Love this quote by a protestor

Erin Larkins, a Columbia University graduate student at who says she and her boyfriend have significant student loan debt, was among the thousands of protesters on the bridge. She said a friend persuaded her to join the march and she’s glad she did.

“I don’t think we’re asking for much, just to wake up every morning not worrying whether we can pay the rent, or whether our next meal will be rice and beans again,’’ Larkins wrote in an email to The Associated Press.


Poor baby. Eating rice and beans to pay off a debt which you knowingly accumulated.

The starving kids in Africa and the homeless here in the states feel for your plight.

I think you have to go deeper than that.
The education debt is not really by choice now is it? The alternate is no education at all.
How about we address the fact that tuition is becoming absurd. Since the government began bankrolling college education for the masses - same as with the mortgage industry, it has created a false demand and therefore a bubble is becoming well established.
Schools are building new housing apartments like there is no tomorrow...building new wings on to existing buildings etc. etc. - all to accommodate a massive population of kids who have absolutely no business going to college.
Perhaps these two young adults were not among the kids who shouldn't be there - perhaps they belonged in college - but they have no choice in paying $20,000 a year - do they?

They didn't have to go to Columbia.
 
So you are then saying to the American youth DONT GO TO COLLEGE???????>


You completely ignore the fact that tutition is WAY more than when you went to college........WHY???????

I'm saying don't go into debt and then complain about paying it back.

I know the concept of not complaining about choices you have made is foreign to you.
I didn't notice where she was complaining about paying it back.
 
So you are then saying to the American youth DONT GO TO COLLEGE???????>


You completely ignore the fact that tutition is WAY more than when you went to college........WHY???????

I'm saying don't go into debt and then complain about paying it back.

I know the concept of not complaining about choices you have made is foreign to you.
I didn't notice where she was complaining about paying it back.

then I guess you didn't read what she wrote.
 
They should take out more loans and go to grad school. Afterall, isn't throwing good money after bad the precedent we've set with the Bush/Obama bailouts?
 
When these young people sarted college there were pleanty of jobs huh?


They heard (like all American children heard) from their society thwat the thing to do was to work hard in school so you can get good grades and go to college.

They know they would have to pay the loans back BUT they didnt know wall street and the banks would turn our lives into a GREED fest that would crash the world economy now did they?


The banks and wallstreet CHEATED their asses off with the help of a republican government who looked the other way while they did it.

They ended up with LOTS AND LOTS of money and the American people ended up with the bill and what do you do?

defend the very people who fucked us for money.

Your and your cohorts will end up on the trash heap of history
 
Okay, so two kids go to Columbia University and then whine that "Wall Street" is to blame because they have to pay it back? Oh My GAWD!!! Can we get any more entitlement crazy in this nation?

How about Missouri University? Or some other college that doesn't take $20,000 a year to attend? You know if you want to go to a place that literally takes an arm and a leg to attend, you have to be willing to sacrifice to get there.

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY people. It's two words that strike fear and dread into the hearts of liberals. "YOU OWE ME", seems to be the mantra of the left. No, no we don't. You're NOT going to steal money from me at the point of a gun because you THINK you deserve it.
 
Erin Larkins, a Columbia University graduate student at who says she and her boyfriend have significant student loan debt, was among the thousands of protesters on the bridge. She said a friend persuaded her to join the march and she’s glad she did.

“I don’t think we’re asking for much, just to wake up every morning not worrying whether we can pay the rent, or whether our next meal will be rice and beans again,’’ Larkins wrote in an email to The Associated Press.


Poor baby. Eating rice and beans to pay off a debt which you knowingly accumulated.

The starving kids in Africa and the homeless here in the states feel for your plight.

I think you have to go deeper than that.
The education debt is not really by choice now is it? The alternate is no education at all.

You are assuming that earning a degree is in fact an education. You can get the same education for free in a library as you can at any college.
 
I'm saying don't go into debt and then complain about paying it back.

I know the concept of not complaining about choices you have made is foreign to you.
I didn't notice where she was complaining about paying it back.

then I guess you didn't read what she wrote.
She was complaining that she was worried about paying the rent and eating rice and beans. Feel free to show me where she objected to paying back her loan.
 
Side story: We had an opening for an analyst position last year and originally we were looking for someone with 5-7 years of experience and the starting salary range was $65-75k/yr. The applicants totally friggin blew chunks. I lobbied hard to instead hire an entry level college graduate and pay them $40k, so long as I was allowed to administer my own aptitude test. Long story short, I ended up hiring (gasp!) a minority woman from a state school and here we are 15 months later and she's a rising star in the company.

You're welcome. :thup:
 
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Side story: We had an opening for an analyst position last year and originally we were looking for someone with 5-7 years of experience and the starting salary range was $65-75k/yr. The applicants totally friggin blew chunks. I lobbied hard to instead hire an entry level college graduate and pay them $40k, so long as I was allowed to administer my own aptitude test. Long story short, I ended up hiring (gasp!) a minority woman from a state school and here we are 15 months later and she's a rising star in the company.

You're welcome. :thup:

Depends on the business, but my dad will take an enthusiastic, literate, kid with a criminal record over a graduate on occasion. He's done that several times - in fact, he proactively looks to take on those kids now.... because he finds that most of them are pretty damned hard working. As part of their benefits, they get the opportunity to further their formal education. Seems to work well.
 
Have they ever heard of working their way through college instead of taking out loans?
That's what I did.

I did too, but, text books didn't cost $200 and most of the time used books were acceptable. Today's books recieve cosmetic changes so new ones are required (generally). Tuition costs are ridiculous, way beyond the average American family.

And yet, as the costs rise the level of even basic knowledge and skills continues to fall.
 
Side story: We had an opening for an analyst position last year and originally we were looking for someone with 5-7 years of experience and the starting salary range was $65-75k/yr. The applicants totally friggin blew chunks. I lobbied hard to instead hire an entry level college graduate and pay them $40k, so long as I was allowed to administer my own aptitude test. Long story short, I ended up hiring (gasp!) a minority woman from a state school and here we are 15 months later and she's a rising star in the company.

You're welcome. :thup:

Depends on the business, but my dad will take an enthusiastic, literate, kid with a criminal record over a graduate on occasion. He's done that several times - in fact, he proactively looks to take on those kids now.... because he finds that most of them are pretty damned hard working. As part of their benefits, they get the opportunity to further their formal education. Seems to work well.

I've always valued aptitude over experience since aptitude can't simply be acquired via the passage of time.
 
Poor baby. Eating rice and beans to pay off a debt which you knowingly accumulated.

The starving kids in Africa and the homeless here in the states feel for your plight.

I think you have to go deeper than that.
The education debt is not really by choice now is it? The alternate is no education at all.

You are assuming that earning a degree is in fact an education. You can get the same education for free in a library as you can at any college.



No you can't. Don't be stupid.
 
Side story: We had an opening for an analyst position last year and originally we were looking for someone with 5-7 years of experience and the starting salary range was $65-75k/yr. The applicants totally friggin blew chunks. I lobbied hard to instead hire an entry level college graduate and pay them $40k, so long as I was allowed to administer my own aptitude test. Long story short, I ended up hiring (gasp!) a minority woman from a state school and here we are 15 months later and she's a rising star in the company.

You're welcome. :thup:

Depends on the business, but my dad will take an enthusiastic, literate, kid with a criminal record over a graduate on occasion. He's done that several times - in fact, he proactively looks to take on those kids now.... because he finds that most of them are pretty damned hard working. As part of their benefits, they get the opportunity to further their formal education. Seems to work well.

I've always valued aptitude over experience since aptitude can't simply be acquired via the passage of time.


True enough, but potential is not always fulfilled. How about a lot of both?
 
Cars are a lot more expensive now than 50 years ago. Depending on where you live it can be very difficult to get a job and go do that job if you don't have a car. This does not mean that cars should be free or that if I can't make my car payments I should drop everything and march around in a pot-induced haze carrying poorly spelled signs that I don't understand.
 
Basically, it is okay to be worried about your future because of the economy if you're a teapee.

It is not okay to be worried about your future if you're a student.

:)
 
Erin Larkins, a Columbia University graduate student at who says she and her boyfriend have significant student loan debt, was among the thousands of protesters on the bridge. She said a friend persuaded her to join the march and she’s glad she did.

“I don’t think we’re asking for much, just to wake up every morning not worrying whether we can pay the rent, or whether our next meal will be rice and beans again,’’ Larkins wrote in an email to The Associated Press.


Poor baby. Eating rice and beans to pay off a debt which you knowingly accumulated.

The starving kids in Africa and the homeless here in the states feel for your plight.

I think you have to go deeper than that.
The education debt is not really by choice now is it? The alternate is no education at all.
How about we address the fact that tuition is becoming absurd. Since the government began bankrolling college education for the masses - same as with the mortgage industry, it has created a false demand and therefore a bubble is becoming well established.
Schools are building new housing apartments like there is no tomorrow...building new wings on to existing buildings etc. etc. - all to accommodate a massive population of kids who have absolutely no business going to college.
Perhaps these two young adults were not among the kids who shouldn't be there - perhaps they belonged in college - but they have no choice in paying $20,000 a year - do they?
Yeah they are, they chose to go to college and get the loans. Like all debt, choice. This movement is a socialist experiment. Wake up America.
 
Depends on the business, but my dad will take an enthusiastic, literate, kid with a criminal record over a graduate on occasion. He's done that several times - in fact, he proactively looks to take on those kids now.... because he finds that most of them are pretty damned hard working. As part of their benefits, they get the opportunity to further their formal education. Seems to work well.

I've always valued aptitude over experience since aptitude can't simply be acquired via the passage of time.


True enough, but potential is not always fulfilled. How about a lot of both?

Both is great. But aptitude is required.

Interestingly enough, word got out about the test I was administering and now I have hiring managers in other departments asking me to test their applicants. When I have time I do because I enjoy it.
 

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