Maddow: Without unions 'Democrats do not have a way to compete'

[saveliberty]

The bullies got a beatdown.

tissue?

 

[Avatar4321]

Then perhaps they should try actually doing something to make the nation better.

 

[Stephanie]

Doesn't matter how good your ideas are if you're being outspent 10-to-1

Walker didn't ask for this recall, he was FORCED to defend himself against this..
the stupid of this he outspent the idiots who brought this recall on the people of Wisconsin is just so friggen laughable...do you really think people are buying that shit, I mean REALLY

 

[Polk]

Doesn't matter how good your ideas are if you're being outspent 10-to-1

Walker didn't ask for this recall, he was FORCED to defend himself against this..
the stupid of this he outspent the idiots who brought this recall on the people of Wisconsin is just so friggen laughable...do you really think people are buying that shit, I mean REALLY

No, I've given up a long time ago on getting Republicans to buy math. They're just not interested in the stuff.

 

[Stephanie]

Doesn't matter how good your ideas are if you're being outspent 10-to-1

Walker didn't ask for this recall, he was FORCED to defend himself against this..
the stupid of this he outspent the idiots who brought this recall on the people of Wisconsin is just so friggen laughable...do you really think people are buying that shit, I mean REALLY

No, I've given up a long time ago on getting Republicans to buy math. They're just not interested in the stuff.

good, because you quoting Maddow is making you look silly

 

[Avorysuds]

It's amazing all of this is because people... that is the citizens of the US were given nothing more than an option as to either join or not join a public union when they got a job. All it took was giving people that option and 70% of the people left the public union in that state.

There was no controlling the masses, in fact it freed the masses, the union literally had control of the masses as you had no choice at all but to give the unions money you earned weather you agreed with how they spent it or not.

Breaking the monopoly was in fact a great day in America for the people because it might be one of the single biggest crackdowns on corruption in political history.

 

[Annie]

Unions are a good thing. When people of their own free will, opt to join a union, pay dues and accept that management is going to align with one political party (Democrats), who can argue with that?

However, when you are forced to join a union, especially a public employee union (government), and have the government take a portion of your wages to give to the union who gives to The Democrat Party, that's a problem on two core fronts:

1) Employees have no say and/or choice
2) Ultimately, taxpayers are being forced to contribute to Unions and The Democrat Party in the case(s) where employee union membership is mandatory.

Between ACORN-derived organizations and Public Service Unions, Democrats get to tap into all US Taxpayers for money. The American People are getting wise to this and don't like it. SEE Wisconsin June 2012

1. No one in this country is forced to joined a union.
2. Even for people who are members of the union, they have to specifically mark the money for political use. Political contributions out of general funds is illegal.

In closed shop states, like IL, the equivalent. Don't have to join, but do have to pay dues. Now the opposite is possible in WI, in 6 months they've lost nearly 2/3 of members. If the unions were seriously for the 'middle class', this wouldn't be happening, but it is.

 

[HUGGY]

I finally agree with the sadcow dude!

Rachel Maddow Reveals the Hidden Truth About Wisconsin Protests | From Dana's Guests | DanaRoc.com

If there were never any unions blacks would still be slaves, women would not have the right to vote and there would have been no middle class for fuckwits like you to destroy.

 

[Darkwind]

Doesn't matter how good your ideas are if you're being outspent 10-to-1

Walker didn't ask for this recall, he was FORCED to defend himself against this..
the stupid of this he outspent the idiots who brought this recall on the people of Wisconsin is just so friggen laughable...do you really think people are buying that shit, I mean REALLY

No, I've given up a long time ago on getting Republicans to buy math. They're just not interested in the stuff.

Strange kind of math...

D = 21 million
R = 32 million.

Polk and the Democrats....that is 10 to 1 spending!

I'll stick with the real math, thanks.

 

[Polk]

Walker didn't ask for this recall, he was FORCED to defend himself against this..
the stupid of this he outspent the idiots who brought this recall on the people of Wisconsin is just so friggen laughable...do you really think people are buying that shit, I mean REALLY

No, I've given up a long time ago on getting Republicans to buy math. They're just not interested in the stuff.

good, because you quoting Maddow is making you look silly

I tend to not spend my time in front of the idiot box. I was working from memory, so I went back to check the numbers. I was a little off. It was 7-to-1, which is still a huge edge.

Wisconsin recall vote suggests power of spending | HeraldNet.com - Nation/World

 

[Annie]

Walker didn't ask for this recall, he was FORCED to defend himself against this..
the stupid of this he outspent the idiots who brought this recall on the people of Wisconsin is just so friggen laughable...do you really think people are buying that shit, I mean REALLY

No, I've given up a long time ago on getting Republicans to buy math. They're just not interested in the stuff.

Strange kind of math...

D = 21 million
R = 32 million.

Polk and the Democrats....that is 10 to 1 spending!

I'll stick with the real math, thanks.

LOL! Waiting to see if Pol k refutes. So,me how, doubt it.

 

[Polk]

Walker didn't ask for this recall, he was FORCED to defend himself against this..
the stupid of this he outspent the idiots who brought this recall on the people of Wisconsin is just so friggen laughable...do you really think people are buying that shit, I mean REALLY

No, I've given up a long time ago on getting Republicans to buy math. They're just not interested in the stuff.

Strange kind of math...

D = 21 million
R = 32 million.

Polk and the Democrats....that is 10 to 1 spending!

I'll stick with the real math, thanks.

Because those aren't the real numbers. It was 31 to 4.

Wisconsin recall vote suggests power of spending | HeraldNet.com - Nation/World

 

[Polk]

No, I've given up a long time ago on getting Republicans to buy math. They're just not interested in the stuff.

Strange kind of math...

D = 21 million
R = 32 million.

Polk and the Democrats....that is 10 to 1 spending!

I'll stick with the real math, thanks.

LOL! Waiting to see if Pol k refutes. So,me how, doubt it.

Wisconsin recall vote suggests power of spending | HeraldNet.com - Nation/World

31 to 4.

 

[Stephanie]

I finally agree with the sadcow dude!

Rachel Maddow Reveals the Hidden Truth About Wisconsin Protests | From Dana's Guests | DanaRoc.com

If there were never any unions blacks would still be slaves, women would not have the right to vote and there would have been no middle class for fuckwits like you to destroy.

 

[Avorysuds]

Strange kind of math...

D = 21 million
R = 32 million.

Polk and the Democrats....that is 10 to 1 spending!

I'll stick with the real math, thanks.

LOL! Waiting to see if Pol k refutes. So,me how, doubt it.

Wisconsin recall vote suggests power of spending | HeraldNet.com - Nation/World

31 to 4.

So what happened to the 21 million the Unions spent in WI... Did they help Walker as much as the Democrat? Or did the money just disappear?

 

[Stephanie]

Strange kind of math...

D = 21 million
R = 32 million.

Polk and the Democrats....that is 10 to 1 spending!

I'll stick with the real math, thanks.

LOL! Waiting to see if Pol k refutes. So,me how, doubt it.

Wisconsin recall vote suggests power of spending | HeraldNet.com - Nation/World

31 to 4.

yeah RIGHT..
You're really are going to push that, aren't you..
oh well

 

[bitterlyclingin]

No sh!t, Dick Tracey. The Democrat's campaign theme for the last fifty years has been an unceasing stream of "Vote for me and I will steal from he to give to thee!"

As heard during the 2008 campaign:
Woman screaming; "He's going to pay for my groceries!!!"
Man questioning; "Where's he going to get the money?"
Woman screaming; "From his stash!!!!!!!"

New Socialist French President Hollande recently reversed former Conservative President Sarkozy's order raising the retirement age from 60 to 62, saying that move wasn't necessary to solve France's financial problems, there was plenty of money around, all France had to do was take it from the Rich, at the point of a gun if necessary. Mssr Hollande also promised France's 500,000 strong Turkish minority that he would make France Turkey's first European colony if they would only vote for him, too. What white caucasian Catholic France?

 

[Buford]

No, I've given up a long time ago on getting Republicans to buy math. They're just not interested in the stuff.

good, because you quoting Maddow is making you look silly

I tend to not spend my time in front of the idiot box. I was working from memory, so I went back to check the numbers. I was a little off. It was 7-to-1, which is still a huge edge.

Wisconsin recall vote suggests power of spending | HeraldNet.com - Nation/World

You're lying to yourself if you think money is the reason Walker won.

 

[Avatar4321]

If there were never any unions blacks would still be slaves, women would not have the right to vote and there would have been no middle class for fuckwits like you to destroy.

You do realize one of the reasons unions were started was to prevent blacks from getting jobs, don't you?

 

[SniperFire]

You cannot be forced to join a union. You can be required to pay agency fees, but that is a requirement your employer imposes on you,

not the union.

incorrect, dumb ass...

Can I be required to be a union member or pay dues to a union? | National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation

Under the NLRA, you cannot be required to be a member of a union or pay it any monies as a condition of employment unless the collective bargaining agreement between your employer and your union contains a provision requiring all employees to either join the union or pay union fees.

Even if there is such a provision in the agreement, the most that can be required of you is to pay the union fees (generally called an "agency fee.")

it's imposed by BOTH the employer and the union in the CBA.

That is just what I said, stated differently, you idiot. It's your employer who imposes the fee because your employer has decided to do collective bargaining with a union.

ummmm...

Employers don't 'decide to do collective bargaining with a union.'

They are forced to do it thanks to bad labor laws.

But this is changing, rapidly. Public Unions are being denutted.