Log in or Sign up

Look Who's Cozying Up to The Iranians

Discussion in 'Middle East - General' started by Annie, Apr 13, 2005.

Page 1 of 2

Apr 13, 2005 #1

Offline
Annie Diamond Member

Joined:

Nov 22, 2003

Messages:

50,848

Thanks Received:

4,645

Trophy Points:

1,790

Ratings:

+4,785

Surprise:
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L13679471.htm

Chirac pushes EU to drop hard line on Iran-diplomats
13 Apr 2005 12:36:47 GMT

Source: Reuters

By Louis Charbonneau

VIENNA, April 13 (Reuters) - French President Jacques Chirac has been pushing the EU to drop its refusal to consider letting Iran enrich uranium, despite U.S. and European fears Iran could use enrichment technology for weapons, EU diplomats say.

Sharing U.S. suspicions that Iran may have atom bomb ambitions, the European Union's three biggest powers -- France, Britain and Germany -- have demanded Iran give up its nuclear fuel programme in exchange for economic and political benefits.

Iran says it has no interest in the bomb and wants nuclear power plants to meet booming demand for electricity. Tehran has frozen its enrichment programme, but refuses to permanently give up what it sees as a sovereign right to produce low-enriched uranium fuel for its nuclear power programme.

The Iran-EU talks had been deadlocked over the issue of "objective guarantees" that Iran's atomic programme will not be used to make weapons, with the Europeans insisting that the only acceptable guarantee was a permanent cessation of enrichment.

But the talks took a new turn last month when negotiators from the EU's "big three" (EU3) and the office of EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana agreed in Paris to consider an Iranian proposal that it keep a small-scale enrichment programme that would be closely monitored by the U.N. nuclear watchdog.

Several diplomats said this shift -- which came just after Washington bolstered the EU position by offering its own incentives if Tehran scrapped enrichment -- was mainly the result of pressure by Chirac, who pushed the French Foreign Ministry to drop its refusal to consider Iran's plan.

"Jacques Chirac ... is the one who's taking the Iranian proposal under consideration," said an EU3 diplomat, adding the French president had the final say on foreign policy matters.

NUCLEAR PROGRAMME

French Foreign Ministry spokesman Jean-Baptiste Mattei denied there was any split between Chirac and the Foreign Ministry on the Iranian nuclear programme. "On the Iran dossier, there's one, and only one French position," Mattei said.

Other EU3 diplomats confirmed Chirac had urged his negotiators to consider Iran's proposal it be allowed to have an enrichment plant with 3,000 centrifuges -- which could produce enough highly enriched uranium for one bomb per year.

"Chirac seems to have taken things a bit further forward than everyone else, but his comments do not really represent the official French position on objective guarantees," one said.

"I think it says more about the internal machinations in Paris than anything else," the EU3 diplomat added.

One diplomat close to the EU-Iran talks said the decision to consider Iran's proposal was partly "diplomatic politeness".

But diplomats said it was also a way of avoiding positions that could undermine moderate presidential candidates favouring increased engagement with the West in Iran's June 17 election.

"We don't want to do anything before June," a diplomat said.

When the EU-Iran talks began in January, the EU3 unanimously opposed the idea of Iran keeping its enrichment programme, which Tehran had concealed from the United Nations for nearly two decades.

EU diplomats close to the talks said this was still the Europeans' official position, though they said Chirac was among those who thought Iran's proposal might be acceptable.

Asked if France's view on Iranian enrichment had changed, Mattei said: "Our wish is to obtain objective guarantees from Iran for the peaceful use of its nuclear programme."

Iran has recently made a point of publicly praising the French position. Ahead of last month's Paris talks, a senior Iranian security official lauded Chirac for his "positive view". (Additional reporting by Kerstin Gehmlich and Jon Boyle in Paris, Paul Taylor in Brussels, Madeline Chambers in London and Paul Hughes in Tehran)
Click to expand...
Apr 13, 2005 #2

Offline
Yurt Gold Member

Joined:

Jun 15, 2004

Messages:

25,594

Thanks Received:

3,559

Trophy Points:

270

Location:

Hot air ballon

Ratings:

+5,067

:arabia: he is a kiss up.
Apr 13, 2005 #3

Offline
BR-549 Member

Joined:

Nov 5, 2004

Messages:

98

Thanks Received:

17

Trophy Points:

6

Ratings:

+17

is a trouble causing dipshit... Jeeez the French people have got to be the most gutless in all of Europe.
Apr 13, 2005 #4

Offline
Gunny Gold Member

Joined:

Dec 27, 2004

Messages:

44,689

Thanks Received:

6,754

Trophy Points:

198

Location:

The Republic of Texas

Ratings:

+6,777

Wonder how many times Chirac thinks he can tug on Superman's cape before he gets his ass kicked .............
Apr 13, 2005 #5

Offline
Annie Diamond Member

Joined:

Nov 22, 2003

Messages:

50,848

Thanks Received:

4,645

Trophy Points:

1,790

Ratings:

+4,785

Superstar said:

Wonder how many times Chirac thinks he can tug on Superman's cape before he gets his ass kicked .............
Click to expand...

Past time for some repercussions. :chains:
Apr 13, 2005 #6

Offline
Gunny Gold Member

Joined:

Dec 27, 2004

Messages:

44,689

Thanks Received:

6,754

Trophy Points:

198

Location:

The Republic of Texas

Ratings:

+6,777

Ooooh ......I wanna play too! :firing:
Apr 15, 2005 #7

Offline
Falk Rookie

Joined:

Apr 8, 2005

Messages:

15

Thanks Received:

1

Trophy Points:

1

Ratings:

+1

Kathianne said:

...a small-scale enrichment programme that would be closely monitored by the U.N. nuclear watchdog
Click to expand...

Now, what's the harm in that? Some countries actually got both nuclear, biological and chemical weapons in their possesion...
/Falk
Apr 15, 2005 #8

Offline
Annie Diamond Member

Joined:

Nov 22, 2003

Messages:

50,848

Thanks Received:

4,645

Trophy Points:

1,790

Ratings:

+4,785

Falk said:

Now, what's the harm in that? Some countries actually got both nuclear, biological and chemical weapons in their possesion...
/Falk
Click to expand...

Sorry child, I have not seen that you are ready for enlightenment.
Apr 15, 2005 #9

Offline
Falk Rookie

Joined:

Apr 8, 2005

Messages:

15

Thanks Received:

1

Trophy Points:

1

Ratings:

+1

Kathianne said:

Sorry child, I have not seen that you are ready for enlightenment.
Click to expand...

But seriosly, what kind of threat does Iran pose? I am more concerned about countries that have developed real nuclear weapons, like China, India, Pakistan, Israel and Russia. Irans effort to enrich is okay, given a certain insight to the research. Let France make a soft approach, if it works, - fine!
I don't think we would like other countries to control what areas we were to research.

The most likeley country to actually resort to the use of nuclear weapons are countries under preassure like Pakistan/India or Isreal/The rest of the Arab world. China and Russia seems more likley to "loose" some weapons wich ends up with some terrorist somewhere. As for US or Europe neither case seems very likeley.
Apr 15, 2005 #10

Offline
Annie Diamond Member

Joined:

Nov 22, 2003

Messages:

50,848

Thanks Received:

4,645

Trophy Points:

1,790

Ratings:

+4,785

Falk said:

But seriosly, what kind of threat does Iran pose? I am more concerned about countries that have developed real nuclear weapons, like China, India, Pakistan, Israel and Russia. Irans effort to enrich is okay, given a certain insight to the research. Let France make a soft approach, if it works, - fine!
I don't think we would like other countries to control what areas we were to research.

The most likeley country to actually resort to the use of nuclear weapons are countries under preassure like Pakistan/India or Isreal/The rest of the Arab world. China and Russia seems more likley to "loose" some weapons wich ends up with some terrorist somewhere. As for US or Europe neither case seems very likeley.
Click to expand...

Iran is part of the 'Arab world'.

(You must log in or sign up to reply here.)

Page 1 of 2

Share This Page

Active Topics

Barry-Care Was Always A Ploy To...
Tom Horn posted Jul 28, 2017 at 2:00 PM
At This Time, Motive Unknown....
PoliticalChic posted Jul 28, 2017 at 1:50 PM
Violent liberals trying to...
MindWars posted Jul 28, 2017 at 1:49 PM
McCain Didn't Kill Healthcare...
Tom Horn posted Jul 28, 2017 at 1:45 PM
Does Israel did correctly by...
CHARLIE ROOTS posted Jul 28, 2017 at 1:41 PM
President Donald Trump is on...
RadicalRedneck posted Jul 28, 2017 at 1:40 PM
Memo from We the people to...
MindWars posted Jul 28, 2017 at 1:36 PM
Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer: Awan...
MindWars posted Jul 28, 2017 at 1:29 PM

Loading...

Search