Look how divisive this board is...

[Jackson]

It is the same as Congress. There has to be an attitude change in Washington and across the country. Nothing will ever get done. We have appalling ratings in Congress and that is because the Republicans blame the democrats and the Democrats blame the Republicans.

We need leadership in this country that not only promises change but acts on it. The present administration has done the oppositie. He stood idly by while calling the Republicans "terrorists," and not urging the Super Committee that failure was not an option. He became enbroiled in states issues and even sued the states when they tried to enforce federal laws when the government again refused to do their job.

The Attorney General was another example of partisanship on the part of the White HOuse and not taking responsibility for promises not kept by this administration by following the law. Transparency was a joke.

We need change. Big change. At this point, any of the candidates running can be an improvement of what we have now. But it takes more than changing the leadership in the White House. We have to take the responsibility to urge our own representitives to debate openly and consider the country before their own party to make the difference.

 

[ba1614]

It all starts at the top. Any organization is only as good as it's leadership, and Americas leader ran out of talent after the election.

 

[WatertheTree]

It is the same as Congress. There has to be an attitude change in Washington and across the country. Nothing will ever get done. We have appalling ratings in Congress and that is because the Republicans blame the democrats and the Democrats blame the Republicans.

We need leadership in this country that not only promises change but acts on it. The present administration has done the oppositie. He stood idly by while calling the Republicans "terrorists," and not urging the Super Committee that failure was not an option. He became enbroiled in states issues and even sued the states when they tried to enforce federal laws when the government again refused to do their job.

The Attorney General was another example of partisanship on the part of the White HOuse and not taking responsibility for promises not kept by this administration by following the law. Transparency was a joke.

We need change. Big change. At this point, any of the candidates running can be an improvement of what we have now. But it takes more than changing the leadership in the White House. We have to take the responsibility to urge our own representitives to debate openly and consider the country before their own party to make the difference.

The problem is the federal government simply has way to much to do. They are in control of to much, they have gotten to big, and they simply cannot be managed.

This is one of the reasons the constitution created a framework with a weak federal government and strong state governments. A simple return to the constitution ending the socialism experiment would reduce the federal government to protecting the liberties of the people from the states and providing defense of the nation.

Every problem we have today is caused by the dismissal of the constitution and the rule of law. Every single one.

Ron Paul 2012

 

[WatertheTree]

It all starts at the top. Any organization is only as good as it's leadership, and Americas leader ran out of talent after the election.

How many more times do you want to replace the peak while the foundation is filled with rot and decay?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I refer to my avatar...

 

[ba1614]

It all starts at the top. Any organization is only as good as it's leadership, and Americas leader ran out of talent after the election.

How many more times do you want to replace the peak while the foundation is filled with rot and decay?

The obama ran on his ability to get it done, and like I said, he ran out of talent when it came time to do something about it.

I agree that the whole lot of 'em are crooked, but leaders are supposed to lead and he hasn't led. He is the most divisive of the bunch and that isn't leadership.

 

[Article 15]

The birth of the 24 hour news cycle outrage-a-thon and Internet anonymity is the reason for it.

 

[Douger]

Every problem we have today is caused by the dismissal of the constitution and the rule of law. Every single one.

Ron Paul 2012

This is the cause. murkins. Your voting base. No child left behind.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAQoMF9fhHk]PEOPLE OF WALMART 3!! FUNNY!! - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1zGjbFU1uE]Crazy Black Friday fight in Atlanta TX WalMart over TOWELS 2011!! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Sunshine]

Every problem we have today is caused by the dismissal of the constitution and the rule of law. Every single one.

Ron Paul 2012

This is the cause. murkins. Your voting base. No child left behind.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAQoMF9fhHk]PEOPLE OF WALMART 3!! FUNNY!! - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1zGjbFU1uE]Crazy Black Friday fight in Atlanta TX WalMart over TOWELS 2011!! - YouTube[/ame]

Which one is you?

 

[Douger]

I live in America, not murka. I'm a mid-mid-Westerner

 

[Sunshine]

I live in America, not murka. I'm a mid-mid-Westerner

What? They don't have Wal Marts there? I know one of them just has to be YOU! Now you can come clean with us. You one with the beard AND the boobs?

 

[Jackson]

The birth of the 24 hour news cycle outrage-a-thon and Internet anonymity is the reason for it.

That is an interesting thought.

 

[Mad Scientist]

There has to be an attitude change in Washington and across the country. Nothing will ever get done.

Look what happens when they "get things done": NDAA.

BiPartisanship = Both Parties teaming up to fuck us as hard as they can.

 

[Poli_Sigh]

It all starts at the top. Any organization is only as good as it's leadership, and Americas leader ran out of talent after the election.

Oh please this country ran out of political talent long ago. Perhaps you just got here.

 

[healthmyths]

It is the same as Congress. There has to be an attitude change in Washington and across the country. Nothing will ever get done. We have appalling ratings in Congress and that is because the Republicans blame the democrats and the Democrats blame the Republicans.

We need leadership in this country that not only promises change but acts on it. The present administration has done the oppositie. He stood idly by while calling the Republicans "terrorists," and not urging the Super Committee that failure was not an option. He became enbroiled in states issues and even sued the states when they tried to enforce federal laws when the government again refused to do their job.

The Attorney General was another example of partisanship on the part of the White HOuse and not taking responsibility for promises not kept by this administration by following the law. Transparency was a joke.

We need change. Big change. At this point, any of the candidates running can be an improvement of what we have now. But it takes more than changing the leadership in the White House. We have to take the responsibility to urge our own representitives to debate openly and consider the country before their own party to make the difference.

YOU did not MENTION the major contributor to this divisiveness.. THE MSM!
How can the general public get information that is used to form opinions that translate into votes for representatives WHEN the MSM is so biased?

In 2008 FACTS about the biased MSM!!!
First an opinion BY a MSM Editor!

"There is a liberal bias. It's demonstrable. You look at some statistics.
About 85 percent of the reporters who cover the White House vote Democratic, they have for a long time. There is a, particularly at the networks, at the lower levels, among the editors and the so-called infrastructure, there is a liberal bias.-
Newsweek Washington Bureau Chief Evan Thomas (Hardly a right wing publication!)

NOW The proof!

Thomas' assertion of 85% reporters vote Democratic is further backed up by:
"MSNBC.com identified 144 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 17 gave to Republicans.
Two gave to both parties."
Journalists give campaign cash - politics - msnbc.com

And it didn't stop there!

When this same Editor was
" Well, our job is to bash the president, that's what we do." --
Evan Thomas responding to a question on whether the media's unfair to Bush on the TV talk show Inside Washington, February 2, 2007.
http://newsbusters.org/node/10631asked:

YET when it came to Obama??? Love, diety..
" I mean in a way Obama’s standing above the country,
above – above the world, he’s sort of God." –

So the solution is NOT press management BECAUSE the MSM is getting beaten down by the Internet!
Just this forum is for example SHARING FACTS not fiction, not biased stories!

For example... where else would you have heard that Obama WANTS to bankrupt companies? Surely the above MSM won't tell the general public, so thank goodness for the Internet!

NO the solution is more information to counter the MASS disinformation of the MSM.. case in point.. this latest debacle.. did any of the MSM point out that the GOP wanted a 1 year not 2 months for the payroll cut?
NOPE ! You heard idiot Obama/Dems FIGHTING the 12 months making it a big deal for just 2 months!
And as a result MSM pushed that meme and now that's what the general public thinks..oh bad GOP didn't want to give payroll tax when THE GOP wanted it for 12 months and not just 2 months!
Did the public know that?? NOPE because the MSM loves Obama!

WE have to counter the misinformation that forms opinions that create votes for policies that are NOT for ALL our benefits!

 

[Article 15]

The birth of the 24 hour news cycle outrage-a-thon and Internet anonymity is the reason for it.

That is an interesting thought.

The vileness has always existed but with the advent of the Internet and media pushing it from every direction legions of people who would otherwise never be that nasty and divisive (especially to someone's face) are now......and it's contagious.

That and for some strange reason "compromise" has become synonymous with "weakness"

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Every problem we have today is caused by the dismissal of the constitution and the rule of law. Every single one.

Ron Paul 2012

And Paul and his supporter will only exacerbate every problem we have today by the dismissal of the constitution and its case law, as well as the rule of law.

The birth of the 24 hour news cycle outrage-a-thon and Internet anonymity is the reason for it.

Correct.

Which is in itself a representation of the Nation as a whole. And of course the 24 hour news cycle outrage-a-thon gave a voice to partisan extremists who only add fuel to the fire.

…and for some strange reason "compromise" has become synonymous with "weakness"

…and ‘failure.’

There are those who believe compromise amounts to a de facto ‘victory’ for their opponents.

 

[healthmyths]

The birth of the 24 hour news cycle outrage-a-thon and Internet anonymity is the reason for it.

That is an interesting thought.

The vileness has always existed but with the advent of the Internet and media pushing it from every direction legions of people who would otherwise never be that nasty and divisive (especially to someone's face) are now......and it's contagious.

That and for some strange reason "compromise" has become synonymous with "weakness"

NO! Compromise has become synonymous with making decisions based on popularity polls AND NOT based on principles!

There are very few principles that people should live by one of which is the "First do no harm"!
Another one.. "Law of unintended Consequences"
CASE in point:
If in 1986 Congress HAD NOT thought they were supposedly doing "good" by passing EMTALA we wouldn't have the gigantic mess called ObamaCare!

Look it up! and see why health care costs have skyrocketed!
AND it's not insurance companies fault.. it is "unintended consequences"!

 

[ba1614]

Every problem we have today is caused by the dismissal of the constitution and the rule of law. Every single one.

Ron Paul 2012

And Paul and his supporter will only exacerbate every problem we have today by the dismissal of the constitution and its case law, as well as the rule of law.

The birth of the 24 hour news cycle outrage-a-thon and Internet anonymity is the reason for it.

Correct.

Which is in itself a representation of the Nation as a whole. And of course the 24 hour news cycle outrage-a-thon gave a voice to partisan extremists who only add fuel to the fire.

…and for some strange reason "compromise" has become synonymous with "weakness"

…and ‘failure.’

There are those who believe compromise amounts to a de facto ‘victory’ for their opponents.

Compromising to pass bad bills is not good for America. I don't know how anyone can think passing bad bills just say "look I compromised" is good for anyone.

 

[Intense]

The birth of the 24 hour news cycle outrage-a-thon and Internet anonymity is the reason for it.

That is an interesting thought.

The vileness has always existed but with the advent of the Internet and media pushing it from every direction legions of people who would otherwise never be that nasty and divisive (especially to someone's face) are now......and it's contagious.

That and for some strange reason "compromise" has become synonymous with "weakness"

It's just an extension. It's also not as Anonymous as you would think on the surface.

When is compromise okay? Maybe when principle is not compromised as a result? Maybe when the Vision is still recognizable?

When is compromise not okay? When it troubles Conscience. When it corrupts Integrity. When it causes harm or damage.

How about considering that Ideas should stand or fall on their own merit, be they Left or Right. We should not be making excuses for abject failure, but seeking to amend wrong action. We should not be shoring up and making excuses for failed policy from either side. It just encourages and makes the Black Hole larger.