Mann and Ornstein: Let’s just say it - The Republicans ARE the problem

[Old Rocks]

The best thing to happen to the nation is for democrats to start taking action to rid the country of evil republicans. They have voter registration rolls, they can start the arrests any time they want. They are moving to that direction, almost to a point where they have no choice.

 

[Two Thumbs]

When liberals get everything they demand, and not an inch less, reps saw the light of thier evil ways.

When libs only get part of they want, reps are just being evil.

When reps don't give an inch, like dems, they are just evul evul evul

when dems don't give an inch, and they ever fucking ever do, it's all good.



Liberals, w/o lies and hate, you have nothing.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

We have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than 40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional. In our past writings, we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. Today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the Republican Party.

The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.

Of course, there were larger forces at work beyond the realignment of the South. They included the mobilization of social conservatives after the 1973Roe v. Wade decision, the anti-tax movement launched in 1978 by California’s Proposition 13, the rise of conservative talk radio after a congressional pay raise in 1989, and the emergence of Fox News and right-wing blogs. But the real move to the bedrock right starts with two names: Newt Gingrich and Grover Norquist.

Norquist, meanwhile, founded Americans for Tax Reform in 1985 and rolled out his Taxpayer Protection Pledge the following year. The pledge, which binds its signers to never support a tax increase (that includes closing tax loopholes), had been signed as of last year by 238 of the 242 House Republicans and 41 of the 47 GOP senators, according to ATR. The Norquist tax pledge has led to other pledges, on issues such as climate change, that create additional litmus tests that box in moderates and make cross-party coalitions nearly impossible. For Republicans concerned about a primary challenge from the right, the failure to sign such pledges is simply too risky.

Let’s just say it: The Republicans are the problem. - The Washington Post

It's nice to see what we've all been talking about put into words in such a descriptive and logical manner.

Pledging to Norquist over the constitution. What a shame.

You think that rant is descriptive and logical?

 

[Old Rocks]

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Hmm..............

 

[Old Rocks]

We have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than 40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional. In our past writings, we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. Today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the Republican Party.

The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.

Of course, there were larger forces at work beyond the realignment of the South. They included the mobilization of social conservatives after the 1973Roe v. Wade decision, the anti-tax movement launched in 1978 by California’s Proposition 13, the rise of conservative talk radio after a congressional pay raise in 1989, and the emergence of Fox News and right-wing blogs. But the real move to the bedrock right starts with two names: Newt Gingrich and Grover Norquist.

Norquist, meanwhile, founded Americans for Tax Reform in 1985 and rolled out his Taxpayer Protection Pledge the following year. The pledge, which binds its signers to never support a tax increase (that includes closing tax loopholes), had been signed as of last year by 238 of the 242 House Republicans and 41 of the 47 GOP senators, according to ATR. The Norquist tax pledge has led to other pledges, on issues such as climate change, that create additional litmus tests that box in moderates and make cross-party coalitions nearly impossible. For Republicans concerned about a primary challenge from the right, the failure to sign such pledges is simply too risky.

Let’s just say it: The Republicans are the problem. - The Washington Post

It's nice to see what we've all been talking about put into words in such a descriptive and logical manner.

Pledging to Norquist over the constitution. What a shame.

You think that rant is descriptive and logical?

Certainly. It shows the GOP will not give an inch in protecting the tax breaks for the very rich.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.

stopped reading right there..but right up Rdeans alley
and who the hell is Mann and Orenstein?

Don't you ever bother to look anything up on your own? Do you always have to be spoon fed? When I respond to Republican's links, I go read them. I check out their facts. That's how I'm able to come up with "real facts". In fact, many times I have to correct Republicans on this very site. They post a link and then imagine what it says. I'm always asking if they read their own link. Seems like most of the time they haven't bothered. They just go by the title.

You don't read your own links, if you did you would be laughing so hard you couldn't post.

Tell me something, why don't these two left wingers take the time to point out how the Democrats continue to move toward the left, going out of their way to eliminate the moderate Blue Dogs? A single paragraph does not do the story justice.

Pennsylvania Primary: Blue Dog Democrats Lose Seats

Why don't they point out how the left wing Democrats in the Senate haven't passed a budget in over 3 years, and how those same moderate Blue Dogs that are being ousted from the party are endorsing a No Budget, No Pay Act?

Blue Dogs Endorse No Budget, No Pay Act | Blue Dog Coalition

Why don't they point out how the Democratic Party is so bad that long time Democrats are switching parties?

Blue Dogs Endorse No Budget, No Pay Act | Blue Dog Coalition

Why don't they talk about how Lieberman was forced out of the Democratic Party because he supported the war in Iraq?

I could go on all night. I would say you get the point, but I know you don't. That doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of people who do get the point.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

We have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than 40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional. In our past writings, we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. Today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the Republican Party.

The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.

Of course, there were larger forces at work beyond the realignment of the South. They included the mobilization of social conservatives after the 1973Roe v. Wade decision, the anti-tax movement launched in 1978 by California’s Proposition 13, the rise of conservative talk radio after a congressional pay raise in 1989, and the emergence of Fox News and right-wing blogs. But the real move to the bedrock right starts with two names: Newt Gingrich and Grover Norquist.

Norquist, meanwhile, founded Americans for Tax Reform in 1985 and rolled out his Taxpayer Protection Pledge the following year. The pledge, which binds its signers to never support a tax increase (that includes closing tax loopholes), had been signed as of last year by 238 of the 242 House Republicans and 41 of the 47 GOP senators, according to ATR. The Norquist tax pledge has led to other pledges, on issues such as climate change, that create additional litmus tests that box in moderates and make cross-party coalitions nearly impossible. For Republicans concerned about a primary challenge from the right, the failure to sign such pledges is simply too risky.

Let’s just say it: The Republicans are the problem. - The Washington Post

It's nice to see what we've all been talking about put into words in such a descriptive and logical manner.

Pledging to Norquist over the constitution. What a shame.

You think that rant is descriptive and logical?

Certainly. It shows the GOP will not give an inch in protecting the tax breaks for the very rich.

We will get a chance to see how that works out real soon. I doubt you will learn anything when France raises taxes and loses money, but I will still be able to rub your face in the fact that it doesn't work.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.

Of course, there were larger forces at work beyond the realignment of the South. They included the mobilization of social conservatives after the 1973Roe v. Wade decision, the anti-tax movement launched in 1978 by California’s Proposition 13, the rise of conservative talk radio after a congressional pay raise in 1989, and the emergence of Fox News and right-wing blogs. But the real move to the bedrock right starts with two names: Newt Gingrich and Grover Norquist.

And it’s this radical extremism and blind adherence to rightist dogma which poses the greatest threat to our Nation.

Today, thanks to the GOP, compromise has gone out the window in Washington. In the first two years of the Obama administration, nearly every presidential initiative met with vehement, rancorous and unanimous Republican opposition in the House and the Senate, followed by efforts to delegitimize the results and repeal the policies.

And hence nothing gets done.

That’s why republicans sound (more) like idiots when they claim Obama is ‘ruining the country.’

 

[Mad Scientist]

Let's just say it: There are NO differences between the two parties.

 

[rdean]

We have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than 40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional. In our past writings, we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. Today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the Republican Party.

The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.

Of course, there were larger forces at work beyond the realignment of the South. They included the mobilization of social conservatives after the 1973Roe v. Wade decision, the anti-tax movement launched in 1978 by California’s Proposition 13, the rise of conservative talk radio after a congressional pay raise in 1989, and the emergence of Fox News and right-wing blogs. But the real move to the bedrock right starts with two names: Newt Gingrich and Grover Norquist.

Norquist, meanwhile, founded Americans for Tax Reform in 1985 and rolled out his Taxpayer Protection Pledge the following year. The pledge, which binds its signers to never support a tax increase (that includes closing tax loopholes), had been signed as of last year by 238 of the 242 House Republicans and 41 of the 47 GOP senators, according to ATR. The Norquist tax pledge has led to other pledges, on issues such as climate change, that create additional litmus tests that box in moderates and make cross-party coalitions nearly impossible. For Republicans concerned about a primary challenge from the right, the failure to sign such pledges is simply too risky.

Let’s just say it: The Republicans are the problem. - The Washington Post

It's nice to see what we've all been talking about put into words in such a descriptive and logical manner.

Pledging to Norquist over the constitution. What a shame.

You think that rant is descriptive and logical?

Rant? Which part isn't true?

 

[rdean]

stopped reading right there..but right up Rdeans alley
and who the hell is Mann and Orenstein?

I stopped reading because it was obviously not his writing!

I didn't read it at all. My bad. I'd rather watch paint dry than read his repetitive ranting.

Only the delusional think they can learn without bothering to read anything. If it's not true, wouldn't it make more sense to "educate" those who would benefit from your vast store of knowledge and experience?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

We have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than 40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional. In our past writings, we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. Today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the Republican Party.

The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.

Of course, there were larger forces at work beyond the realignment of the South. They included the mobilization of social conservatives after the 1973Roe v. Wade decision, the anti-tax movement launched in 1978 by California’s Proposition 13, the rise of conservative talk radio after a congressional pay raise in 1989, and the emergence of Fox News and right-wing blogs. But the real move to the bedrock right starts with two names: Newt Gingrich and Grover Norquist.

Norquist, meanwhile, founded Americans for Tax Reform in 1985 and rolled out his Taxpayer Protection Pledge the following year. The pledge, which binds its signers to never support a tax increase (that includes closing tax loopholes), had been signed as of last year by 238 of the 242 House Republicans and 41 of the 47 GOP senators, according to ATR. The Norquist tax pledge has led to other pledges, on issues such as climate change, that create additional litmus tests that box in moderates and make cross-party coalitions nearly impossible. For Republicans concerned about a primary challenge from the right, the failure to sign such pledges is simply too risky.

Let’s just say it: The Republicans are the problem. - The Washington Post

It's nice to see what we've all been talking about put into words in such a descriptive and logical manner.

Pledging to Norquist over the constitution. What a shame.

You think that rant is descriptive and logical?

Rant? Which part isn't true?

Um, rant does not mean lie.

1: to talk in a noisy, excited, or declamatory manner

2: to scold vehemently

transitive verb
: to utter in a bombastic declamatory fashion

 

[rdean]

You think that rant is descriptive and logical?

Rant? Which part isn't true?

Um, rant does not mean lie.

1: to talk in a noisy, excited, or declamatory manner

2: to scold vehemently

transitive verb
: to utter in a bombastic declamatory fashion

Oh, so it's all true. Just irritating. Hmmm. Interesting.

 

[Dot Com]

A Dem mentioned this article during Ryan's budget reconciliation debate today

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Rant? Which part isn't true?

Um, rant does not mean lie.

1: to talk in a noisy, excited, or declamatory manner

2: to scold vehemently

transitive verb
: to utter in a bombastic declamatory fashion

Oh, so it's all true. Just irritating. Hmmm. Interesting.

It is as true as Romney pointing out that 90% of the job losses under Obama are women. In other words, it is only true if you ignore half the facts.

If Republicans are the problem why did they nominate a guy who crafted a state level version of Obamacare that he won't admit is causing major problems in Massachusetts?

If Republicans are the problem why didn't the Republicans nominate Bachmann, Santorum, or Perry?

If Republicans are the problem why were they willing to compromise with Obama until he had to deal with the fact that the Democrats were unwilling to accept the cuts he negotiated because the tax hikes were not large enough?

If Republicans are the problem why is Obama calling Ryan's budget, which actually increases spending over a trillion dollars, Social Darwinism?

Obviously the Democrats are just as much the problem as the Republicans.