Major Terror Attack On The Uk

[Comrade]

A lot of this will be decided by who actually set off the bombs. Al Qaeda (or anyone like that) doesn't "warn" people before the blasts.

This is something the IRA does, especially in England and Ireland.

Scotland Yard could have discovered this information through regular "intel" - from there, they warned the embassies in the area.

I'll go out on a limb here, but say that certain individuals who frequent the Finsbury Mosque are behind this attack. You heard it from me first.

 

[Comrade]

At least 45 people now confirmed dead... and at least over 300 seriously injured.

 

[onedomino]

That whole sordid affair in Spain post attack was a product of subterfuge and misinformation provided by the socialist media predominant in Spain. I did an extensive amount of research and debate on another board which I loath to return to, and am too tired to repeat here. But rest assured, the British are no fools. They'll rally. Or else we'll taunt them. And the Brits won't stand to be taunted for being sissy boys by the Americans. :cof:

I agree about the leftist Spanish media. They made it seem like the conservative government had something to hide and was falsely blaming ETA terrorists. Of course that was not true. The conservative government was pointing to Islamic terrorists on the very first night of the attack. But the damage was done and the hysterical, lying Spanish media managed to swing an election that was going for the conservatives over to the socialists all in a matter of three days. The polls moved more than 10 points toward the socialists in a three day period. Al Qaeda managed to blast the Spanish into an irrational state of fear from which they have yet to recover.

 

[dmp]

b...b..bbb-but Islam is a religion of PEACE...



Godspeed to those injured....today, I am a Londoner

 

[Said1]

Any word from anyone representing the peace loving protesters?

 

[Said1]

I'll go out on a limb here, but say that certain individuals who frequent the Finsbury Mosque are behind this attack. You heard it from me first.

What's so special about that particular Mosque?

 

[CSM]

What's so special about that particular Mosque?

Nothing...it is just like every other mosque whose clerics espouse the killing of the infidel...and that would be ALL mosques, I suspect.

 

[freeandfun1]

Do you think this will be a wake-up call to Europe about the reality of terrorism, or do you think they will just go on thinking that if you appease these guys and give them no trouble, they will leave you alone?

Madrid should have been but it wasn't. They will undoubtedly blame the US of course....

 

[onedomino]

What's so special about that particular Mosque?

Closely associated with sociopathic, murderous Islamic radicals, such as the "millennium bomber" (the dirtball that crossed over from Canada into the US with the intent to blow up LAX) and the "shoe bomber."

 

[Comrade]

I agree about the leftist Spanish media. They made it seem like the conservative government had something to hide and was falsely blaming ETA terrorists. Of course that was not true. The conservative government was pointing to Islamic terrorists on the very first night of the attack. But the damage was done and the hysterical, lying Spanish media managed to swing an election that was going for the conservatives over to the socialists all in a matter of three days. The polls moved more than 10 points toward the socialists in a three day period. Al Qaeda managed to blast the Spanish into an irrational state of fear from which they have yet to recover.

Onedomino, this is exactly the same argument I independently arrived at after reading the current AP reports from Spain during the short few days between the attacks and the election. And I tried to logically debate these observations on the same thread I started before I found the USMB. I feel you might have actually read that thread, given how close your observations reflect my own.

 

[Said1]

Closely associated with sociopathic, murderous Islamic radicals, such as the "millennium bomber" (the dirtball that crossed over from Canada into the US with the intent to blow up LAX) and the "shoe bomber."

Really? Got a link, I'd like to read that. (and here I thought I knew everything. )

 

[Comrade]

What's so special about that particular Mosque?

The trial for their radical Islamic fundamentalist leader opened 48 hours ago:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050705/ap_on_re_eu/britain_radical_cleric_2

Trial for Radical Cleric Opens in U.K. By JILL LAWLESS, Associated Press Writer
Tue Jul 5, 6:45 PM ET

LONDON - Neatly shorn and bespectacled, Britain's best-known Islamic radical appeared in court Tuesday, charged with encouraging the murder of Jews and other non-Muslims.

The fiery cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri sat uncharacteristically silent in the dock at the Old Bailey as lawyers outlined legal arguments ahead of his jury trial.

...........

Al-Masri, 47, is former head preacher at London's Finsbury Park mosque, which has been linked to terrorist suspects including alleged Sept. 11, 2001, plotter Zacarias Moussaoui and "shoe bomber" Richard Reid.

Screw the WTO protestors, they're practically harmless compared the element lurking and growing among the hardline mosques in the western world.

I'll be the first to say with confidence that these actions will be directly linked to those who worshiped at this mosque and reacted to his arrest and prosecution by attacking London. We'll see if I'm right.

 

[dmp]

Really? Got a link, I'd like to read that. (and here I thought I knew everything. )

http://news.google.com/news?q=Finsbury Mosque &hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wn

 

[Said1]

Thanks all. Will get back to this later. Gotta go!

 

[onedomino]

Onedomino, this is exactly the same argument I independently arrived at after reading the current AP reports from Spain during the short few days between the attacks and the election. And I tried to logically debate these observations on the same thread I started before I found the USMB. I feel you might have actually read that thread, given how close your observations reflect my own.

I debated NATO Air on this topic. At the time, he was blaming the conservative Spanish government for falsely blaming ETA. I provided him with the appropriate links and he soon realized that the leftist Spanish media lied about the response of the government in a calculated attempt to swing the Spanish election to Zappo (aka. Mr. Bean) and the socialists. There are a lot of interesting details concerning this case of serendipitous cooperation between the Spanish media and Al Qaeda. Be that as it may, the Spanish electorate collapsed in fear before the terrorists; it was disgusting and Spaniards should be ashamed, but they are not.

 

[dmp]

I debated NATO Air on this topic. At the time, he was blaming the conservative Spanish government for falsely blaming ETA. I provided him with the appropriate links and he soon realized that the leftist Spanish media lied about the response of the government in a calculated attempt to swing the Spanish election to Zappo (aka. Mr. Bean) and the socialists. There are a lot of interesting details concerning this case of serendipitous cooperation between the Spanish media and Al Qaeda. Be that as it may, the Spanish electorate collapsed in fear before the terrorists; it was disgusting and Spaniards should be ashamed, but they are not.

There is little shame nowadays. :-/

 

[Comrade]

I debated NATO Air on this topic. At the time, he was blaming the conservative Spanish government for falsely blaming ETA. I provided him with the appropriate links and he soon realized that the leftist Spanish media lied about the response of the government in a calculated attempt to swing the Spanish election to Zappo (aka. Mr. Bean) and the socialists.

YES!!! Absolutely what I saw from the initial AP media reports, and I wasn't prompted by reading any of the right wing blogs like LGF to arrive at that conclusion back then, because I had yet to discover them. But I certainly argued the same you did, on another board.

 

[goatboy]

I dont think this will have any affect at all, i would still have gone to new york after 911 and i will still go to london which is just down the road from me.
Terrorism doesnt work no matter who tries it. sad for the people who lost there life and there families but this is just another hurdle.

 

[dmp]

I dont think this will have any affect at all, i would still have gone to new york after 911 and i will still go to london which is just down the road from me.
Terrorism doesnt work no matter who tries it. sad for the people who lost there life and there families but this is just another hurdle.

Good for you - Godspeed to you and yours.

 

[USViking]

I am afraid the Free World will be involved in the War on Terror
for the rest of our lives, and would be involved in it regardless
of conventional military operations anywhere in the world.

No sensible observer has any objection to the conventional Afghanistan War.

It will be endlessly debated whether or not the Iraq war materially assisted the cause of terror
by furthering terrorist recruitment.

I myself tend to think not, because of the proven record of the terrorists
going back well before 9/11, and between 9/11 and the beginning of the
Iraq War, with the Bali bombing of Oct. 2002 being an outstanding example.

See this link for other examples:

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0884893.html

A better case might be made that the Iraq War has assisted terror by spreading Free World resources too thinly.
I myself thought at its start that the percieved risks justified the war, and that it fully qualifies as a just war,
even though the risks now appear to have been illusory.

There have been cumulatively several hundred thousand Free World personnel on the ground in Iraq for over two years now.

It is possible, if unprovable, that several hundred thousand additional police personnel
could have averted what happened in London, and in other places.

Whether or not we remain commited in Iraq, and I still feel we should,
we are God Damn well going to need those several hundred thousand additional police personnel worldwide,
if we are to to minimize our losses.

I truly hope we find the will to do so.