Make up your mind Mr. President

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    First he puts his neck on the line to go against the Iraqi study group and send 30,000 troops for his "surge".

    Now he says 'Fewer American forces may be do-able.

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/03/bush.iraq/index.html

    Why spend so much money on a surge, if your going to say "fuck it lets pull em out" 6 months later?

    If its because of the horrible iraqi benchmark report card that just came in, then fucking say it.

    Thats why I hate this guy, not because he is stupid....no not at all, there have been dumber presidents. I hate him because he makes a big decision, or backs a big policy, then sidesteps it and manipulates every situation to dodge responibility.

    Why not just say you fucked up, or at least give it to us straight up. Instead of saying that the surge worked so well, we might be able to pull troops out. Thats such bullshit.
     
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    Except he didn't fuck up. The Surge is working. We just can not sustain it for ever. The Iraqis need to take some responsibility, and they are trying.
     
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    If the surge was working, 11 out of 18 benchmarks would be a nightmare, not a reality. Look over the 11 that are satisfactory, which ones were a direct result of the surge? Then get back to me.
     
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    Yes, they are VERY trying, on everyones nerves. the thing is they should be trying to come up with a stable colilition government, not a peicemeal one.
     
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    You ARE kidding right?

    EVERY FUCKING PRESIDENT since Roosevelt has acted just like our current president, get fucking real, jeeezzzzz.................:eusa_wall:

    His whole administration is coming apart at the seams, what the fuck do you expect, please I would really like to know.

    Its sooooo easy to lay blame, and then run off to some little comfort zone, and wait to see what others say, well, I say, WHAT'S YOUR FUCKING ANSWER?

    It's just too easy these days to lay blame, and light out of Dodge, tell us what YOU would do, sounds like you got it all figured out.:doubt:
     
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    did you hear that on glen beck
     
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    A voice in the back of my head didn't whisper it and no conspiracy hack sent me a newsletter about it either.
     
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    I was under the impression that the PURPOSE of the surge was to give the Iraqi political process a chance to move forward by reducing the carnage in Baghdad. The carnage has indeed been reduced - that was almost a foregone conclusion. If you put 20 THOUSAND more cops on the beat in East LA, gang violence THERE would obviously go down. What seems to have happened with this surge is that the carnage has merely moved out of Baghdad proper and is not scattered about the rest of the country.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...nce1sep01,0,3069115.story?coll=la-home-center

    and more importantly, the surge has not come close to serving its intended PURPOSE. The Iraqi political process has made little to no forward motion.

    Curbing carnage in Baghdad was not the purpose of the surge. Claiming that, because we have curbed carnage in Baghdad that, the surge is a success is dizzying and desperate political spin.
     
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    Can you say, emotional meltdown? With no validity, or anything that resembles a substantial, unbiased progressive and practical argument.

    You really should not open up like that in a political forum, act accordingly and maybe someone will finish reading your entire posts, and not stop after the words "every fucking president since roosavelt" (strawman claim).
     
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    Perhaps you shouldn't have stopped there instead of replying and ultimately makeing yourself look silly.

    As far as the topic. For the left it will be damned if he does, damned if he doesn't it appears. Your post proves that.
     

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