Mahomet's Dark Past

[JStone]

Mahomet married his wife Aisha when she was just 6 and he was 53, which in most cultures would be classified as pedophilia. While marriage at an early age was not unusual at that time, the ages between male and female were similar. Mahomet was 53 when he married 6 year old Aisha. Islamic scripture says that Mahomet even confessed to dreaming about young Aisha in addition to making her wash his semen-stained pants.

Is Mahomet's dark past taught to Muslims? Can he really be The Perfect Man?

Ibn Ishaq, The Life of Muhammad...

Muhammad married ‘A’isha in Mecca when she was a child of six and lived with her in Medina when she was nine or ten. She was the only virgin that he married. Her father, Abu Bakr, married her to him and the apostle gave her four hundred dirhams.

Sahih Bukhari Hadeeth...

Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

Sahih Bukhari Hadeeth

Narrated 'Aisha: That the Prophet said to her, "You have been shown to me twice in my dream. I saw you pictured on a piece of silk and some-one said (to me). 'This is your wife.' When I uncovered the picture, I saw that it was yours. I said, 'If this is from Allah, it will be done.

Sahih Bukhari Hadeeth

Narrated 'Aisha: I used to wash the traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces of water were still on it (water spots were still visible).

 

[Mr. H.]

Aishur wish you'd shut the fuck up.

 

[JStone]

Aishur wish you'd shut the fuck up.

6 year olds are not the boss of me

 

[Mr. H.]

Is that why you gave her over to Mahomet?

 

[JStone]

Is that why you gave her over to Mahomet?

You did

 

[Avatar4321]

You realize that marrying someone and consumating the marriage don't necessarily happen at the same time right? There are many cultures where people are married at a young age, but then the relationship isnt consumated until they are much older.

In order to be a pedophile, you actually have to have sex. Marriage does not equal sex. Im sure there are countless married men who can testify to that.

 

[Mr. H.]

JStone- I'm not sure who is more reprehensible- you or Mohamet

 

[JStone]

You realize that marrying someone and consumating the marriage don't necessarily happen at the same time right? There are many cultures where people are married at a young age, but then the relationship isnt consumated until they are much older.

In order to be a pedophile, you actually have to have sex. Marriage does not equal sex. Im sure there are countless married men who can testify to that.

No civilized culture has ever sanctioned a 53 year old man marrying a 6 year old girl. Child marriages have been between males and females of similar ages.

 

[JStone]

You realize that marrying someone and consumating the marriage don't necessarily happen at the same time right? There are many cultures where people are married at a young age, but then the relationship isnt consumated until they are much older.

In order to be a pedophile, you actually have to have sex. Marriage does not equal sex. Im sure there are countless married men who can testify to that.

Mahomet consummated the marriage to Aisha when she was only 9 and he would have been in his mid-50s.

He confessed to dreaming of her when she was 6 or younger and he was in his 50s.

Were Mahomet alive today, he'd be in jail for child molestation, except, perhaps, in muslime countries.

 

[Mr. H.]

I think you're the one that's fixated on Aisha, for all the fucking threads you start.
Goddamn perv.

 

[JStone]

I think you're the one that's fixated on Aisha, for all the fucking threads you start.
Goddamn perv.

You are

 

[JStone]

JStone- I'm not sure who is more reprehensible- you or Mohamet

You are

 

[Avatar4321]

You realize that marrying someone and consumating the marriage don't necessarily happen at the same time right? There are many cultures where people are married at a young age, but then the relationship isnt consumated until they are much older.

In order to be a pedophile, you actually have to have sex. Marriage does not equal sex. Im sure there are countless married men who can testify to that.

Mahomet consummated the marriage to Aisha when she was only 9 and he would have been in his mid-50s.

He confessed to dreaming of her when she was 6 or younger and he was in his 50s.

Were Mahomet alive today, he'd be in jail for child molestation, except, perhaps, in muslime countries.

Oh. So you were there to witness the consumation? No...

Then you clearly have a photograph or video? No...

Maybe some document from a witness or confession from Mohammad? No...

Then you've got nothing.

 

[JStone]

You realize that marrying someone and consumating the marriage don't necessarily happen at the same time right? There are many cultures where people are married at a young age, but then the relationship isnt consumated until they are much older.

In order to be a pedophile, you actually have to have sex. Marriage does not equal sex. Im sure there are countless married men who can testify to that.

Mahomet consummated the marriage to Aisha when she was only 9 and he would have been in his mid-50s.

He confessed to dreaming of her when she was 6 or younger and he was in his 50s.

Were Mahomet alive today, he'd be in jail for child molestation, except, perhaps, in muslime countries.

So you were there to witness the consumation? No...

Then you clearly have a photograph or video? No...

Maybe some document from a witness or confession from Mohammad? No...

Then you've got nothing.

Er, the hadith which recorded aisha having been 9 when mahomet consummated the marriage is second only to the quran in its sacredness in islime.

Bukhari is "sahih" which is authoritative.

Sahih Bukhari Hadeeth

Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old

Now, you know. Feel better about yourself?

 

[Artevelde]

You realize that marrying someone and consumating the marriage don't necessarily happen at the same time right? There are many cultures where people are married at a young age, but then the relationship isnt consumated until they are much older.

In order to be a pedophile, you actually have to have sex. Marriage does not equal sex. Im sure there are countless married men who can testify to that.

Correct point.

 

[JStone]

You realize that marrying someone and consumating the marriage don't necessarily happen at the same time right? There are many cultures where people are married at a young age, but then the relationship isnt consumated until they are much older.

In order to be a pedophile, you actually have to have sex. Marriage does not equal sex. Im sure there are countless married men who can testify to that.

Correct point.

Well, no, since 55 year old mahomet consummated the marriage to aisha when she was 9 according to islimic scripture.

And, mahomet dreamed of 6 year old aisha according to islimic scripture.

The Perfect Man in islime.

 

[amrchaos]

Why do you keep referring to this concept of "Perfect man"

Being a prophet does not confer to being "perfect" in any way. Reference the Old Testament.

Moses was a stutter and relied on his brothe Aron

Abraham was a trouble maker, destroying his relatives idols and selling his wife are cases in point

Adam was disobedient and cowardly, preferring to disobey God and then blaming Eve for his transgressions.

The God of Abraham does not make "Perfect" Prophets. That tends to suggest something about the other two religions, does it not?
(There is a more fundemental and theological reason why the Judaic God does not make perfect beings.)

 

[Avatar4321]

Hadiths arent considered scripture.

Nor is any of the hadiths you cited actual eye witness testimony of anything. You have at best, second hand statements that may not have even orginated in the same century. You think you can slur millions of people living now by attacking a man who lived over1300 years ago based on second hand evidence, at best?

Not exactly your best evidence. Aren't the actions of the radical extremists enough justification for your hate? You really need to smear someone whose been dead for centuries on weak evidence to support your position?

 

[Stash]

Why do you keep referring to this concept of "Perfect man"

Being a prophet does not confer to being "perfect" in any way. Reference the Old Testament.

Moses was a stutter and relied on his brothe Aron

Abraham was a trouble maker, destroying his relatives idols and selling his wife are cases in point

Adam was disobedient and cowardly, preferring to disobey God and then blaming Eve for his transgressions.

The God of Abraham does not make "Perfect" Prophets. That tends to suggest something about the other two religions, does it not?
(There is a more fundemental and theological reason why the Judaic God does not make perfect beings.)

These people in the Bible are not referred to as perfect, but Muslims refer to Mohammed as the perfect man as shown on this Islamic website.
The Doctrine of the Perfect Man (Al-Insan al-Kamil) and its Significance Today

 

[Stash]

Hadiths arent considered scripture.

Nor is any of the hadiths you cited actual eye witness testimony of anything. You have at best, second hand statements that may not have even orginated in the same century. You think you can slur millions of people living now by attacking a man who lived over1300 years ago based on second hand evidence, at best?

Not exactly your best evidence. Aren't the actions of the radical extremists enough justification for your hate? You really need to smear someone whose been dead for centuries on weak evidence to support your position?

You don't consider Hadiths to be scripture, but most Muslim scholars do. The Hadiths are to the Quran what the Gospels are to the Torah. The most reliable stories originated with those who knew Mohammed.