MacArthur...does the legend hold up?

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    MacArthur should have been court-martialed twice. In fairness FDR may have pulled one of his famous political tricks when he called MacArthur out of retirement to become the commanding general of the area most likely to be attacked by the Japanese. Mac paid his dues as a hard charging officer in WW1 and rising in the ranks to become Chief of Staff and retiring honorably prior to WW2. Maybe he misunderstood the responsibility he had as commander of Philippine forces or maybe he was conned into thinking he was some sort of political envoy. He lived in a penthouse with his family in Manila and hobnobbed with the political elite. The legend gets muddy on Dec 8, 1941 the day after Pearl Harbor was attacked. Indications are that MacArthur was frozen with indicision and allowed his entire air force to be destroyed on the ground while parked wing to wing. Mac blamed subordinates for the disaster. The general who became known as "dugout Doug" by combat Troops was awarded the Medal of Honor in perhaps the shortest citation in the book. Some blather about "raising and training the Philippine army" was inserted into the citation to pad it and the crux of the "valor" part was the General allegedly shaking his fist at attacking Zeroes on Corrigador. Just before Mac was evacuated he instructed his subordinate General John "skinny" Wainwright to "fight to the death. Big words for a general who (was ordered to) abandon his troops to certain death. I'll save Korea for later.
     
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    General MacArthur was over 70 years old when Korea broke out and yet Harry Truman took him away from his duties as emperor of Japan to once more fail as a front line commander.
     
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    Mac didn't spend a single night with the Troops he commanded in Korea. He issued orders and relied on selective intel from questionable sources.
     
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    Korea, makes me sad, The Frozen Chosin, may they rest in peace.
     
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    Korea was a victory thanks to MacArthur's brilliant "Inchon Landing" that outflanked the NK. UN forces retook Seul and even the NK capital of Pongyang. Any Military commander would have drawn a line from Wonson Harbor to Pongyang and called it a day. This is where the legend clicks in. Mac was in his 70's and his egomania might have become an acute mental condition. The Chinese warned the UN not to approach the Yalu river or they would enter the conflict. Truman let Mac walk into the biggest ambush in history at the Chosin. Thank God for leaders like Chesty Puller and OP Smith or it would have been a utter defeat instead of a stalemate and a humiliating truce.
     
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    MacArther was the most overrated General in WWII

    Nimitz won the war in the Pacific while MacArther tied up valuable Pacific resources trying to fulfil his "I shall return" promise. He was a legend in his own mind more concerned with publicity and his legend than winning the war
     
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    mark this day down.....


    I agree. :eusa_angel:
     

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