Maddow: Without unions 'Democrats do not have a way to compete'

[jillian]

Why is that? Are their ideas not enough?

in the age of citizens united? surely you aren't as stupid as the o/p

 

[RightWingFerret]

Maddows is 1/32nd Wart Hog.

 

[Avatar4321]

Why is that? Are their ideas not enough?

in the age of citizens united? surely you aren't as stupid as the o/p

So somehow everyone being able to criticize their political leaders somehow makes you unable to argue ideas?

 

[SniperFire]

Why is that? Are their ideas not enough?

in the age of citizens united? surely you aren't as stupid as the o/p

So somehow everyone being able to criticize their political leaders somehow makes you unable to argue ideas?

Jillian must not be bright enough to turn off the TV if she does not want to watch political ads.

 

[RightWingFerret]

so tell me, when Maddow goes into a public building, which restroom does he/she/it use?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Rachael Maddow comment form the OP link...

“Unions are not democratic organizations, but unions’ work is beneficial to the Democratic Party. They are the only institution of any size on the liberal side of the equation. Corporate America, all of corporate America, is on the Republican side."

Top Contributors to Barack Obama | OpenSecrets

University of California $1,648,685
Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
Harvard University $878,164
Microsoft Corp $852,167
Google Inc $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Time Warner $624,618
Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
Stanford University $595,716
National Amusements Inc $563,798
WilmerHale LLP $550,668
Columbia University $547,852
Skadden, Arps et al $543,539
UBS AG $532,674
IBM Corp $532,372
General Electric $529,855
US Government $513,308
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295

 

[Polk]

LOL! Waiting to see if Pol k refutes. So,me how, doubt it.

Wisconsin recall vote suggests power of spending | HeraldNet.com - Nation/World

31 to 4.

So what happened to the 21 million the Unions spent in WI... Did they help Walker as much as the Democrat? Or did the money just disappear?

It's mythical. The only source is a claim from Breitbart.com. That's about as credible as citing to Pravda.

 

[clevergirl]

The blow is real. Public union money going to politicians they elect, who they then bargain with for goodies, has been dealt a death blow. The sad fact is that democrats think this is bad news.

What democrats need to do is shed the communist minded progressives of their party and get back to the blue democrats. Those loyal democrats who believe in America and who want to encourage capitalism instead of dismantling it and sucking it dry.

Democrats need to start courting job creators.

 

[Polk]

good, because you quoting Maddow is making you look silly

I tend to not spend my time in front of the idiot box. I was working from memory, so I went back to check the numbers. I was a little off. It was 7-to-1, which is still a huge edge.

Wisconsin recall vote suggests power of spending | HeraldNet.com - Nation/World

You're lying to yourself if you think money is the reason Walker won.

I think Walker won because a fair number of people disagree with his actions on collective bargaining, but didn't see the recall as legitimate. It's pretty outrageous to claim a 7-to-1 spending edge had no impact though.

 

[Polk]

LOL! Waiting to see if Pol k refutes. So,me how, doubt it.

Wisconsin recall vote suggests power of spending | HeraldNet.com - Nation/World

31 to 4.

yeah RIGHT..
You're really are going to push that, aren't you..
oh well

Yes, because it's the truth. Sorry that doesn't fit with the story you want to tell.

 

[oreo]

I finally agree with the sadcow dude!

Rachel Maddow Reveals the Hidden Truth About Wisconsin Protests | From Dana's Guests | DanaRoc.com

I think that is what most of us have believed for a long time--I just never thought it would actually come out of Rachel Maddow's mouth--

 

[buckeye45_73]

Is Rachel Maddow into lipstick lesbians or the butch kind. I'm curious

 

[GHook93]

Try to get a job in a union plant in IL. They cant make you join but if want a job you will, the harrasment would get overwhelming, and even if did'nt join you still have to pay dues. So it might as well be a closed shop. They wont let in non-union contractors as well.

Not true, IL is not right to work. You don't have to have a prerequisite of joining the Union, but Union membership is required shortly after you take the job. Either way Union dues are subtracted from your paycheck right away.

 

[GHook93]

You cannot be forced to join a union. You can be required to pay agency fees, but that is a requirement your employer imposes on you,

not the union.

You have never heard of a closed shop?

Have you?

"A "closed shop" became illegal in the United States with the passage of the Taft-Hartley Act of 1947."

Closed Shop

Damn Smokey there are three types!

Closed shops - Which requires Union membership before even applying! Made illegal, but this goes on regardless in big Union states like IL. You think when they get an application they don't look at the Union membership list before granting an interview? LOL, it's well know in IL that if you want a Union job, then you better have been a paying Union member for at least months. But I digress.

Union Shop (Non-Right to Work States) - You must join the Union shortly after you are hired (many times it could be within days or weeks). Regardless Union Dues are subtracted from you paycheck involuntarily right away!

Open Shop (Right to Work) - You have the option of whether to join the Union or not. No employer or Union can force you. Lastly you have the option of whether to pay the Union Dues or not!

 

[NLT]

Is Rachel Maddow into lipstick lesbians or the butch kind. I'm curious

Fat fat sloppy ones google rachel maddows girlfriend.

 

[GHook93]

Rachael Maddow comment form the OP link...

“Unions are not democratic organizations, but unions’ work is beneficial to the Democratic Party. They are the only institution of any size on the liberal side of the equation. Corporate America, all of corporate America, is on the Republican side."

Top Contributors to Barack Obama | OpenSecrets

University of California $1,648,685
Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
Harvard University $878,164
Microsoft Corp $852,167
Google Inc $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Time Warner $624,618
Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
Stanford University $595,716
National Amusements Inc $563,798
WilmerHale LLP $550,668
Columbia University $547,852
Skadden, Arps et al $543,539
UBS AG $532,674
IBM Corp $532,372
General Electric $529,855
US Government $513,308
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295

Goldman Sachs: 58% of donations since 1990 cycle have gone to Republicans; 2/3rds of money this cycle to Republicans
JPMorgan Chase: donations since 1990 split between two parties; 2/3rds of money this cycle to Republicans
Citigroup: donations since 1990 split between two parties; 3/5ths of money this cycle to Republicans
UBS: 58% of donations since 1990 cycle have gone to Republicans; 2/3rds of money this cycle to Republicans
General Electric: donations since 1990 split between two parties; 3/5ths of money this cycle to Republicans

Wow in the the face of facts you become a denier! Glad to see you made assertions without a any sources!

 

[ClosedCaption]

Rachael Maddow comment form the OP link...

“Unions are not democratic organizations, but unions’ work is beneficial to the Democratic Party. They are the only institution of any size on the liberal side of the equation. Corporate America, all of corporate America, is on the Republican side."

Top Contributors to Barack Obama | OpenSecrets

University of California $1,648,685
Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
Harvard University $878,164
Microsoft Corp $852,167
Google Inc $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Time Warner $624,618
Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
Stanford University $595,716
National Amusements Inc $563,798
WilmerHale LLP $550,668
Columbia University $547,852
Skadden, Arps et al $543,539
UBS AG $532,674
IBM Corp $532,372
General Electric $529,855
US Government $513,308
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295

Are these figures for individual contributions or from company PACS?

 

[peach174]

Rachael Maddow comment form the OP link...



Top Contributors to Barack Obama | OpenSecrets

Goldman Sachs: 58% of donations since 1990 cycle have gone to Republicans; 2/3rds of money this cycle to Republicans
JPMorgan Chase: donations since 1990 split between two parties; 2/3rds of money this cycle to Republicans
Citigroup: donations since 1990 split between two parties; 3/5ths of money this cycle to Republicans
UBS: 58% of donations since 1990 cycle have gone to Republicans; 2/3rds of money this cycle to Republicans
General Electric: donations since 1990 split between two parties; 3/5ths of money this cycle to Republicans

Wow in the the face of facts you become a denier! Glad to see you made assertions without a any sources!

Polk reversed the actual facts on what was listed.

 

[GHook93]

Looks like companies and they contributed big time to Barry Boy.

Breaking: companies give large donations to candidate that is almost certain to win.

News Flash: Every election there are two candidates. Both get a lot of contributions and one always wins and one always loses!

 

[Polk]

Rachael Maddow comment form the OP link...



Top Contributors to Barack Obama | OpenSecrets

Goldman Sachs: 58% of donations since 1990 cycle have gone to Republicans; 2/3rds of money this cycle to Republicans
JPMorgan Chase: donations since 1990 split between two parties; 2/3rds of money this cycle to Republicans
Citigroup: donations since 1990 split between two parties; 3/5ths of money this cycle to Republicans
UBS: 58% of donations since 1990 cycle have gone to Republicans; 2/3rds of money this cycle to Republicans
General Electric: donations since 1990 split between two parties; 3/5ths of money this cycle to Republicans

Wow in the the face of facts you become a denier! Glad to see you made assertions without a any sources!

It's from the exact same source he pulled his numbers from.