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By Michael Barone
Monday, August 14, 2006

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MichaelBarone/2006/08/14/london_plot_exposes_left

Tuesday and Thursday. On Tuesday, anti-Iraq war candidate Ned Lamont beat Sen. Joseph Lieberman in Connecticut's Democratic primary. On Thursday, British authorities arrested more than 20 British Muslims who were plotting to blow up American airliners over the Atlantic Ocean.

Tuesday was a victory for the angry antiwar Left that set the tone in the Democrats' 2003-04 presidential cycle and seems likely to set the tone again in 2007-08. Thursday was a reminder that there are, as George W. Bush has finally taken to calling them, Islamic fascist terrorists who want to kill us and destroy our way of life.

Thursday's lesson was not one Tuesday's victors wanted to learn. Left-wing bloggers played an important part in Lamont's victory. Here's the reaction of one of them, John Aravosis, to the red alert ordered here in response to the British arrests: "Do I sound as if I don't believe this alert? Why, yes, that would be correct. I just don't believe it. Read the article. They say the plot had an 'Al Qaeda footprint.' Ooh, are you scared yet?"
What we are looking at here is cognitive dissonance. The mindset of the Left blogosphere is that there's no real terrorist threat out there. We wouldn't have any serious problem if we'd just do something different -- raise the minimum wage or reduce the number without health insurance (the first issue Lamont mentioned on election night), withdraw from Iraq or (as some Left bloggers suggest) sell out Israel.



The Iranian mullahs and the Holocaust-denying Mahmoud Ahmadinejad want to destroy Israel and inflict as much damage to the United States as they can. They say so over and over again. They hate our way of life, our freedoms and our tolerance. Unfortunately, there's no obvious and easy way to handle the Iranian regime, just as there was no obvious and easy way to handle Hitler in the late 1930s.

At least Neville Chamberlain was made of sterner stuff. His Tuesday was the Munich agreement in September 1938, when he and the French persuaded Czechoslovakia to give up its borderlands to Hitler. He was cheered by vast crowds eager to avoid the horrors of war. His Thursday came in March 1939, when Nazi troops marched into Prague.
Chamberlain proceeded to build up Britain's military forces and to embark on a vigorous diplomacy to cabin Hitler in. He realized instantly that he had been, as Winston Churchill was to say in his funeral oration in the House of Commons, "deceived by a wicked man." He prepared to call Churchill, his bitter critic on Munich, into government. Chamberlain's diplomacy ultimately failed: Hitler wanted war too much. But Chamberlain stayed true to his countrymen, yielding his place to Churchill and strenuously supporting him when Britain was in peril.

Can we expect as much of our Left? It seems doubtful. Our Left criticized George W. Bush when The New York Times revealed that the National Security Agency was surveilling telephone calls from al-Qaida suspects overseas to the United States. Now it appears that the United States surveilled the British terrorists, and that they made phone calls to the United States. The Left cried foul when The New York Times revealed that the United States was monitoring money transfers at the SWIFT bank clearinghouse in Brussels. Now it appears that there was monitoring of money transfers by the British terrorists in Pakistan. On Tuesday, the Left was gleeful that it was scoring political points against George W. Bush. On Thursday, it seemed that the supposedly controversial NSA surveillance contributed to savings thousands of lives.

Joseph Lieberman is being criticized for saying, "I'm worried that too many people, both in politics and out, don't appreciate the seriousness of the threat to American security and the evil of the enemy that faces us -- more evil, or as evil, as Nazism and probably more dangerous than the Soviet communists we fought during the long Cold War. We cannot deceive ourselves that we live in safety today and the war is over, and it's why we have to stay strong and vigilant."

That view didn't prevail on Tuesday. But it sure made sense on Thursday.
 
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London plot exposes Left
By Michael Barone
Monday, August 14, 2006

Tuesday and Thursday. On Tuesday, anti-Iraq war candidate Ned Lamont beat Sen. Joseph Lieberman in Connecticut's Democratic primary. On Thursday, British authorities arrested more than 20 British Muslims who were plotting to blow up American airliners over the Atlantic Ocean.

Tuesday was a victory for the angry antiwar Left that set the tone in the Democrats' 2003-04 presidential cycle and seems likely to set the tone again in 2007-08. Thursday was a reminder that there are, as George W. Bush has finally taken to calling them, Islamic fascist terrorists who want to kill us and destroy our way of life.Now if the administration would just make clear, that the Muslims are declaring war or supporting attacks on non-Muslims, we really will be clarifying the issue.

Thursday's lesson was not one Tuesday's victors wanted to learn. Left-wing bloggers played an important part in Lamont's victory. Here's the reaction of one of them, John Aravosis, to the red alert ordered here in response to the British arrests:
"Do I sound as if I don't believe this alert? Why, yes, that would be correct. I just don't believe it. Read the article. They say the plot had an 'Al Qaeda footprint.' Ooh, are you scared yet?"​

What we are looking at here is cognitive dissonance. The mindset of the Left blogosphere is that there's no real terrorist threat out there. We wouldn't have any serious problem if we'd just do something different -- raise the minimum wage or reduce the number without health insurance (the first issue Lamont mentioned on election night), withdraw from Iraq or (as some Left bloggers suggest) sell out Israel.The only thing 'we' can do is say that "There is no god besides Allah, and whatever"...then they might stop, maybe.

As for Lamont, on victory night he mentioned his policy to handle the nuclear threat posed by Iran: We should "bring in allies" and "use carrots as well as sticks." He evidently failed to notice that we deputized Britain, France and Germany to negotiate with Iran for three years and that Iran has been offered plenty of carrots and has not been threatened with many sticks. Once again, a disconnect with reality. He didn't fail to notice, he doesn't care. It's all about him and against GOP. I truly wish that some reasonable Democrats would emerge, since I think they have the entryway into the Presidency, unless events overtake them-which is more likely than not.

The Iranian mullahs and the Holocaust-denying Mahmoud Ahmadinejad want to destroy Israel and inflict as much damage to the United States as they can. They say so over and over again. They hate our way of life, our freedoms and our tolerance. Unfortunately, there's no obvious and easy way to handle the Iranian regime, just as there was no obvious and easy way to handle Hitler in the late 1930s.I disagree with all of this, it's not about freedom, tolerance, etc. It's about religion.

At least Neville Chamberlain was made of sterner stuff. His Tuesday was the Munich agreement in September 1938, when he and the French persuaded Czechoslovakia to give up its borderlands to Hitler. He was cheered by vast crowds eager to avoid the horrors of war. His Thursday came in March 1939, when Nazi troops marched into Prague.Yes, there was a thunderous absence of applause, from any quarter in the West. Then again, there wasn't any push for a sterner stance.

Chamberlain proceeded to build up Britain's military forces and to embark on a vigorous diplomacy to cabin Hitler in. He realized instantly that he had been, as Winston Churchill was to say in his funeral oration in the House of Commons, "deceived by a wicked man." He prepared to call Churchill, his bitter critic on Munich, into government. Chamberlain's diplomacy ultimately failed: Hitler wanted war too much. But Chamberlain stayed true to his countrymen, yielding his place to Churchill and strenuously supporting him when Britain was in peril.Perhaps not enough time? But like the absence of applause, there has been a deafening absence of condemnation for the appeasement. It was appeasement.

Can we expect as much of our Left? It seems doubtful. Our Left criticized George W. Bush when The New York Times revealed that the National Security Agency was surveilling telephone calls from al-Qaida suspects overseas to the United States. Now it appears that the United States surveilled the British terrorists, and that they made phone calls to the United States. The Left cried foul when The New York Times revealed that the United States was monitoring money transfers at the SWIFT bank clearinghouse in Brussels. Now it appears that there was monitoring of money transfers by the British terrorists in Pakistan. On Tuesday, the Left was gleeful that it was scoring political points against George W. Bush. On Thursday, it seemed that the supposedly controversial NSA surveillance contributed to savings thousands of lives.Of 'saving lives' in the hypothetical? Gag me, says the left, but not aloud. Better that many should die, then they can blame Blair/Bush for that too.

Joseph Lieberman is being criticized for saying, "I'm worried that too many people, both in politics and out, don't appreciate the seriousness of the threat to American security and the evil of the enemy that faces us -- more evil, or as evil, as Nazism and probably more dangerous than the Soviet communists we fought during the long Cold War. We cannot deceive ourselves that we live in safety today and the war is over, and it's why we have to stay strong and vigilant."

That view didn't prevail on Tuesday. But it sure made sense on Thursday.More evil, they aren't 'just targeting the Jews.' They are for Muslims only, no reprieve for agnostics or atheists either.
 
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Let's rebuke Kathianne's post point by point:

1 - Muslims died in the World Trade Centers. Muslims died in the London Attacks. Muslims die in terrorist related activites throughout the world each year.

2 - Get real.

3 - Unfortunately it seems as though moderates are on the way out for both parties. Moderates accomplished nothing while they were in office, and both parties are horribly disatisfied with them. Expect more bickering to come in the next couple of years.

4 - Yes, they hate Christianity? Oh please. They don't hate our freedoms... They hate us meddling. They want us out of their lands. They want us to back the hell out of the Middle East. Most importantly they want us to stop supporting Israel. Turn this into a religious war, and the dark ages are not far away... Anyone who wants to turn this into a religious war is for genocide, and another holocaust. Honestly... Thats what it will degrade into.

5 - Can you honestly blame the British for trying to avoid another World War? Sure its easy to say in hindsight that what he did was the wrong move... But bear in mind that the first World War was but 20 years fresh then... Then again, I don't see you condemning Truman for "appeasing" the Chinese by not expanding the Korean War like McArthur wanted...
 
4 - Yes, they hate Christianity? Oh please. They don't hate our freedoms... They hate us meddling. They want us out of their lands. They want us to back the hell out of the Middle East. Most importantly they want us to stop supporting Israel. Turn this into a religious war, and the dark ages are not far away... Anyone who wants to turn this into a religious war is for genocide, and another holocaust. Honestly... Thats what it will degrade into.

I think I finally get it-----the jihadists claim a war but if we don't show up the war won't happen thereby saving the whole world !!!!
 
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4 - Yes, they hate Christianity? Oh please. They don't hate our freedoms... They hate us meddling. They want us out of their lands. They want us to back the hell out of the Middle East. Most importantly they want us to stop supporting Israel. Turn this into a religious war, and the dark ages are not far away... Anyone who wants to turn this into a religious war is for genocide, and another holocaust. Honestly... Thats what it will degrade into.

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Guess what the extreame Muslims already did?:cuckoo:
 
Let's rebuke Kathianne's post point by point:

1 - Muslims died in the World Trade Centers. Muslims died in the London Attacks. Muslims die in terrorist related activites throughout the world each year.

2 - Get real.

3 - Unfortunately it seems as though moderates are on the way out for both parties. Moderates accomplished nothing while they were in office, and both parties are horribly disatisfied with them. Expect more bickering to come in the next couple of years.

4 - Yes, they hate Christianity? Oh please. They don't hate our freedoms... They hate us meddling. They want us out of their lands. They want us to back the hell out of the Middle East. Most importantly they want us to stop supporting Israel. Turn this into a religious war, and the dark ages are not far away... Anyone who wants to turn this into a religious war is for genocide, and another holocaust. Honestly... Thats what it will degrade into.

5 - Can you honestly blame the British for trying to avoid another World War? Sure its easy to say in hindsight that what he did was the wrong move... But bear in mind that the first World War was but 20 years fresh then... Then again, I don't see you condemning Truman for "appeasing" the Chinese by not expanding the Korean War like McArthur wanted...



1. Yes Muslims have died in terror attacks, so what? Just shows how determined Islamofacists are at their goals of mass murder.

2. Liberals better get real if they think for a moment that somehow if they kiss terrorists asses they will magically be immune to terrorists attacks.

3. The Republicans have in some cases been too moderate on issues, but if the only answer voters and liberals can come up with regarding that is to impeach Bush, pull all our troops out of Iraq this instant when the Iraqi govt is close to taking over the reighns anyway, and negotiating with the insane Iranian president who has said repeatedly he wants to be the catalyst for World War III, starting with Israel, then the West...........then we as a country are in very big trouble.

4. I almost peed my pants reading this one, yes they hate Chritianity, yes they hate America and no they would not stop attacking us if we just "stopped meddling" in their tea party. Why do they hate the idea of democratic governments sprouting up of they don't loathe freedom and the intellect that freedom brings.? They want countries to be subjugated to tyranical leaders to keep the people downtrodden, poor and ignorant so they will be more receptive to brainwashing by radicals and their hatred for Israel. It's that simple!! It's already is a religious war, it became so centuries ago when the Koran was written which states all who are not Muslim are enemies of Islam.
 
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Let's rebuke Kathianne's post point by point:

1 - Muslims died in the World Trade Centers. Muslims died in the London Attacks. Muslims die in terrorist related activites throughout the world each year.

2 - Get real.

3 - Unfortunately it seems as though moderates are on the way out for both parties. Moderates accomplished nothing while they were in office, and both parties are horribly disatisfied with them. Expect more bickering to come in the next couple of years.

4 - Yes, they hate Christianity? Oh please. They don't hate our freedoms... They hate us meddling. They want us out of their lands. They want us to back the hell out of the Middle East. Most importantly they want us to stop supporting Israel. Turn this into a religious war, and the dark ages are not far away... Anyone who wants to turn this into a religious war is for genocide, and another holocaust. Honestly... Thats what it will degrade into.

5 - Can you honestly blame the British for trying to avoid another World War? Sure its easy to say in hindsight that what he did was the wrong move... But bear in mind that the first World War was but 20 years fresh then... Then again, I don't see you condemning Truman for "appeasing" the Chinese by not expanding the Korean War like McArthur wanted...

Perhaps if Truman had listened to McArthur, a united Korea might have been the economic powerhouse of the Pacific today. As for the other 'points' you made, others dealt with.
 

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