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  1. Caligirl
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    Is it OK for politicians to lie?

    Is it OK for your kids to lie?

    If there is a difference in these answers, please explain.
     
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    Is it okay for anyone to lie or do we simply accept it because it is an inevible fact of human nature?

    Your questions are rhetorical and therefore cannot be answered. The real question is "is it okay to lie?" The Bible says no, yet preachers lie. My ethics classes in law school said no, yet I practice with attorneys who have turned it into an art form. Everyone lies at one time or another. It is an involuntary action of human nature.

    Now, what is a lie? Is an ommisson of truth or an opposite position of the truth? Is it an exaggeration? Is it a lie when it is used for good? Such as a military commander protecting a classified operation or a nurse telling a terminal patient that everything is going to be okay.

    I'm not trying to belittle your question. Your question is simply too simple.
     
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    Depends? Since the left have no problem with Obama and any leftoid lying but have a problem with anyone not of the left saying anything that can be stretched into being claimed a lie I suggest you ask them.
     
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    no, it's not ok, it is not ethical, and ends up hurting someone, somewhere down the line... even if it seemed appropriate at the time, or the lesser of two evils at the time....
     
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    We want politicians to lie to us. If they don't, we don't vote for them. So it's not the politicians, it's the people.
     
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    Lying causes damage.

    But not all truths need to be known.

    I work at a big bank. I am not telling you which one.

    My bank has lots of famous customers. In the department I used to work I would see them doing transactions on a regular basis. I am not giving you any of their names.

    You are not allowed to tell anything about any body what you know about anyone that they don't need to know.

    Now, if you see a co worker going through someone else's purse or locker, that needs to get reported right away.

    And it is often the case that what we see is only 1/4 of the story.

    so gossip is almost always wrong.
     
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    You are a lawyer? Please dont tell me you are?

    God! I wouldnt want you to defend me!

    There is nothing rhetorical about either question...... is it ok to lie ...is however much more rhetorical...your attempt at sounding intelligent was unsuccessful.

    Answer to both questions is yes.


    Also who gives a F what the Bible says?? Why do americans always bring this book into things? Why not Harry Potter or Ulysses? Why the Bible?
     
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    When a child names his toes, it's charming.

    When Grampa does it, it's a tragedy!
     
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    does harry potter or ulysses have a code of ethics in it? lol

    you're a little too wound up on that outburst MC, in my opinion....

    and, the answer to both questions of cali is NO imo! :D
     
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    It's not OK for anyone to lie. But, it happens and usually comes back to bite you in the ass.
     

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