Majority Leader Eric Cantor touts strategy to grow economy

[rdean]

Republicans would do away with funding for 150 programs including flood prevention ($30 million), multifamily rural housing rehab ($25 million), cops hiring ($298 million), endangered species conservation ($83 million), re-integration of ex-offenders ($108.5 million), family planning ($317.5 million), math and science partnerships ($180.5 million), Teach for America ($18 million), Reading is Fundamental ($24.8 million) and national infrastructure investments ($600 million).

Cantor touts strategy to grow economy

Eric Cantor - one of the Republican "Young Guns".

I want to make sure I understand this list:

Defund:

Flood prevention
housing rehab for the rural poor
cops
endangered species protection
re-integration of criminals into society
Family Planning
math and science
teaching
reading
National Infrastructure investment

This is the plan? This will "grow the economy"?

Am I the only one who has a problem with this "plan"?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Republicans would do away with funding for 150 programs including flood prevention ($30 million), multifamily rural housing rehab ($25 million), cops hiring ($298 million), endangered species conservation ($83 million), re-integration of ex-offenders ($108.5 million), family planning ($317.5 million), math and science partnerships ($180.5 million), Teach for America ($18 million), Reading is Fundamental ($24.8 million) and national infrastructure investments ($600 million).

Cantor touts strategy to grow economy

Eric Cantor - one of the Republican "Young Guns".

I want to make sure I understand this list:

Defund:

Flood prevention
housing rehab for the rural poor
cops
endangered species protection
re-integration of criminals into society
Family Planning
math and science
teaching
reading
National Infrastructure investment

This is the plan? This will "grow the economy"?

Am I the only one who has a problem with this "plan"?

Let me help you out here, deanie...

1. If you want a real eyeful of potential cuts that would save billions, …

a. The GAO says the federal government made at least $98 billion in ‘improper’ in 2009. White House reports $98B in improper government payments - Nov. 18, 2009

b. Federal auditors rated ever government program, and found that 22% of them, $123 billion in spending, were ineffective! 50 Examples of Government Waste | The Heritage Foundation

c. Did you know that the CBO reports a vast number of cuts that would save a fortune? http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/102xx/doc10294/08-06-BudgetOptions.pdf
Here are a few:

i. The CBO also considered the option of cutting the Airport Improvement Program that provides grants to airports to expand runways and improve security, saying this would reduce spending by $10.7 billion through 2019.

ii. The CBO also considered the option of cutting the Airport Improvement Program that provides grants to airports to expand runways and improve security, saying this would reduce spending by $10.7 billion through 2019.

iii. End subsidized loans to graduate students Ten year savings $18.8 billon
iv. End Department of Energy research on fossil fuels. Ten year savings $7.9 billion.

 

[rdean]

Republicans would do away with funding for 150 programs including flood prevention ($30 million), multifamily rural housing rehab ($25 million), cops hiring ($298 million), endangered species conservation ($83 million), re-integration of ex-offenders ($108.5 million), family planning ($317.5 million), math and science partnerships ($180.5 million), Teach for America ($18 million), Reading is Fundamental ($24.8 million) and national infrastructure investments ($600 million).

Cantor touts strategy to grow economy

Eric Cantor - one of the Republican "Young Guns".

I want to make sure I understand this list:

Defund:

Flood prevention
housing rehab for the rural poor
cops
endangered species protection
re-integration of criminals into society
Family Planning
math and science
teaching
reading
National Infrastructure investment

This is the plan? This will "grow the economy"?

Am I the only one who has a problem with this "plan"?

Let me help you out here, deanie...

1. If you want a real eyeful of potential cuts that would save billions, …

a. The GAO says the federal government made at least $98 billion in ‘improper’ in 2009. White House reports $98B in improper government payments - Nov. 18, 2009

b. Federal auditors rated ever government program, and found that 22% of them, $123 billion in spending, were ineffective! 50 Examples of Government Waste | The Heritage Foundation

c. Did you know that the CBO reports a vast number of cuts that would save a fortune? http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/102xx/doc10294/08-06-BudgetOptions.pdf
Here are a few:

i. The CBO also considered the option of cutting the Airport Improvement Program that provides grants to airports to expand runways and improve security, saying this would reduce spending by $10.7 billion through 2019.

ii. The CBO also considered the option of cutting the Airport Improvement Program that provides grants to airports to expand runways and improve security, saying this would reduce spending by $10.7 billion through 2019.

iii. End subsidized loans to graduate students Ten year savings $18.8 billon
iv. End Department of Energy research on fossil fuels. Ten year savings $7.9 billion.

Look, plenty of "end this" and "end that". Where is the plan to "grow" something? I don't believe that's something Republicans can do. What have they "grown" besides the deficit? Or the number of "poor people"? Or the fortunes of billionaires? Or the amount of pollution? Or those aren't questions you're prepared to answer?

 

[skeptic]

Republicans would do away with funding for 150 programs including flood prevention ($30 million), multifamily rural housing rehab ($25 million), cops hiring ($298 million), endangered species conservation ($83 million), re-integration of ex-offenders ($108.5 million), family planning ($317.5 million), math and science partnerships ($180.5 million), Teach for America ($18 million), Reading is Fundamental ($24.8 million) and national infrastructure investments ($600 million).

Cantor touts strategy to grow economy

Eric Cantor - one of the Republican "Young Guns".

I want to make sure I understand this list:

Defund:

Flood prevention
housing rehab for the rural poor
cops
endangered species protection
re-integration of criminals into society
Family Planning
math and science
teaching
reading
National Infrastructure investment

This is the plan? This will "grow the economy"?

Am I the only one who has a problem with this "plan"?

Let me help you out here, deanie...

1. If you want a real eyeful of potential cuts that would save billions, …

a. The GAO says the federal government made at least $98 billion in ‘improper’ in 2009. White House reports $98B in improper government payments - Nov. 18, 2009

b. Federal auditors rated ever government program, and found that 22% of them, $123 billion in spending, were ineffective! 50 Examples of Government Waste | The Heritage Foundation

c. Did you know that the CBO reports a vast number of cuts that would save a fortune? http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/102xx/doc10294/08-06-BudgetOptions.pdf
Here are a few:

i. The CBO also considered the option of cutting the Airport Improvement Program that provides grants to airports to expand runways and improve security, saying this would reduce spending by $10.7 billion through 2019.

ii. The CBO also considered the option of cutting the Airport Improvement Program that provides grants to airports to expand runways and improve security, saying this would reduce spending by $10.7 billion through 2019.

iii. End subsidized loans to graduate students Ten year savings $18.8 billon
iv. End Department of Energy research on fossil fuels. Ten year savings $7.9 billion.

But none of your response addresses the stated claim to "grow the economy".

 

[PoliticalChic]

Republicans would do away with funding for 150 programs including flood prevention ($30 million), multifamily rural housing rehab ($25 million), cops hiring ($298 million), endangered species conservation ($83 million), re-integration of ex-offenders ($108.5 million), family planning ($317.5 million), math and science partnerships ($180.5 million), Teach for America ($18 million), Reading is Fundamental ($24.8 million) and national infrastructure investments ($600 million).

Cantor touts strategy to grow economy

Eric Cantor - one of the Republican "Young Guns".

I want to make sure I understand this list:

Defund:

Flood prevention
housing rehab for the rural poor
cops
endangered species protection
re-integration of criminals into society
Family Planning
math and science
teaching
reading
National Infrastructure investment

This is the plan? This will "grow the economy"?

Am I the only one who has a problem with this "plan"?

Let me help you out here, deanie...

1. If you want a real eyeful of potential cuts that would save billions, …

a. The GAO says the federal government made at least $98 billion in ‘improper’ in 2009. White House reports $98B in improper government payments - Nov. 18, 2009

b. Federal auditors rated ever government program, and found that 22% of them, $123 billion in spending, were ineffective! 50 Examples of Government Waste | The Heritage Foundation

c. Did you know that the CBO reports a vast number of cuts that would save a fortune? http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/102xx/doc10294/08-06-BudgetOptions.pdf
Here are a few:

i. The CBO also considered the option of cutting the Airport Improvement Program that provides grants to airports to expand runways and improve security, saying this would reduce spending by $10.7 billion through 2019.

ii. The CBO also considered the option of cutting the Airport Improvement Program that provides grants to airports to expand runways and improve security, saying this would reduce spending by $10.7 billion through 2019.

iii. End subsidized loans to graduate students Ten year savings $18.8 billon
iv. End Department of Energy research on fossil fuels. Ten year savings $7.9 billion.

Look, plenty of "end this" and "end that". Where is the plan to "grow" something? I don't believe that's something Republicans can do. What have they "grown" besides the deficit? Or the number of "poor people"? Or the fortunes of billionaires? Or the amount of pollution? Or those aren't questions you're prepared to answer?

1. "Republicans can do. What have they "grown" besides the deficit?"
FDR, LBJ....you can throw in Bush II


The answer to growth is lower taxes, and less regulation.
Encourage entrepreneurship, not public sector work...'higher calling' my petootie.


2. "Or the number of "poor people"?

"When all sources of income are included -- wages, salaries, realized capital gains, dividends, business income and government benefits -- and taxes paid are deducted, households in the lowest income quintile saw a roughly 25% increase in their living standards from 1983 to 2005. (See chart nearby; the data is from the Congressional Budget Office's "Comprehensive Household Income.") This fact alone refutes the notion that the poor are getting poorer. They are not."
http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB122143692536934297.html


3. So, what has been the record of Keynesian policy? The Bush/Pelosi stimulus bill of February, 2008: no positive effects. “President Obama and Congressional Democrats came back with the almost $1 trillion stimulus bill, promising that it would stop unemployment from climbing above 8%.” Aside from the totally illusory and fabricated ‘jobs created or saved,’ no positive effects, slow and weak recovery from the recession, which has lasted almost two years (a postwar record) …as compared to “tax rate reductions that were the focus of Reaganomics and supply-side theory, which fundamentally change economic incentives.”

a. [The] “Obama Administration came into office knowing that the economy would ultimately recover as the business cycle turned up naturally, and planned to reap the political credit, enabling still greater leaps of neo-socialism.”

b. “[O]ver the past 40 years, every time capital gains tax rates have been cut, revenues have increased, and every time capital gains tax rates have been increased, revenues have declined.”
The American Spectator : The Coming Crash of 2011


And, to clarify, your constant attack on the "6%'ers" is not the basis of my response...rather your attack on sound, conservative, tried and true economic policy is.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Republicans would do away with funding for 150 programs including flood prevention ($30 million), multifamily rural housing rehab ($25 million), cops hiring ($298 million), endangered species conservation ($83 million), re-integration of ex-offenders ($108.5 million), family planning ($317.5 million), math and science partnerships ($180.5 million), Teach for America ($18 million), Reading is Fundamental ($24.8 million) and national infrastructure investments ($600 million).

Cantor touts strategy to grow economy

Eric Cantor - one of the Republican "Young Guns".

I want to make sure I understand this list:

Defund:

Flood prevention
housing rehab for the rural poor
cops
endangered species protection
re-integration of criminals into society
Family Planning
math and science
teaching
reading
National Infrastructure investment

This is the plan? This will "grow the economy"?

Am I the only one who has a problem with this "plan"?

Let me help you out here, deanie...

1. If you want a real eyeful of potential cuts that would save billions, …

a. The GAO says the federal government made at least $98 billion in ‘improper’ in 2009. White House reports $98B in improper government payments - Nov. 18, 2009

b. Federal auditors rated ever government program, and found that 22% of them, $123 billion in spending, were ineffective! 50 Examples of Government Waste | The Heritage Foundation

c. Did you know that the CBO reports a vast number of cuts that would save a fortune? http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/102xx/doc10294/08-06-BudgetOptions.pdf
Here are a few:

i. The CBO also considered the option of cutting the Airport Improvement Program that provides grants to airports to expand runways and improve security, saying this would reduce spending by $10.7 billion through 2019.

ii. The CBO also considered the option of cutting the Airport Improvement Program that provides grants to airports to expand runways and improve security, saying this would reduce spending by $10.7 billion through 2019.

iii. End subsidized loans to graduate students Ten year savings $18.8 billon
iv. End Department of Energy research on fossil fuels. Ten year savings $7.9 billion.

But none of your response addresses the stated claim to "grow the economy".

Well, then, check out post #5.

 

[Annie]

Some of those cuts that deany is referring to are good things, things that never should have seen the light of day in the first place:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/27/u...l=1&adxnnlx=1298811820-eyTo2mi4rPEusf4UsXB2MA

February 26, 2011
How Budget Battles Go Without the Earmarks
By CARL HULSE

WASHINGTON — The fact that Congress remains a spending disagreement or two away from shutting down the government no doubt strikes some as remarkable. But there is another extraordinary aspect to the fiscal clash unfolding on Capitol Hill: earmarks have disappeared from the budgetary landscape.

It is still sinking in for both those who have lavished money on hometown projects and those who have spent years opposing earmarks that the pork-barrel spending that has driven so many appropriations measures through the House and Senate is, at least for now, at an end...

When House Republicans were searching for cuts to offer Senate Democrats as part of a temporary spending plan to avert a government shutdown, they were able to reach into accounts set aside for earmarks and find nearly $2.8 billion that would have previously gone to water projects, transit programs and construction programs. No earmarks, no need for that money, and the threat of an imminent shutdown was eased.

Lawmakers said the absence of earmarks also allowed for a more freewheeling debate on the House floor during consideration of the Republican plan to slash $61 billion from this year’s budget since Democrats and Republicans were not caught up in protecting the special provisions they had worked so hard to tuck into the spending bill.

“This is a completely new experience, and a good one,” said Representative Jeff Flake, an Arizona Republican who had lost scores of attempts on the House floor to strip earmarks from spending bills.

While spending on earmarks is a tiny portion of the budget, critics like Mr. Flake and Mr. Boehner said they played an insidious role in pushing up federal spending through what is known in legislative terms as logrolling.

Top members of the Appropriations Committee might, for instance, grant a lawmaker’s request for a few million dollars for an important project back home. That lawmaker would then be obligated to support the entire multibillion-dollar bill despite possible reservations. Woe to the person who gets an earmark and then opposes the bill; chances for a future earmark would be somewhere between zero and none. ...

 

[Mad Scientist]

After more than a trillion dollars in government stimulus having had a minimal effect, rdean STILL thinks government is the answer.

 

[Annie]

Looking at the list, here's what I see:

Defund:

Flood preventionOnly federal if the flood plain is regional, not in one state, i.e., Mississippi or Missouri River areas.
housing rehab for the rural poor state or county
cops municipality, county, state
endangered species protection conservation organizations or regional government committees
re-integration of criminals into society state
Family Planning state/local, private organizations
math and science local/state
teaching local/state
reading local/state
National Infrastructure investment define. The Eisenhower system was a great project at the time. Something like that funded with bonds, then each state picking up maintenance costs in the future. Sure. Same with things like the TVA. Of course these types of projects are only doable when the money is there, which it currently isn't.

 

[Rozman]

Republicans would do away with funding for 150 programs including flood prevention ($30 million), multifamily rural housing rehab ($25 million), cops hiring ($298 million), endangered species conservation ($83 million), re-integration of ex-offenders ($108.5 million), family planning ($317.5 million), math and science partnerships ($180.5 million), Teach for America ($18 million), Reading is Fundamental ($24.8 million) and national infrastructure investments ($600 million).

Cantor touts strategy to grow economy

Eric Cantor - one of the Republican "Young Guns".

I want to make sure I understand this list:

Defund:

Flood prevention
housing rehab for the rural poor
cops
endangered species protection
re-integration of criminals into society
Family Planning
math and science
teaching
reading
National Infrastructure investment

This is the plan? This will "grow the economy"?

Am I the only one who has a problem with this "plan"?

The Plan is called.... "The appetizer"

We haven't gotten to the soup course,the salad course,the entree,or the desert,or the brandy or the cigar....

Hold onto you panties Libs...It's gonna be a rough ride.

 

[rdean]

After more than a trillion dollars in government stimulus having had a minimal effect, rdean STILL thinks government is the answer.

Why do you keep saying that? Here is a list of 114 Republican senators and congressmen who are taking credit for "stimulus" created jobs while saying the stimulus created no jobs. Probably the only part of the stimulus that failed is the more than 30% of it that is just tax cuts. All they did was increase the deficit. You can't debate if you refuse to look at the "facts".

114 Lawmakers Block Recovery While Taking Credit For Its Success

Go through the list and point out which ones are wrong. And yes, it's just that "simple".

 

[rdean]

The right wing is missing the point. You can cut all you want, but if the economy isn't growing, and it won't as long as the entire nation's wealth is concentrated in the hands of just 1%, the cuts will never be enough. The economy has to grow.

Cutting support for education is simply carving away at the nation's future. Growing corn and cotton won't be enough.

 

[Annie]

The right wing is missing the point. You can cut all you want, but if the economy isn't growing, and it won't as long as the entire nation's wealth is concentrated in the hands of just 1%, the cuts will never be enough. The economy has to grow.

Cutting support for education is simply carving away at the nation's future. Growing corn and cotton won't be enough.

Putting the issues under the right authority would do a lot to clear the federal deficit. The states or local governments are more responsive to the people, if they don't have the largesse of the Fed as an alternative and master.

 

[rdean]

The right wing is missing the point. You can cut all you want, but if the economy isn't growing, and it won't as long as the entire nation's wealth is concentrated in the hands of just 1%, the cuts will never be enough. The economy has to grow.

Cutting support for education is simply carving away at the nation's future. Growing corn and cotton won't be enough.

Putting the issues under the right authority would do a lot to clear the federal deficit. The states or local governments are more responsive to the people, if they don't have the largesse of the Fed as an alternative and master.

It's more than just "placing the blame". It's about competing ideologies.

One ideology wants growth and education and research and job creation and new technology.

The other ideology wants tax cuts for the wealthy, and spending - but only on the military, and to slash funding for, not only education, but also slash funding for: rebuilding the infrastructure, researching new technology, and they want to destroy unions and remove regulations for clean air and clean water so corporations can squeeze every cent they can out of the country.

This is one of those few cases where there really is two sharply defined ideologies which translates into opposing choices.

You can cut spending all you want, but if the economy isn't growing, it will never be enough.

 

[Dot Com]

The right wing is missing the point. You can cut all you want, but if the economy isn't growing, and it won't as long as the entire nation's wealth is concentrated in the hands of just 1%, the cuts will never be enough. The economy has to grow.

Cutting support for education is simply carving away at the nation's future. Growing corn and cotton won't be enough.

Agreed. Austerity alone, at least the small potato's Cantor has mentioned, aren't the answer; especially the type that further punishes the poor (the conservative's favorite target, reaping minimal gains as a % of the debt) Why is it that when there's an economic downturn, the Repubs go after the lower classes and leave the upper- middle classes and upper- classes out of the solution when their *cough* 'investments', like buying 4- houses to "flip", invariably led to the down-turn in the first place? If Cantor REALLY wanted to look at austerity measures, he could have addressed increasing the retirement age for SS and increasing out-of-pocket-expenses for Medicare as Rand Paul proposed during his campaign.

 

[Annie]

The right wing is missing the point. You can cut all you want, but if the economy isn't growing, and it won't as long as the entire nation's wealth is concentrated in the hands of just 1%, the cuts will never be enough. The economy has to grow.

Cutting support for education is simply carving away at the nation's future. Growing corn and cotton won't be enough.

Putting the issues under the right authority would do a lot to clear the federal deficit. The states or local governments are more responsive to the people, if they don't have the largesse of the Fed as an alternative and master.

It's more than just "placing the blame". It's about competing ideologies.

One ideology wants growth and education and research and job creation and new technology.

The other ideology wants tax cuts for the wealthy, and spending - but only on the military, and to slash funding for, not only education, but also slash funding for: rebuilding the infrastructure, researching new technology, destroying unions and removing regulations for clean air and clean water so corporations can squeeze every cent they can out of the country.

This is one of those few cases where there really is two sharply defined ideologies which translates into opposing choices.

You can cut spending all you want, but if the economy isn't growing, it will never be enough.

I mentioned blame, where? Sides, where? Ideologies, where?

The public is not nearly as incapable as some liberals presume or some Republicans hope. Indeed, the past 4 years have taught some lessons that many under 60 never learned about personal behavior and public domains.

Jobs will follow when the federal government does what it's supposed to and gets out of the areas where it has no business. Don't go all apeshit that implies no regulations, it doesn't.

 

[johnrocks]

Those cuts are akin to yanking one pubic hair out, it might sting a little but you wouldn't even miss it. With a budget approaching four trillion;yeah, I have a problem with it; it's a joke, we need MUCH deeper spending cuts.

 

[rdean]

The right wing is missing the point. You can cut all you want, but if the economy isn't growing, and it won't as long as the entire nation's wealth is concentrated in the hands of just 1%, the cuts will never be enough. The economy has to grow.

Cutting support for education is simply carving away at the nation's future. Growing corn and cotton won't be enough.

Agreed. Austerity alone isn't the answer especially the type that further punishes the poor (the conservatives favorite target, reaping minimal gains as a % of the debt) Why is it that when there's an economic downturn, the Repubs go after the lower classes and leave the upper- middle classes and upper- classes out of the solution when their *cough* 'investments' invariably led to the down-turn in the first place? If Cantor REALLY wanted to look at austerity measures, he could have addressed increasing the retirement age for SS and increasing out-of-pocket-expenses for Medicare as Rand Paul proposed during his campaign.

I believe there is more to it than going after SS and Medicare. First, if they want roll back a program, the Republicans should be rolling back their "drugs for votes" bill passed under Bush through RECONCILIATION that some estimates say will cost 5 to 7 trillion dollars.

Second, the first law Republicans should change is the one keeping states and HMOs from purchasing "bulk" medicine. Other countries will consolidate their drug requirements and purchase in bulk which drives down the cost. Republicans made sure this can't happen here. Every HMO can only purchase for that HMO.

Republicans have made sure everything in this country is slanted towards business making lots and lots of money.

As far as SS, do right wingers really want to see 70 old police or firemen or medics? Here in Illinois, there are more than 700 police between 60 and 65 (I previously published that link after being challenged by a right winger). So we want them to be between 65 and 70?

What about people who never paid into SS who get it? I'm not talking widows or kids of those who paid in, but those who gamed the system.

What about people who have 5 million dollars or more? What is a few hundred a month to them?

People paid into SS their entire working lives. What about them?

And what about our military? If Republicans weren't so hellbent on tying us to foreign oil (why is that?), we have the technology to create all the energy we need. Screw the middle east. Unfortunately, they screw us.

There are sharp differences between the two parties. Very sharp.

 

[Mad Scientist]

After more than a trillion dollars in government stimulus having had a minimal effect, rdean STILL thinks government is the answer.

Why do you keep saying that? Here is a list of 114 Republican senators and congressmen who are taking credit for "stimulus" created jobs while saying the stimulus created no jobs. Probably the only part of the stimulus that failed is the more than 30% of it that is just tax cuts. All they did was increase the deficit. You can't debate if you refuse to look at the "facts".

114 Lawmakers Block Recovery While Taking Credit For Its Success

Go through the list and point out which ones are wrong. And yes, it's just that "simple".

What makes you think I'm on the Republicans side?

The Republicans spent too much under Bush and now Democrats and Republicans are spending too much under Obama. You have to get off this right/left argument you've been doing. There isn't a dimes bit of difference between Bush and Obama. Or Democrat and Republican for that matter.

The economy is never gonna' grow at a rate need to fund ObamaCare (6-8% needed) when government is expanding like it is. And have you noticed Obama is positioning us for a war with Libya? We can't afford two wars so you wanna' tell me how is three is better?

We need to cut the corporate tax rate. I know, Liberals like you hate to hear that but when Japan cuts it's corporate tax rate 15% this year guess who will have the highest rate in the world? Hint: It'll be the U.S. You always complain on these boards about jobs being shipped overseas, well now you can actually do something about it by supporting tax cuts to start bringing them back.

Here's some other things you can do:
Support tariffs on imported goods. Did you know that most of our so called "trading partners" have tariffs on US goods? Turnabout is fair play.

Look into and support candidates like Ron Paul who actually support smaller government.

"But voting for a third Party is like throwing my vote away". No it's not! Voting for Bush or Obama is throwing your vote away! Look what they've done!

Mark my words. When Obama leaves office, he and "W" will do a tour together just like Bush senior and Clinton did. You just watch, them fuckers are all the same and that will prove it.

 

[rdean]

After more than a trillion dollars in government stimulus having had a minimal effect, rdean STILL thinks government is the answer.

Why do you keep saying that? Here is a list of 114 Republican senators and congressmen who are taking credit for "stimulus" created jobs while saying the stimulus created no jobs. Probably the only part of the stimulus that failed is the more than 30% of it that is just tax cuts. All they did was increase the deficit. You can't debate if you refuse to look at the "facts".

114 Lawmakers Block Recovery While Taking Credit For Its Success

Go through the list and point out which ones are wrong. And yes, it's just that "simple".

What makes you think I'm on the Republicans side?

The Republicans spent too much under Bush and now Democrats and Republicans are spending too much under Obama. You have to get off this right/left argument you've been doing. There isn't a dimes bit of difference between Bush and Obama.

The economy is never gonna' grow at a rate need to fund ObamaCare (6-8% needed) when government is expanding like it is. And have you noticed Obama is positioning us for a war with Libya? We can't afford two wars so you wanna' tell me how is three is better?

We need to cut the corporate tax rate. I know, Liberals like you hate to hear that but when Japan cuts it's corporate tax rate 15% this year guess who will have the highest rate in the world? Hint: It'll be the U.S. You always complain on these boards about jobs being shipped overseas, well now you can actually do something about it by supporting tax cuts to start bringing them back.

Here's some other things you can do:
Support tariffs on imported goods. Did you know that most of our so called "trading partners" have tariffs on US goods? Turnabout is fair play.

Look into and support candidates like Ron Paul who actually support smaller government.

"But voting for a third Party is like throwing my vote away". No it's not! Voting for Bush or Obama is throwing your vote away! Look what they've done!

Mark my words. When Obama leaves office, he and "W" will do a tour together just like Bush senior and Clinton did. You just watch, them fuckers are all the same and that will prove it.

You are on the Republicans side.

War with "Libya"? That's ridiculous.

Republicans blocked a bill that would entice companies to bring jobs back to this country.

The bill under consideration Tuesday would have ended tax deductions for expenses incurred when companies shutter U.S. operations and shift the work abroad; imposed a new tax on products once made in the United States but now manufactured by foreign workers; and offered employers a two-year payroll tax holiday on jobs repatriated from overseas.

Senate GOP blocks bill that would promote less outsourcing

The Health Care bill will never be as good as it can be with Republicans blocking it. Their only real suggestion is to remove restrictions on cross state insurance. As if New York could regulated health care from California. That wouldn't make it better, it would make it easier to swindle. How many skimmed policies does it take to pay for a single 120 million dollar paycheck for the CEO of Cigna? And they don't even make anything, they are death panels and middlemen.

As far as our trading partners, they work through the Chamber of Commerce, the group that contributes more than 90% to Republicans, to make sure they can continue to swindle the middle class.

Ron Paul? I could never vote for someone who believes evolution is a lie. They have scrambled eggs for brains. Who knows what other kooky ideas might be in those little minds.