Madison schools will add 20 minutes a day to make up for SICK OUTS

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    I'm sure the little kiddies will understand that this happened because the protesting teachers were doing it for, the chiiiiillllllrrrreeeen.

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    Students in the Madison School District will have up to 20 minutes of additional classroom time each day starting Monday to make up for four days canceled last month because teachers were attending protests.

    Because no additional days will be added to the calendar, most teachers will not receive additional compensation for that time, district spokesman Ken Syke said.

    Madison schools were closed to students Feb. 16-18 and Feb. 21 because a significant number of teachers called in sick to attend protests against a state proposal to limit public employee collective bargaining. Gov. Scott Walker signed it into law Friday.

    The School Board reached an agreement with Madison Teachers Inc. over the weekend that allowed the district to set the makeup calendar. The agreement also ensures teachers with unexcused absences will not be paid for those days and that teachers who submitted fraudulent sick notes will be suspended.

    The district has not yet released the number of teachers that missed school to work those days. The district received more than 1,000 sick notes, including some from doctors who were handing them out at the Capitol protests, assistant legal counsel Matt Bell said.

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    Madison schools will add 20 minutes to school day to make up for sick-outs
     
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    Glad to see they're making up the missed time and doing it without pay.
     
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    What about sitters, bus drivers, parents work schedules, after school activities etc. ?

    Selfish doesn't even scratch the surface of these teachers actions
     
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    SITTERS:
    Since the sitters were paid for the time schools were closed, they received extra pay for that time. Now they will receive less pay by 20-minutes a day to the end of the year so parents will not have to pay for that time. In the end the parents pay the same and the sitters earn the same. That worked out well.

    Bus Drivers
    Bud driver routes aren't changing. So the time to drive from point A to point B shouldn't change.

    Parents Work Schedules
    What about them. As you brought up with "sitters" most kids are going to go to either sitters or after school day care and the parents will be picking them up from there so it wouldn't have a great impact on parents schedules.

    After School Activities
    Excuse me, aren't schools supposed to focus on learning - you know the 3-R's. After school activities should be a secondary consideration to ensuring that students have instructional time.




    Basically this is the same type of change we have around here sometimes because of heavy snow using more inclimate weather days then expected. Typically employees are paid for those days when they occur and then schedules are modified (if need be) to account for the time needed to be made up. During the time being made up, employees receive no extra pay because they were already paid for the time.


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    LOL, we have snow days to make up too, NOT DAYS to make up for PROTESTING TEACHERS.

    any excuse will do I guess
     
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    In my world all that would have mattered, in yours only teachers do.

    Sick out and snow days - sad attempt at justifying selfish teachers.
     
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    Not making excuses as I don't agree with the teachers abandoning their jobs to protest just as I don't agree with legislators dashing across state lines to avoid meeting the quorum requirement. I think most of us that were in the military tend to think about doing the job first.


    What I was doing was addressing the specific points asked about by the poster.



    Now is there something in my post that seems incorrect?

    1. Will sitters now be paid less by 20-minutes in the future but will have likely already been paid for time during the protests?

    2. Does a 20-minute shift change bus routes?

    3. Do most children go to either a sitter or after-school program because parents already work?

    4. Do you think after school activities are more important then core learning?​



    Feel free to point out any of the list you disagree with.



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    Oh, the horror!
     
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    yeah, the horror.

    screw the children, the parents and all the others Teachers who didn't join the protest.
     
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    Except for the sitters whose income has been reduced. They earn less money. How compassionate of you to be so dismissive.


    That depends upon the nature of the bus drivers work arrangements. If they work a split shift and the second shift can start later, then there is no impact. If the second shift is lengthened due to starting the routes later, then there will be an added cost. If the 20 minutes later schedule pushes busses into any local evening commute congestion, then the trips will take longer.

    With your disdain for the impact of government policies on individual lives, you'd fit quite well as a low level functionary in an Obama Bureaucracy.

    You have no idea what the individual impacts are. Kids often have after school lessons, sports activities, catechism classes, etc. with parents transporting them from activity to activity. This change will likely cause a cascading impact of "unintended consequences" that are inconvenient and damaging to a wide variety of people.

    The students wouldn't be face in losing after school activities, which are healthy ways to round out a child's development, if a bunch of selfish union thugs hadn't shut down the school for days and days.


    B'loney. Snow is an act of nature. This shut down was the result of the willful, bad faith conduct of the teachers and their public employee union cronies.
     
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