Manafort Trial

[deanrd]

Let's use the "F"word......................FELONY!

Manafort has 18 felony charges against him in this trial and 7 more in the next.

They only need to find him guilty of 1. That's all, just one. Because each one carries a sentence of at least 10 years.

They have to have a unanimous verdict, and find the man guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

That reasonable doubt is already there.

Personally, I would not be surprised if President Trump exonerates the gentleman after Mueller finishes his case. The right to Pardon is sancrosanct.

You can't hide 30 formally secret bank accounts overseas.
You can't hide 60 million dollars after they've found it and identified it.
You can't hide the FACT you never paid taxes.
You can't hide the fact that he committed bank fraud and the president of the bank agreed to testify against him for immunity.

Manafort is fuked.

His only hope is to be pardoned by Trump AFTER he's found guilty in a court of law.

And that will make Trump look oh so good.

 

[Polishprince]

You can't hide 30 formally secret bank accounts overseas.
You can't hide 60 million dollars after they've found it and identified it.
You can't hide the FACT you never paid taxes..

If the evidence was obtained by an improper search warrant or fraudulent information on the search warrant application, the evidence is excluded at trial.

Further, the facts are that a lot of people had a lot bigger disputes with the IRS than this little bit of cash. Warren Buffett had or has a billion dollar dispute. If mistakes are made, the IRS can say you owe them money, but it isn't a criminal offense unless you had a suitable mens rea.

 

[Syriusly]

The Feds announced they're not even going to call Gates to testify. So there goes their headliner witness.

Now think about that. They don't even dare call Gates as Manafort's lawyers will totally destroy his credibility which will create reasonably doubt. Manafort's lawyers should call Rosenstein to testify why he dropped the case a decade ago.

Perhaps what Gates has to say will be beneficial to Mr. Manafort's case?

I would not be surprised to see him called by the defense- if the case gets that far.

There is a good chance that the charges will be dismissed after the Persecution finishes their case

Oh I look forward to coming back to this prediction at that time....lol

 

[deanrd]

You can't hide 30 formally secret bank accounts overseas.
You can't hide 60 million dollars after they've found it and identified it.
You can't hide the FACT you never paid taxes..

If the evidence was obtained by an improper search warrant or fraudulent information on the search warrant application, the evidence is excluded at trial.

Further, the facts are that a lot of people had a lot bigger disputes with the IRS than this little bit of cash. Warren Buffett had or has a billion dollar dispute. If mistakes are made, the IRS can say you owe them money, but it isn't a criminal offense unless you had a suitable mens rea.

Fuk Warren Buffett. He's not on trial.

Manafort is. By professionals who don't make mistakes.

Manafort is fuked.

 

[deanrd]

The Feds announced they're not even going to call Gates to testify. So there goes their headliner witness.

Now think about that. They don't even dare call Gates as Manafort's lawyers will totally destroy his credibility which will create reasonably doubt. Manafort's lawyers should call Rosenstein to testify why he dropped the case a decade ago.

Perhaps what Gates has to say will be beneficial to Mr. Manafort's case?

I would not be surprised to see him called by the defense- if the case gets that far.

There is a good chance that the charges will be dismissed after the Persecution finishes their case

Oh I look forward to coming back to this prediction at that time....lol

Me too.

 

[Polishprince]

You can't hide 30 formally secret bank accounts overseas.
You can't hide 60 million dollars after they've found it and identified it.
You can't hide the FACT you never paid taxes..

If the evidence was obtained by an improper search warrant or fraudulent information on the search warrant application, the evidence is excluded at trial.

Further, the facts are that a lot of people had a lot bigger disputes with the IRS than this little bit of cash. Warren Buffett had or has a billion dollar dispute. If mistakes are made, the IRS can say you owe them money, but it isn't a criminal offense unless you had a suitable mens rea.

Fuk Warren Buffett. He's not on trial.

Manafort is. By professionals who don't make mistakes.

Manafort is fuked.

We will see, needless to say. But my own view on this is that this case has nothing to do with the Russian Federation, Uncle Pooty, or the Trumpster's campaign. And further, IMHO, the case would have never been investigated from this many years ago if Mr. Manafort wasn't a friend of Donald J Trump. And that, is the very essence of a reasonable doubt. This is more about Mueller obsessive hatred of our President that it is about any alleged financial shenanigans that Mr. Manafort stands accused of.

 

[conserveguy877]

Where's the uproar over Crooked Hillary and her corrupt Clinton foundation? But yet the fake news is obsessed with Manafort's tax status? Which has nothing to do with collusion...

 

[Missouri_Mike]

You can't hide 30 formally secret bank accounts overseas.
You can't hide 60 million dollars after they've found it and identified it.
You can't hide the FACT you never paid taxes..

If the evidence was obtained by an improper search warrant or fraudulent information on the search warrant application, the evidence is excluded at trial.

Further, the facts are that a lot of people had a lot bigger disputes with the IRS than this little bit of cash. Warren Buffett had or has a billion dollar dispute. If mistakes are made, the IRS can say you owe them money, but it isn't a criminal offense unless you had a suitable mens rea.

Fuk Warren Buffett. He's not on trial.

Manafort is. By professionals who don't make mistakes.

Manafort is fuked.

How many millions does that fraud Sharpton owe again?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Manafort keeps trying to blame it on Gates.
Hilarious.
Gates carries a backpack.
Manafort wears four years of suits worth more than what Gates made in four years.

Manafort bought houses, landscaping, suits and other extravagant items using wire transfers from Cyprus to avoid paying taxes. That's where he's fuked the most.

Second is fraud. Lying to banks to get loans. He got a 16 million dollar loan right here in Chicago. The loan was a quarter of the bank's assets. The people working at the bank are now witnesses.

Manafort is fuked.

Do you come this unhinged when you see someone driving a nicer car than you?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

So far there have been a lot of allegations and accusations but not many facts. When the trial is over we will know what the facts are.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

So far there have been a lot of allegations and accusations but not many facts. When the trial is over we will know what the facts are.

We shall see how it goes but so far it doesn’t seem very shocking. I’m not sure you can convict someone for having nice suits.

 

[Syriusly]

You can't hide 30 formally secret bank accounts overseas.
You can't hide 60 million dollars after they've found it and identified it.
You can't hide the FACT you never paid taxes..

If the evidence was obtained by an improper search warrant or fraudulent information on the search warrant application, the evidence is excluded at trial.

Further, the facts are that a lot of people had a lot bigger disputes with the IRS than this little bit of cash. Warren Buffett had or has a billion dollar dispute. If mistakes are made, the IRS can say you owe them money, but it isn't a criminal offense unless you had a suitable mens rea.

Fuk Warren Buffett. He's not on trial.

Manafort is. By professionals who don't make mistakes.

Manafort is fuked.

We will see, needless to say. But my own view on this is that this case has nothing to do with the Russian Federation, Uncle Pooty, or the Trumpster's campaign. And further, IMHO, the case would have never been investigated from this many years ago if Mr. Manafort wasn't a friend of Donald J Trump. And that, is the very essence of a reasonable doubt. This is more about Mueller obsessive hatred of our President that it is about any alleged financial shenanigans that Mr. Manafort stands accused of.

LOL- what 'obsessive hatred' does Bob Mueller have of Don the Con?

Please enlighten us with anything which Mueller has said which indicates that he 'hates' the President- at all?

 

[deanrd]

Where's the uproar over Crooked Hillary and her corrupt Clinton foundation? But yet the fake news is obsessed with Manafort's tax status? Which has nothing to do with collusion...

It's not the Clinton Foundation that's under Criminal investigation.

That would be the Trump Foundation.

 

[deanrd]

Manafort keeps trying to blame it on Gates.
Hilarious.
Gates carries a backpack.
Manafort wears four years of suits worth more than what Gates made in four years.

Manafort bought houses, landscaping, suits and other extravagant items using wire transfers from Cyprus to avoid paying taxes. That's where he's fuked the most.

Second is fraud. Lying to banks to get loans. He got a 16 million dollar loan right here in Chicago. The loan was a quarter of the bank's assets. The people working at the bank are now witnesses.

Manafort is fuked.

Do you come this unhinged when you see someone driving a nicer car than you?

If they pay for it with a wire transfer from a secret account in Cyprus to avoid paying taxes, then they are the one with the problem, not me.

You aren't very smart are you? If you were, you would be better at defending Manafort.

Manafort is fuked.

 

[deanrd]

So far there have been a lot of allegations and accusations but not many facts. When the trial is over we will know what the facts are.

If it's documented then it's a fact.

Duh!

 

[Thinker101]

Manafort is so fuked.

Looks so bad for him that the prosecution will probably rest next week.

I agree! The documents and hard facts speak for themselves. If the jury has a functional brain - Manafort is toast.

Oh wow, so you've seen t he evidence?

Neato!

It's called news. It's everywhere.

Manafort accused of amassing 'secret income' as trial opens

ALEXANDRIA, Va. — Paul Manafort orchestrated a multimillion-dollar conspiracy to evade U.S. tax and banking laws, leaving behind a trail of lies as he lived a lavish lifestyle, prosecutors said as they laid out their case against the former Trump campaign chairman.

Prosecutor Uzo Asonye told the jury during his opening statement Tuesday that Manafort considered himself above the law as he funneled tens of millions of dollars through offshore accounts. That “secret income” was used to pay for personal expenses such as a $21,000 watch, a $15,000 jacket made of ostrich and more than $6 million worth of real estate paid for in cash, Asonye said.

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Manafort is toast.

Wow, two whole people protesting....quite impressive.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Manafort keeps trying to blame it on Gates.
Hilarious.
Gates carries a backpack.
Manafort wears four years of suits worth more than what Gates made in four years.

Manafort bought houses, landscaping, suits and other extravagant items using wire transfers from Cyprus to avoid paying taxes. That's where he's fuked the most.

Second is fraud. Lying to banks to get loans. He got a 16 million dollar loan right here in Chicago. The loan was a quarter of the bank's assets. The people working at the bank are now witnesses.

Manafort is fuked.

Do you come this unhinged when you see someone driving a nicer car than you?

If they pay for it with a wire transfer from a secret account in Cyprus to avoid paying taxes, then they are the one with the problem, not me.

You aren't very smart are you? If you were, you would be better at defending Manafort.

Manafort is fuked.

It’s not up to you how they pay for it. If it’s legal they can do that. It’s not against the law to pay as little tax as you possibly can. It’s actually your duty to pay as little as possible.

 

[Lakhota]

Where's the uproar over Crooked Hillary and her corrupt Clinton foundation? But yet the fake news is obsessed with Manafort's tax status? Which has nothing to do with collusion...

Manafort's trial is not about collusion. Don't you follow the news?

 

[bripat9643]

So sounds like you are pro money laundering. You know free money without taxes.

Insisting the Manafort get a fair trial means you support money laundering? Did insisting that OJ get a fair trial mean you are pro murder?

It's impossible to state in mere words just how stupid you are.

 

[bripat9643]

Manafort is so fuked.

Looks so bad for him that the prosecution will probably rest next week.

I agree! The documents and hard facts speak for themselves. If the jury has a functional brain - Manafort is toast.

How do you know whether they speak for themselves?