Lone woman shoots 2 home invasion suspect dead

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    Will she be charged with murder.....one of the perps name was Muhammed...ya know what that means.

    This was in Arizona ....Lone Woman Shoots Home Invasion Suspect Dead

    When is deadly force for self defense in Arizona justified?


    Under ARS 13-405, the use of deadly force is sometimes permitted in Arizona. However, it’s limited to narrow circumstances. You can only use deadly force if you’re in reasonable fear of immediate serious physical injury or death. In order to lawfully use deadly force against someone, a reasonable person, in the defendant’s position, would need to believe that deadly force was immediately necessary to protect against potentially deadly force. That’s because self-defense must always be reasonable, proportional, and immediately necessary. Unless you’re faced with the immediate threat of serious physical injury or death, you cannot use deadly force.
     
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    Good riddance towel head.
     
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    If they were unarmed...she might be in trouble.
     
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    Aspiring rapper? lol, they musta meant expiring rapper.
     
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    There were two guys Even if only one what do you think they were there for. A Tupperware party. She had every right to shoot them. Justifiable shoot.


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    If they were unarmed whilst being black or muslim she will be in trouble.
     
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    Detectives are continuing their investigation into the shooting and say the attempted break-in does not appear to be random and it could be drug related.

    I think they are trying to build a case against this woman....no report yet on the race of the perps...if they were black the media will get involved quickly.
     
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    Doesn’t matter if they were unarmed. They broke into her home and no where for her to go. So sit there and die or shoot the pieces of shit. I don’t care if they were white, black, Spanish, Asian or Muslims. Doesn’t matter. If they were running out of the house and she shot them in the back then yes but that didn’t happen.


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    I think Arizona should consider implementing the Castle Doctrine.

    Normally, deadly force is only allowed when a person reasonably believes that at the time such force was used it was necessary to prevent his/her imminent death or serious bodily injury. Whether the belief was reasonable is for a jury to determine.

    However, some states (including Florida where I live) have what is often referred to as the Castle Doctrine whereby a person may use deadly force against anyone who is attempting to break into or has broken into his/her dwelling. In these scenarios, there is a legal PRESUMPTION that the lawful occupant had a reasonable fear of death or serious bodily injury. Here is what the Florida Statutes say:

    (2) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using or threatening to use defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if:

    (a) The person against whom the defensive force was used or threatened was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person’s will from the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle; and

    (b) The person who uses or threatens to use defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.

    Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

    In other words, if this had happened in Florida the mere fact they had broken into the lady's home was legal justification for the use of deadly force. Unfortunately, Arizona does not have a Castle Doctrine.
     
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