Man wins lottery and continues to get food stamps

[Wicked Jester]

I guess you missed the part where he was full time student collecting unemployment.

And you know for a fact that a 20-something has paid in a year's worth of salary into unemployment and isnt taking more than he put in how exactly?

It's nice to hear that you support liberal safety net programs tho.

Noooooooo, i specifically asked if he paid into unemployment before collecting?

And, what is so wrong with him going to school on a loan he has to pay back?

Sounds like he's quite a responsible person.

Now, if he fails to pay back that loan, or was found to be commiting fraud to collect unemployment, then get back to me.

He could have been working but wasn't. He CHOSE to stay out of the workforce to spend his time in school yet he still collected full enemployment benefits for over a year with no intention of looking for a job during that time. In fact, he didn't look at all. He just went to school a couple of hours a day collected. Did I mention he lives with his Mom rent free?

To answer your question, yes, he did pay in but he didn't pay in anywhere near as much as he got back.

He took advantage of the system. Personally, I'm fine with it but I do find some of his positions on issues pretty damn hypocritical considering his real life situation and actions.

I had no idea you had such a liberal view on unemployment benefits.

But in the other post you stated he's a full time student.....So, "two hours a day" sounds fishy.

Plus, I believe part of the requirement for a student to collect unemployment, would be to provide full class schedules, and to have paid into it prior to collecting.

I have no problem with unemployment benefits. Very few people do.......Most people don't abuse them like many of the welfare suckers do. And unemployment seems to be much more accountable than welfare.

I'm a former business owner, Luissa......I know quite a bit about how unemployment works.

 

[Luissa]

Noooooooo, i specifically asked if he paid into unemployment before collecting?

And, what is so wrong with him going to school on a loan he has to pay back?

Sounds like he's quite a responsible person.

Now, if he fails to pay back that loan, or was found to be commiting fraud to collect unemployment, then get back to me.

He could have been working but wasn't. He CHOSE to stay out of the workforce to spend his time in school yet he still collected full enemployment benefits for over a year with no intention of looking for a job during that time. In fact, he didn't look at all. He just went to school a couple of hours a day collected. Did I mention he lives with his Mom rent free?

To answer your question, yes, he did pay in but he didn't pay in anywhere near as much as he got back.

He took advantage of the system. Personally, I'm fine with it but I do find some of his positions on issues pretty damn hypocritical considering his real life situation and actions.

I had no idea you had such a liberal view on unemployment benefits.

But in the other post you stated he's a full time student.....So, "two hours a day" sounds fishy.

Plus, I believe part of the requirement for a student to collect unemployment, would be to provide full class schedules, and to have paid into it prior to collecting.

I have no problem with unemployment benefits. Very few people do.......Most people don't abuse them like many of the welfare suckers do. And unemployment seems to be much more accountable than welfare.

I'm a former business owner, Luissa......I know quite a bit about how unemployment works.

When was the last time you were in college? Four classes twice a week, 90-120 minutes each class is a full-time student. Do the math it's about a couple of hours a day.

And no, he didn't turn in his full class schedules to the unemployment office. He never informed them he was a student. He was telling them he was looking for work.

 

[wg1bbill]

Oh well at least the old guy has still luck winning lottery but as far as food stamps go if he meets underlaw the required incom status and qualifies he is still going to get food stamps reguardless of his luck in winning a lottery ticket. But as law is written each state requires certain law to be either in favor or against certain value or income status even to say what you have in the bank or if you have money in your bank account as all revenue must be recorded and this includes winnings or inheritance as in Mass if your living in Federal Housing Project and your rent is based on your income then if you report winnings from a lottery they expect you to pay back what you was given. As if you was paying rent like 150.00 dollars a month and you paid this amount for one year as a example, then the State tryes to get your time living their for low income status say 12 mos and they want you to pay the full required amount that would be against your total income thats registered against your name even pay check or creditcard income the state of Mass will try to get back pay and then charge you accordingly for full amount of your total sum. Example if you was eligable for Social Security and say they paid you a check for twenty three thousand , then the state would say you owe us accordingly and to what ever they post you as they will either make you pay back and also either throw you out or they will say you have to pay this much money for back rent and this is your new rent increase, so people usually move out rather to pay much more than what it is worth for you to live there. And usually people just move and give up their apartments for the needy as it was before you got lucky. So eventually you could be a bit easy and try to say nothing but the government or the State will find out and if you stay there and say nothing eventually they will meet and find out that you have recorded income not reported to them and you will have to pay every penny back. So best solution is to move and leave them as I did once I found out they will read your income status eventually and add on interest from day one of when your income status claimed moved up or down. It is ok when you needed low income rental status and to work out the money you had which classified you to a lower income. This is why everytime your house hold changes so dosn`t your status either go up or down depending on each one`s circumstances. I believe this is fair and they are only looking to get their money they were more or less letting you live there as everyone else was paying according to their recorded income etc. So you or any one else should not be any different. It keeps the record straight and they as the State and Fed Government make the law according to which way they see it and how people make their income, and if you meet the requirements then you qualify to register etc. But moving into a government housing project originally was for the low income veterans this was a benefit but the politics changed it to where the low family income was no different if you served in the military or if you were never in the military you still could get in if you had political favor it was that simple so I always wondered why some people got bigger housing units or newer buildings verses the old housing which was after the 50` Korea conflict etc. My mother lived in the housing projects for almost 63 years. Always on low income even though she worked 25 years for Bradlees Dept store. That era people made probally 30.00 dollars a week or less. So today things are so different I would like to see low income again but also everything around you would sell for pennies on the dollar. Changing the wages and the economy it would take America a very long time to get the money thats owed to them. But the world will never change as far as money or income if anything they will keep it the way the system is running. And if you owe they will usually win in the end. So the bureaucats will be the ruler. Law is written for gain. In closing always remember there will always be some one out there to take your money.

 

[Luissa]

HOLY WALL OF TExT BATMAN!!!!!

 

[Wicked Jester]

Oh well at least the old guy has still luck winning lottery but as far as food stamps go if he meets underlaw the required incom status and qualifies he is still going to get food stamps reguardless of his luck in winning a lottery ticket. But as law is written each state requires certain law to be either in favor or against certain value or income status even to say what you have in the bank or if you have money in your bank account as all revenue must be recorded and this includes winnings or inheritance as in Mass if your living in Federal Housing Project and your rent is based on your income then if you report winnings from a lottery they expect you to pay back what you was given. As if you was paying rent like 150.00 dollars a month and you paid this amount for one year as a example, then the State tryes to get your time living their for low income status say 12 mos and they want you to pay the full required amount that would be against your total income thats registered against your name even pay check or creditcard income the state of Mass will try to get back pay and then charge you accordingly for full amount of your total sum. Example if you was eligable for Social Security and say they paid you a check for twenty three thousand , then the state would say you owe us accordingly and to what ever they post you as they will either make you pay back and also either throw you out or they will say you have to pay this much money for back rent and this is your new rent increase, so people usually move out rather to pay much more than what it is worth for you to live there. And usually people just move and give up their apartments for the needy as it was before you got lucky. So eventually you could be a bit easy and try to say nothing but the government or the State will find out and if you stay there and say nothing eventually they will meet and find out that you have recorded income not reported to them and you will have to pay every penny back. So best solution is to move and leave them as I did once I found out they will read your income status eventually and add on interest from day one of when your income status claimed moved up or down. It is ok when you needed low income rental status and to work out the money you had which classified you to a lower income. This is why everytime your house hold changes so dosn`t your status either go up or down depending on each one`s circumstances. I believe this is fair and they are only looking to get their money they were more or less letting you live there as everyone else was paying according to their recorded income etc. So you or any one else should not be any different. It keeps the record straight and they as the State and Fed Government make the law according to which way they see it and how people make their income, and if you meet the requirements then you qualify to register etc. But moving into a government housing project originally was for the low income veterans this was a benefit but the politics changed it to where the low family income was no different if you served in the military or if you were never in the military you still could get in if you had political favor it was that simple so I always wondered why some people got bigger housing units or newer buildings verses the old housing which was after the 50` Korea conflict etc. My mother lived in the housing projects for almost 63 years. Always on low income even though she worked 25 years for Bradlees Dept store. That era people made probally 30.00 dollars a week or less. So today things are so different I would like to see low income again but also everything around you would sell for pennies on the dollar. Changing the wages and the economy it would take America a very long time to get the money thats owed to them. But the world will never change as far as money or income if anything they will keep it the way the system is running. And if you owe they will usually win in the end. So the bureaucats will be the ruler. Law is written for gain. In closing always remember there will always be some one out there to take your money.

Christ, "War and Peace" was shorter, and far more interesting.

 

[Grace]

Oh well at least the old guy has still luck winning lottery but as far as food stamps go if he meets underlaw the required incom status and qualifies he is still going to get food stamps reguardless of his luck in winning a lottery ticket. But as law is written each state requires certain law to be either in favor or against certain value or income status even to say what you have in the bank or if you have money in your bank account as all revenue must be recorded and this includes winnings or inheritance as in Mass if your living in Federal Housing Project and your rent is based on your income then if you report winnings from a lottery they expect you to pay back what you was given. As if you was paying rent like 150.00 dollars a month and you paid this amount for one year as a example, then the State tryes to get your time living their for low income status say 12 mos and they want you to pay the full required amount that would be against your total income thats registered against your name even pay check or creditcard income the state of Mass will try to get back pay and then charge you accordingly for full amount of your total sum. Example if you was eligable for Social Security and say they paid you a check for twenty three thousand , then the state would say you owe us accordingly and to what ever they post you as they will either make you pay back and also either throw you out or they will say you have to pay this much money for back rent and this is your new rent increase, so people usually move out rather to pay much more than what it is worth for you to live there. And usually people just move and give up their apartments for the needy as it was before you got lucky. So eventually you could be a bit easy and try to say nothing but the government or the State will find out and if you stay there and say nothing eventually they will meet and find out that you have recorded income not reported to them and you will have to pay every penny back. So best solution is to move and leave them as I did once I found out they will read your income status eventually and add on interest from day one of when your income status claimed moved up or down. It is ok when you needed low income rental status and to work out the money you had which classified you to a lower income. This is why everytime your house hold changes so dosn`t your status either go up or down depending on each one`s circumstances. I believe this is fair and they are only looking to get their money they were more or less letting you live there as everyone else was paying according to their recorded income etc. So you or any one else should not be any different. It keeps the record straight and they as the State and Fed Government make the law according to which way they see it and how people make their income, and if you meet the requirements then you qualify to register etc. But moving into a government housing project originally was for the low income veterans this was a benefit but the politics changed it to where the low family income was no different if you served in the military or if you were never in the military you still could get in if you had political favor it was that simple so I always wondered why some people got bigger housing units or newer buildings verses the old housing which was after the 50` Korea conflict etc. My mother lived in the housing projects for almost 63 years. Always on low income even though she worked 25 years for Bradlees Dept store. That era people made probally 30.00 dollars a week or less. So today things are so different I would like to see low income again but also everything around you would sell for pennies on the dollar. Changing the wages and the economy it would take America a very long time to get the money thats owed to them. But the world will never change as far as money or income if anything they will keep it the way the system is running. And if you owe they will usually win in the end. So the bureaucats will be the ruler. Law is written for gain. In closing always remember there will always be some one out there to take your money.

This might have been an interesting read, but I just scrolled on by for obvious reasons.

Paragraphs are your friend.

 

[American Cowboy]

OMG...Do you have any idea what your Democrat/Socialism is?

It removes all personal responsibility from the Government dependant. It is the Government telling you, you are too stupid to take care of yourself. In your case, I think they are right.

Your government will decide what is moral, ethical and decent for you.

Although they are usually wrong, so you are out of luck.

Big Government or Freedom - You can't have both.

I retired from the military and have worked in the defense industry since I was on terminal leave. I take care of myself and my family and will decide what is moral, ethical and decent for me. Just as I have done since the age of 13.

Really - Like it or not YOU MUST buy insurance because of DEMOCRATS

If you own a Restaurant, you are not allowed to make your own smoking policy in most states because of DEMOCRATS

If you ride a motorcycle you must were a helmet because of DEMOCRATS

Instead of choosing which charities you would like to donate to the government automatically takes money out of your paycheck and gives food stamps to idiots like this.

Many Democrats think you are too stupid to own a gun and want to take that right away from you.

Like these ideas or not, the Government is making these and many other decision for you.

You think you’re making or own decisions you are fooling yourself.

As if your government is not already doing enough thinking for you, the unions pick up where Government left off and do your negotiating for you.

Democrats are on auto-pilot

Couldn't think of anything Jones?

 

[Seawytch]

I dont understand how anyone can take the dole when they dont have to. What the heck is wrong with people that they have no self respect whatsoever?

You mean like oil companies?

 

[xsited1]

Conservative wins lottery and continues to get food stamps

So which mod changed the title?

 

[Vanquish]

Wait a fucking second...

You conservatives in this thread are fucking ridiculous...

Where is your talk of morality and conscience when it comes to needy people who can't get health care?? When that subject gets brought up...you're all like "Fuck em! They dont have the money, it's not my responsibility! Let 'em die."

But when this guy...who is following the letter of the law...keeps using an entitlement...you spin your fucking story??? Do you realize how retarded that sounds?

You can't talk about morality & how there needs to be more legislation and regulation of this guy on one hand ... then say screw people & free market business should get to do whatever it wants without regulation on the other hand.

I think what he's doing is wrong, sure...but some of you can't hold a thought in your head for more than 5 seconds.

 

[Care4all]

Come to Florida and see the seniors living in their 2nd or 3rd houses all courtesy of Social Security.

And they all paid into social security their whole lives. Social security is them getting their money back that the government took from them. It's not a handout-it's something they've earned by paying into. I don't suppose you're for the government cutting their social security-thus robbing them of the money they forced those seniors to pay the government.

The lady across the lake never worked a day in her life, her husband died 30 years ago and she still gets a check. Her house is worth over $500K and she has no mortgage. Her maid has worked there for 30 years.

Her husband paid in to it his entire life and the spouse can collect 1/2 of what the husband SS check was...

she is not getting rich off of a 200 check a month....

 

[manifold]

Oh well at least the old guy has still luck winning lottery but as far as food stamps go if he meets underlaw the required incom status and qualifies he is still going to get food stamps reguardless of his luck in winning a lottery ticket. But as law is written each state requires certain law to be either in favor or against certain value or income status even to say what you have in the bank or if you have money in your bank account as all revenue must be recorded and this includes winnings or inheritance as in Mass if your living in Federal Housing Project and your rent is based on your income then if you report winnings from a lottery they expect you to pay back what you was given. As if you was paying rent like 150.00 dollars a month and you paid this amount for one year as a example, then the State tryes to get your time living their for low income status say 12 mos and they want you to pay the full required amount that would be against your total income thats registered against your name even pay check or creditcard income the state of Mass will try to get back pay and then charge you accordingly for full amount of your total sum. Example if you was eligable for Social Security and say they paid you a check for twenty three thousand , then the state would say you owe us accordingly and to what ever they post you as they will either make you pay back and also either throw you out or they will say you have to pay this much money for back rent and this is your new rent increase, so people usually move out rather to pay much more than what it is worth for you to live there. And usually people just move and give up their apartments for the needy as it was before you got lucky. So eventually you could be a bit easy and try to say nothing but the government or the State will find out and if you stay there and say nothing eventually they will meet and find out that you have recorded income not reported to them and you will have to pay every penny back. So best solution is to move and leave them as I did once I found out they will read your income status eventually and add on interest from day one of when your income status claimed moved up or down. It is ok when you needed low income rental status and to work out the money you had which classified you to a lower income. This is why everytime your house hold changes so dosn`t your status either go up or down depending on each one`s circumstances. I believe this is fair and they are only looking to get their money they were more or less letting you live there as everyone else was paying according to their recorded income etc. So you or any one else should not be any different. It keeps the record straight and they as the State and Fed Government make the law according to which way they see it and how people make their income, and if you meet the requirements then you qualify to register etc. But moving into a government housing project originally was for the low income veterans this was a benefit but the politics changed it to where the low family income was no different if you served in the military or if you were never in the military you still could get in if you had political favor it was that simple so I always wondered why some people got bigger housing units or newer buildings verses the old housing which was after the 50` Korea conflict etc. My mother lived in the housing projects for almost 63 years. Always on low income even though she worked 25 years for Bradlees Dept store. That era people made probally 30.00 dollars a week or less. So today things are so different I would like to see low income again but also everything around you would sell for pennies on the dollar. Changing the wages and the economy it would take America a very long time to get the money thats owed to them. But the world will never change as far as money or income if anything they will keep it the way the system is running. And if you owe they will usually win in the end. So the bureaucats will be the ruler. Law is written for gain. In closing always remember there will always be some one out there to take your money.

Christ, "War and Peace" was shorter, and far more interesting.

You actually read this post?

 

[Care4all]

Conservative wins lottery and continues to get food stamps

So which mod changed the title?

 

[Vanquish]

Oh well at least the old guy has still luck winning lottery but as far as food stamps go if he meets underlaw the required incom status and qualifies he is still going to get food stamps reguardless of his luck in winning a lottery ticket. But as law is written each state requires certain law to be either in favor or against certain value or income status even to say what you have in the bank or if you have money in your bank account as all revenue must be recorded and this includes winnings or inheritance as in Mass if your living in Federal Housing Project and your rent is based on your income then if you report winnings from a lottery they expect you to pay back what you was given. As if you was paying rent like 150.00 dollars a month and you paid this amount for one year as a example, then the State tryes to get your time living their for low income status say 12 mos and they want you to pay the full required amount that would be against your total income thats registered against your name even pay check or creditcard income the state of Mass will try to get back pay and then charge you accordingly for full amount of your total sum. Example if you was eligable for Social Security and say they paid you a check for twenty three thousand , then the state would say you owe us accordingly and to what ever they post you as they will either make you pay back and also either throw you out or they will say you have to pay this much money for back rent and this is your new rent increase, so people usually move out rather to pay much more than what it is worth for you to live there. And usually people just move and give up their apartments for the needy as it was before you got lucky. So eventually you could be a bit easy and try to say nothing but the government or the State will find out and if you stay there and say nothing eventually they will meet and find out that you have recorded income not reported to them and you will have to pay every penny back. So best solution is to move and leave them as I did once I found out they will read your income status eventually and add on interest from day one of when your income status claimed moved up or down. It is ok when you needed low income rental status and to work out the money you had which classified you to a lower income. This is why everytime your house hold changes so dosn`t your status either go up or down depending on each one`s circumstances. I believe this is fair and they are only looking to get their money they were more or less letting you live there as everyone else was paying according to their recorded income etc. So you or any one else should not be any different. It keeps the record straight and they as the State and Fed Government make the law according to which way they see it and how people make their income, and if you meet the requirements then you qualify to register etc. But moving into a government housing project originally was for the low income veterans this was a benefit but the politics changed it to where the low family income was no different if you served in the military or if you were never in the military you still could get in if you had political favor it was that simple so I always wondered why some people got bigger housing units or newer buildings verses the old housing which was after the 50` Korea conflict etc. My mother lived in the housing projects for almost 63 years. Always on low income even though she worked 25 years for Bradlees Dept store. That era people made probally 30.00 dollars a week or less. So today things are so different I would like to see low income again but also everything around you would sell for pennies on the dollar. Changing the wages and the economy it would take America a very long time to get the money thats owed to them. But the world will never change as far as money or income if anything they will keep it the way the system is running. And if you owe they will usually win in the end. So the bureaucats will be the ruler. Law is written for gain. In closing always remember there will always be some one out there to take your money.

Christ, "War and Peace" was shorter, and far more interesting.

You actually read this post?

CRIT HIT!!


Wall of Text hits YOU for 1000 pts damage!!

 

[AllieBaba]

The OP is bullshit. Income from lottery winnings IS counted as income. My guess is the guy had foodstamps on his card..once they are on there, we don't take them off...so technically, though his food stamps are no longer being issued, he could continue to use the card until the allotment is used up.

Now if he had taken all the winnings in one payment, it would only be counted in the month it's received; and if his income otherwise is under 185 percent of the fpl, then we don't count resources, only monthly income. So he could continue to receive foodstamps then. And if the payout was at the end of the month, when he couldn't get a 10-day reduction notice, then his foodstamps wouldn't be reduced at all, they would just continue. It's the same way we deal with other one-time lump sum payments to clients.

 

[auditor0007]

The OP is bullshit. Income from lottery winnings IS counted as income. My guess is the guy had foodstamps on his card..once they are on there, we don't take them off...so technically, though his food stamps are no longer being issued, he could continue to use the card until the allotment is used up.

Now if he had taken all the winnings in one payment, it would only be counted in the month it's received; and if his income otherwise is under 185 percent of the fpl, then we don't count resources, only monthly income. So he could continue to receive foodstamps then. And if the payout was at the end of the month, when he couldn't get a 10-day reduction notice, then his foodstamps wouldn't be reduced at all, they would just continue. It's the same way we deal with other one-time lump sum payments to clients.

The point is that it is wrong and should be changed, not just for this guy, but for anyone who has substantial assets but little income. The fact is simple, someone with that amount of assets can support themselves on the interest alone. They don't need a government handout that is meant for those truly in need. This is the kind of stuff that pisses almost everyone off about our welfare system, when we see people like this taking advantage of it and laughing at us in the process. Then people get so pissed off they think that everyone on welfare is just fleecing taxpayers. I have no problem with a poor family or lower income single parent receiving food stamps. I do have a problem when a millionaire is receiving food stamps.

 

[AllieBaba]

The interest would be counted as income.

As I said, the OP is bullshit.

 

[Care4all]

The interest would be counted as income.

As I said, the OP is bullshit.

i agree, it is bull crud....

the interest would be counted as income....i was just getting the info on food stamps for my state to post here, to prove such.

 

[iggy pop]

See that's the problem. Frigging liberal entitlement programs are full of loopholes and are being abused constantly. Never let a lib write a law.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The interest would be counted as income.

As I said, the OP is bullshit.

i agree, it is bull crud....

the interest would be counted as income....i was just getting the info on food stamps for my state to post here, to prove such.

Since when do you have the right to change a thread title just because you happen to dislike it? Or is it the old two wrongs make a right?