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im all for lowering the drinking age to 18. and legalize pot while we are at it. A giant aspect to why these things are abused is BECAUSE they are banned. If any of you started drinking MORE after turning 21 and discovering it's no big deal to go buy a 6 pack then you need to re-evaluate your social reality.
its a big deal to get one in PA. you can only get a 6 pack at a bar, but then you pay bar prices. no beer in gas stations or supermarkets. you have to go to a beer distributer, and get a 24 pack or a keg. it sucks.
Hooray!!! For PA!!! 
Wow, that's nuts. Here you can buy it everywhere. There must be a pretty strong lobby in PA.its a big deal to get one in PA. you can only get a 6 pack at a bar, but then you pay bar prices. no beer in gas stations or supermarkets. you have to go to a beer distributer, and get a 24 pack or a keg. it sucks.
sorry, off topic
Wow, that's nuts. Here you can buy it everywhere. There must be a pretty strong lobby in PA.
its a big deal to get one in PA. you can only get a 6 pack at a bar, but then you pay bar prices. no beer in gas stations or supermarkets. you have to go to a beer distributer, and get a 24 pack or a keg. it sucks.
sorry, off topic
I wonder, are drunk drivers less of a problem in PA then elsewhere? I kind of doubt it, since to get a decent price you have to buy a keg or a 24 pack.the law was enacted after prohibition was repealed to have control over alcohol distribution, and apparently the commonwealth makes a lot of money off of it. companies like sheets and wawa are trying to change the law, however.
I wonder, are drunk drivers less of a problem in PA then elsewhere? I kind of doubt it, since to get a decent price you have to buy a keg or a 24 pack.
Yes, Granny. I tell them that, while I tell them all about skinning animals alive and how best to cook meth.
Untwist your bloomers, for pete's sakes.
its a big deal to get one in PA. you can only get a 6 pack at a bar, but then you pay bar prices. no beer in gas stations or supermarkets. you have to go to a beer distributer, and get a 24 pack or a keg. it sucks.
sorry, off topic
Huh, since FL is a state where you can buy it anywhere, I guess it's not a useful comparison.looks like PA has the 5th highest DUI rates in the nation. i dont know if thats number per capita or total. hard to find DUI facts.
Pennsylvania State Organization of Mothers Against Drunk Driving Announces New Public Awareness Campaign; Pennsylvania has 5th Highest DUI Rate in Nation; MADD-PA to Combat Statewide Complacency Toward Issue | Business Wire | Find Articles at BNET
this has PA 4th in total fatalities from DUI, behind CA, TX, FL
Drunk driving statistics 2005
pssst...I've got a bunch of kids that want to sign up for our weekly meth cooking class. I'll email you the list.Yes, Granny. I tell them that, while I tell them all about skinning animals alive and how best to cook meth.
Untwist your bloomers, for pete's sakes.
Yes, Granny. I tell them that, while I tell them all about skinning animals alive and how best to cook meth.
Untwist your bloomers, for pete's sakes.
After the remark about "driving drunk" .... none of the above would surprise me! Or anything else that you have to say.
Amazing how the "true color's" of a person finds a way of sneaking out when responding in a PUBLIC forum!
Oh, and some cities in this state have drive-through daiquiri places
why has the american cultural raised the age of manhood to 21? Are we that sorry of parents that we cannot produce a responsible young man at 18?
Since we have apparently decided to draw a line somewhere lets go with 13. Anyone who is in their teens is an adult and can do anything.
want people to vote at thirteen too?
get married?
get drafted?
and my personal fav...work at a titty bar...
18 is not an arbitrary number.
21 on the other hand...
I say, yes and no, with conditions.
1. Yes! I agree with the point made that if you are old enough to serve in the military - you are old enough to drink. (When our son graduated boot camp at MCRD San Diego - they had a party where they served beer, can't remember the name of the place "on base" where it was held. Our son was 18 - he & his new-found buddies, could finally relax and drinking that was okay with me).
2. No! Kids under the age of 21 that have no clue where they are headed, and use the city streets or freeways, on a weekend night as a drag strip or race track, should NOT be allowed to drink. Peroid!
*My two cents worth, as a Mom, Grandma, and as the sister-in-law of someone that was killed in an auto accident of a car driven by drunk "under age (19)" driver.
