Look to Lebanon Why the One State Solution can NOT Work in Israel!

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    In 1932 Christians made up 55% of the population. Through Civil "Sectarian" War and Christian persecution, many Christian flead Lebanon. Now the Christian majority sits at estimated 25%! Lebanon has increasingly become radicalized under cowardly groups like Hezbollah, to which the Christians are becoming subjected to Muslim Law! During the Lebanese Civil War that mainly pit Christians against Muslims resulted in 900K people fleeing the country, The vast VAST majority of them were Christians. In '94, the Lebanese government allowed the naturalization of 300K Muslims (mostly Syrians). Christians complain of harassment by radicals Lebanese Muslims. If predicted that by 2020 Christians will make up less than 10% of the population. At that point you can expect a similar thing to happen to the Lebanese Christians as happens to the Iraqi Christians, you can ________!

    USCFL - The Forgotten Christians of Lebanon

    Now that comes to I/P conflict! Creating a one state solution btw Palestinians and Jews would result in an even bloodier civil war. It is not even arguable that the Israelis and Palestinians hate each more than the Lebanese Christians and Muslims. The war that would follow would not be pretty, thing Yugoslavia!

    Therefore a 2 state solution is the ONLY choice!
     
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    By the time of the Lebanese Civil War, Muslims were already a majority in Lebanon as a result of natural demographic shifts. The opening phase of the war was a direct result of anti-Muslim discrimination by a privileged Christian minority. As a result of the war, Syria came to dominate Lebanon's government, thus weakening its ability to resist the Israeli occupation. Hizballah therefore gained influence because it was the only party strong enough to protect Lebanese from the Israelis.

    You mention Yugoslavia. At the same time that the Ustashi regime was murdering Serbs in Croatia, Yugoslavians of all ethnicities and religions were being united behind Marshal Tito (a Croat) and his dream of a one-state solution. Croats, Serbs, Slovenes, Bosnians, and others lived in peace for 40 years until the Stalinist regime rotted from within, giving way to nationalist ideologies calling for independent national states. This is as clear a demonstration as one could want that ethnic conflict isn't about one group of people hating another, it's about the divide-and-rule tactics used to grab hold of private property and bureaucratic privilege. What the people of Palestine and Lebanon need is a communist movement to unite oppressed people of all races and religions in the fight against oppression.
     
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    oh noez! if we let dems negras off da fahm dey willz comz and killz uz godly white folk!

    *yawn*
     
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    one need not use fear to sell a one two state solution. I don't know what rock you reside under but most everyone involved in talks between the two sides is looking at a two state solution.

    so where are you going with this?

    :cuckoo:
     
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    Do you have any proof to your claims? I don't buy it!

    :rofl: You have to be kidding! Too big of government, meaning communism, leads to more oppression of the people! LOL, you must either be a highschooler or a elitist college student on mommy and Daddy's dollar! :lol:
     
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    PLEASE! You hear many so-called academics call for the 1 state solution. You hear ignorant fucks like Shogun call for the 1 state solution. You heard the far left say that binational state is the only way! Liberals spew this garbage. Also many religion wingnut Christians state the same!
     
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    National Pact - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <--- On discrimination against the Muslim majority by Christian minorities in Lebanon
    Hezbollah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <---- On Hezbollah and the roots of its popularity
    As for the "claim" that Yugoslavians lived in peace under the Communist Party, I can only point to this general history of Yugoslavia which doesn't mention any fratricidal wars during the period:
    Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    On to your personal attacks on me: they don't have anything to do with the issue at hand. I can only point out that communists are not for "more government" ... they are for a workers' and farmers' government. And I think it's arrogant to tell me my political opinions are laughable when you obviously have a very poor grasp of BASIC FACTUAL MATTERS.
     
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    you need to get out more.

    even your strawmen smell musty

    :lol:
     

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