IN 1978, pot cured my glaucoma and now my eye pressure is normal. I have never been hospitalize or seriously ill in my entire life. I am a tap dancer at 78 in a club where youngsters come to learn and tap dance. Life is good!

PEACE & LOVE

 

[Sheldon]

Are you talking about that crack in your ass?

wow you'r the gayest poster here.

You're the one trying to smoke what comes out of a Mexican's ass.

Oh wow, if ever there was an argument against legalization, that's it. Because we all know TexMex schwagg is smuggled via rectal dime-bags.

 

[MikeK]

I couldn't be more for the freemarket if you put a gun to my head.

The only reason I don't fully support the legalization of pot is b/c we will still have other illegal drugs. If you are going to allow one, you must allow the others or we are just doing it for political points and not striking a blow for freedom.

You really should give this issue more thought and do some research. You need to understand that placing marijuana in a category with such substances as heroin, amphetamine, cocaine, etc., all of which are addictive and debilitating, is analogous to comparing the common cold with cancer. There is no comparison.

Marijana is not addictive. There is no record in the annals of medical science to show that anyone ever died, or "overdosed," or was made sick from using marijuana. Please research this and learn the truth. Marijuana has been persecuted. All of the negative things you have heard about it are lies -- lies which have been well financed by a number of powerful industries which will suffer losses if marijuana is made legal.

 

[MikeK]

I am 78, I am a tap dancer that youngsters come to watch and learn. I have never been seriously sick in my entire adult life, or hospitalized. I smoked pot since I was 14, as I started smoking pot at 9, drinking at 11, but I am not a drunk. I quite smoking cigarettes in 1978; pot cured my glaucoma, and now my eye pressure is normal!

PEACE & LOVE!

You're 78, I'm 74. I'm not a tap-dancer but I do get around as well as anyone and what we have in common is we're a couple of old "potheads" who put the lie to all the nonsense put forth about how bad marijuana is. I wonder how many geriatric tokers are out there but prefer to keep it quiet. I know of a couple more back in Brooklyn and both are getting around pretty good.

There is an organization of law enforcement professionals (L.E.A.P.), from ordinary patrolmen to criminal court judges, who advocate for marijuana legalization. Maybe there should be an organization called, Old Farts Against Prohibition to let people know we can still kick some ass so it hasn't done us any harm.

 

[Father Time]

I am 78, I am a tap dancer that youngsters come to watch and learn. I have never been seriously sick in my entire adult life, or hospitalized. I smoked pot since I was 14, as I started smoking pot at 9, drinking at 11, but I am not a drunk. I quite smoking cigarettes in 1978; pot cured my glaucoma, and now my eye pressure is normal!

PEACE & LOVE!

You're 78, I'm 74. I'm not a tap-dancer but I do get around as well as anyone and what we have in common is we're a couple of old "potheads" who put the lie to all the nonsense put forth about how bad marijuana is. I wonder how many geriatric tokers are out there but prefer to keep it quiet. I know of a couple more back in Brooklyn and both are getting around pretty good.

There is an organization of law enforcement professionals (L.E.A.P.), from ordinary patrolmen to criminal court judges, who advocate for marijuana legalization. Maybe there should be an organization called, Old Farts Against Prohibition to let people know we can still kick some ass so it hasn't done us any harm.

OFAP? Sounds like a porno series.

 

[ABikerSailor]

in itself is much more powerfull than the stuf in the 60s

was mostly latent from the 40/50s then it reemerged due to lib degeneracy

see Reefer Madness

Grow a brain before posting like this n00b. By the way, "powerful" has only 1 "l", and "stuff" has 2 "f's". Are you dyslexic?

Why was marijuana made illegal? Simple.....some racist prick who worked for the FBI didn't like the brown or black people. He was looking for a way to legally put them in jail based on their race. One of the things that he'd noticed was the 2 largest sectors of the population who were regular users of cannabis were Hispanics and Afro-Americans, so, in order to lock up the brown and black folk, he made cannabis illegal.

Oh yeah......to help sell his plan, he enlisted the help of Hurst (who was a publisher and already had tree farms so he didn't want to use hemp paper), as well as the people who founded Dow chemical company (up to this point they were simply an explosives producer, and with the advent of oil, they didn't want to lose their new thing in plastics).

After he'd gotten all the money together, he went to Hollyweird and asked them to make a movie that would scare the crap out of all the good white folks to keep them away from smoking marijuana, and volia! Reefer Madness was born........

Reefer Madness (aka Tell Your Children) is a well known 1938 American exploitation film revolving around the tragic events that ensue when high school students are lured by pushers to try "marihuana": a hit and run accident, manslaughter, suicide, attempted rape, and descent into madness all ensue. The film was directed by Louis Gasnier and starred a cast composed of mostly unknown bit actors. It was originally financed by a church group and made under the title Tell Your Children.[1][2]

The film was intended to be shown to parents as a morality tale attempting to teach them about the dangers of cannabis use.[1] However, soon after the film was shot, it was purchased by producer Dwain Esper, who re-cut the film for distribution on the exploitation film circuit.[1] The film did not gain an audience until it was rediscovered in the 1970s and gained new life as a piece of unintentional comedy among cannabis smokers.[1][3] Today, it is in the public domain in the United States and is considered a cult film.[3] It inspired a musical satire, which premiered off-Broadway in 2001, and a Showtime film, Reefer Madness, based on the musical.

Reefer Madness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Probably one of the largest pieces of government propaganda ever created......

Interestingly enough, during the 60's, the US Government used soldiers to run tests on cannabis to see exactly how it affected people. Most of the tests proved to be favorable for use.

In the 70's, Richard Nixon commissioned a report on marijuana to find out the effects. When the report came back FAVORABLE, Nixon threw the whole thing into the trash.

Interestingly enough, Ronald Reagan suffered from Alzheimer's while he was president. He was also responsible for the "just say no" campaign and the war on drugs. Too bad he didn't know that cannabis has been proven by places like Harvard Medical and the Royal British Medical Society to actually help slow down the progression of that disease. It's also been proven to help with chemotherapy for cancer patients, as well as other beneficial effects.

Incidentally, I've served 20 years in the US Navy, and am now retired. During the last 8 years of my career, I decided to become a Drug and Alcohol Program Advisor (DAPA), which meant that I was expected to know the signs and effects of various substances that sailors have been caught doing. During that time, with all the research that I could find, nowhere could I find anything wrong with pot. It's non addictive (although some people will talk psychological addiction, but you can become psychologically addicted to people, food, pets, etc., so that is a non starter), and has been proven to be a benefit.

Additionally, not only do you harvest the buds to smoke, but you can also use the plants to make stuff like fiberglass (Canada grows hemp and Corvette makes their car bodies out of hemp fiberglass now), clothing, biofuel, and food, so you've got a plant that will do many things at once.

After I'd been retired for a while, I was offered the opportunity to try it for myself (remember, up to this time I'd never done anything but drink beer), and I did. I found it to be enjoyable with little to no after effects. I could smoke like crazy the night before, but when I woke up the next morning, I was bright eyed and bushy tailed, ready to go. If I'd done the same thing the night before with a 12 pack? I'd be useless until around 11:00 am.

The reason that cannabis is currently illegal? Because idiots in Washington are almost as stupid as you and believe the old reefer madness crap.

By the way........in the Bible, God told both Adam and Moses when He talked to them "if it grows out of the ground, you may have it". Cannabis was also one of the ingredients of the Holy Anointing Oil of the Kings of Israel. There is even archaeological evidence that the Jews (God's Chosen People), used it medicinally as well as casual everyday use. Simcha Jacobovich (History Channel's Naked Archaeologist) did a show on it once.

As far as cocoa leaves? Well.......my personal opinion is that chewing cocoa leaves is okay, because all the chlorophyll and other plant stuff is left in. It's only when you remove the active ingredient (cocaine) and separate it unto itself, that it should only be used under the supervision of a doctor.

Or.........think of it this way.........the plant materials and chlorophyll are kinda like safety valves, and if you remove them but leave only the drug? It's dangerous like removing all the safety valves off of your hot water heater and then plugging it in. Know what happens?

It explodes. Kinda like what your heart does when you use coke.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Very few educated people are for the war on drugs, we have two morons here that are. One lives in the projects.

let me guess.....oh no....not our favorite bigot....

 

[Gadawg73]

In the original MASH movie, most TV runs have cut it out, it shows the semi pro Army football team playing the MASH unit. It shows some of the players on the Army team passing a twisty on the bench during the game.
That is the reality of the real world then and now. Not during the game of course as that was for the movies but I knew many a player that used it in college. Does more good for aching body than anything.

 

[topspin]

there's a blog the Atlantic runs called Cannabis Closet, where all types of professional people talk about the benefit of herb and thier closet experience.

 

[Mr. Jones]

in itself is much more powerfull than the stuf in the 60s

was mostly latent from the 40/50s then it reemerged due to lib degeneracy

see Reefer Madness

Why is Marijuana Illegal? Because of 2 men; William Randolf Hearst and Harry J. Anslinger

Why is Marijuana Illegal? - Drug WarRant


Greed
Marijuana's potential for producing inexpensive paper made the timber industry nervous, and budding technologies--which put hemp into the competition for synthetic fibers, cellophane, methanol, super-strength plastics, paint, medicines, textiles, ship sails and foods--prompted tycoons who faced billions of dollars in subsequent losses to initiate fear campaigns (spreading claims of insanity and murder) and to lobby for the plant's prohibition.

Racism
In the 1920s and 1930s, marijuana was attacked by spreading fears of falling of collapsing barriers between blacks and whites. The federal narcotics division leader, Harry Anslinger, initiated a campaign to put marijuana at the center of interracial dating and dancing, citing marijuana's popularity in racially mixed jazz clubs.

Prejudice against Mexicans was also exploited by connecting Mexican immigrants--representing cheap labor during the Depression--to the marijuana scene and by renaming hemp as marijuana.

Ignorance
Many Americans believed that marijuana was a violent narcotic in the company of opiates, and people feared that it fomented criminal acts and psychosis. Harry Anslinger was pivotal in proliferating stories of brutal crimes and sexual predation resulting from marijuana use.

Renewed Legalization of Alcohol
Many careers existed to maintain Prohibition, and banning marijuana provided the hope of continuing employment when it was repealed. The Federal Bureau of Narcotics, established in 1930, represented this job security, particularly if widely-used marijuana was added to the list of illegal substances

Why Was Marijuana Made Illegal in the USA? | Trails.com

Link to another thread on same topic...
http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...ug-use-in-2009-government-report-says-13.html

It took 4-5 pages of responses before this guy nailed the real reason why Hemp, Marijuana is illegal. You are correct, like always it's all about the money, and business interests. Gateway drug, reefer madness my ass. Most people start on the road to drug addiction by taking their first alcoholic drink at a young age.

 

[Bullfighter]

[
; pot cured my glaucoma, and now my eye pressure is normal!

!

But are you sure what you think you are seeing is real?

 

[MikeK]

[
; pot cured my glaucoma, and now my eye pressure is normal!

!

But are you sure what you think you are seeing is real?

Time to put you on my Ignore list and save space.

Goodbye.

 

[ABikerSailor]

[
; pot cured my glaucoma, and now my eye pressure is normal!

!

But are you sure what you think you are seeing is real?

What he sees is much more real than what you see after having drank all that teabagger kool-aid.

Try again Bullshitter, we know your diaper is full of shit.

 

[Harry Dresden]

[
; pot cured my glaucoma, and now my eye pressure is normal!

!

But are you sure what you think you are seeing is real?

Time to put you on my Ignore list and save space.

Goodbye.

whats this ignore shit?....."i dont like what your posting so i will put you on ignore".....the guy being put on ignore wins.....

 

[Bullfighter]

[What he sees is much more real than what you see after having drank all that teabagger kool-aid.

Try again Bullshitter, we know your diaper is full of shit.

And we all know you would roll that diaper up and try to smoke it.

 

[fyauthor]

I am 78, I am a tap dancer that youngsters come to watch and learn. I have never been seriously sick in my entire adult life, or hospitalized. I smoked pot since I was 14, as I started smoking pot at 9, drinking at 11, but I am not a drunk. I quite smoking cigarettes in 1978; pot cured my glaucoma, and now my eye pressure is normal!

PEACE & LOVE!

You're 78, I'm 74. I'm not a tap-dancer but I do get around as well as anyone and what we have in common is we're a couple of old "potheads" who put the lie to all the nonsense put forth about how bad marijuana is. I wonder how many geriatric tokers are out there but prefer to keep it quiet. I know of a couple more back in Brooklyn and both are getting around pretty good.

There is an organization of law enforcement professionals (L.E.A.P.), from ordinary patrolmen to criminal court judges, who advocate for marijuana legalization. Maybe there should be an organization called, Old Farts Against Prohibition to let people know we can still kick some ass so it hasn't done us any harm.

Thank you!

If I lived in California I would tell all dark folks to vote to legalize pot to stop dark kids from being arrested for a drug that has little consequence for that alone would save thousands if not millions of dark kids from having their lives limited by a rap sheet. I suggest that Mexicans, Latinos, Asians, and African-Americans to vote yes on proposition 8! Forget ideology and look at results and consequence for the sake of our youth!

 

[topspin]

beer is the gateway drug