London Olympics Provide Further Evidence Socialism Sucks

There's only one way to buy London Olympic tickets-- through the 'official' office that's controlled by the government. They've even solidified their monopoly by making it a CRIMINAL OFFENSE for individuals to resell Olympic tickets.


Ticketing policy has nothing to do with government. Ticketing policy is determined by the IOC and LOCOG and administered by the latter.

LOCOG (The London Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games) is not a government body. It is a private company.

http://www.london2012.com/about-us/the-people-delivering-the-games/locog/

Is a "private company" in the same manner the US Post Office is a private company:

The London Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games (LOCOG) is the organisation that will oversee the planning and development of the 2012 Summer Olympic and Paralympic Games. It was jointly established by the UK Government's Department for Culture, Media and Sport, the Mayor of London and the British Olympic Association

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I love it when someone resorts to namecalling as the last resort of trying to convince themselves they are right! It proves they have nothing intelligent to bring to the table.

You focus on the name calling cos you know you otherwise were called out proper for your BS. This is why I went no holds bar on calling you a dick face. Cos you are one. It's not "resorting." :clap2:

This is the second time today I've had to call a conservative a prat. Do me a favor and stop talking out of your ass. The London Olympics are doing ok... at least they're not busing thousands of spectators like the Chinese did. They've had some problems, but nothing that wasn't fixed quite quickly. Calm down before you make a total fool of yourself.

WTF are you talking about CG? This a-hole said we were going off topic to avoid something and we clearly were on topic. And second off, the Olympics are not being managed properly. You have NBC not broadcasting major events live and you have a bunch of empty seats at many events. Neither marks are gold standards in efficiency or value.
 
Great Britain has become a Police State. And it's very sad to see our Nation following their lead on that.

Ironic; that Euro peons mindlessly submit to a central authority after millions of lives lost in bloodshed to overthrow monarchies.

Yes, indeed.

A nation which is economically in bad shape is STILL paying for parasitic monarchy. Unbelievable.

I'll take a "parasitic monarchy" any day over a hoard of welfare ticks. Under the British monarchy, the government only took 3% of the country's GDP. Now it takes over 50%
 
You focus on the name calling cos you know you otherwise were called out proper for your BS. This is why I went no holds bar on calling you a dick face. Cos you are one. It's not "resorting." :clap2:

This is the second time today I've had to call a conservative a prat. Do me a favor and stop talking out of your ass. The London Olympics are doing ok... at least they're not busing thousands of spectators like the Chinese did. They've had some problems, but nothing that wasn't fixed quite quickly. Calm down before you make a total fool of yourself.

WTF are you talking about CG? This a-hole said we were going off topic to avoid something and we clearly were on topic. And second off, the Olympics are not being managed properly. You have NBC not broadcasting major events live and you have a bunch of empty seats at many events. Neither marks are gold standards in efficiency or value.

:lol: You prove your ignorance by the post! You say the Olympics are being mismanaged and then cite the fact that NBC are not broadcasting events live. So, the fact that a US television company hasn't got its act trogether re the Olympics is a reflection that the Olympics have been badly managed, is it? :lmao:

As for empty seats, Toro's post above provides explanation for that. They were largely sponsor's tickets...tickets that HAD been sold or allocated. But, hey, why let facts get in the way of your own political agenda.
 
Ironic; that Euro peons mindlessly submit to a central authority after millions of lives lost in bloodshed to overthrow monarchies.

Yes, indeed.

A nation which is economically in bad shape is STILL paying for parasitic monarchy. Unbelievable.

I'll take a "parasitic monarchy" any day over a hoard of welfare ticks. Under the British monarchy, the government only took 3% of the country's GDP. Now it takes over 50%

Yup at least if you had a benevolent king then they were golden days. And if you had a tyrant then you at least accepted it and dealt with it, instead of agonizing against trying to change a bunch of idiots ways.
 
This is the second time today I've had to call a conservative a prat. Do me a favor and stop talking out of your ass. The London Olympics are doing ok... at least they're not busing thousands of spectators like the Chinese did. They've had some problems, but nothing that wasn't fixed quite quickly. Calm down before you make a total fool of yourself.

WTF are you talking about CG? This a-hole said we were going off topic to avoid something and we clearly were on topic. And second off, the Olympics are not being managed properly. You have NBC not broadcasting major events live and you have a bunch of empty seats at many events. Neither marks are gold standards in efficiency or value.

:lol: You prove your ignorance by the post! You say the Olympics are being mismanaged and then cite the fact that NBC are not broadcasting events live. So, the fact that a US television company hasn't got its act trogether re the Olympics is a reflection that the Olympics have been badly managed, is it? :lmao:

As for empty seats, Toro's post above provides explanation for that. They were largely sponsor's tickets...tickets that HAD been sold or allocated. But, hey, why let facts get in the way of your own political agenda.

The Olympics has control of who broadcasts them. They should insist on live coverage as part of the contracts. That's in their best interest.

And sponsor tickets is no excuse for empty seats. There are plenty of ways to avoid that problem.
 
WTF are you talking about CG? This a-hole said we were going off topic to avoid something and we clearly were on topic. And second off, the Olympics are not being managed properly. You have NBC not broadcasting major events live and you have a bunch of empty seats at many events. Neither marks are gold standards in efficiency or value.

:lol: You prove your ignorance by the post! You say the Olympics are being mismanaged and then cite the fact that NBC are not broadcasting events live. So, the fact that a US television company hasn't got its act trogether re the Olympics is a reflection that the Olympics have been badly managed, is it? :lmao:

As for empty seats, Toro's post above provides explanation for that. They were largely sponsor's tickets...tickets that HAD been sold or allocated. But, hey, why let facts get in the way of your own political agenda.

The Olympics has control of who broadcasts them. They should insist on live coverage as part of the contracts. That's in their best interest.

And sponsor tickets is no excuse for empty seats. There are plenty of ways to avoid that problem.


you want the IOC to dictate even more conditions?

i think you have no clue what you are railing against.

hint: it is not socialism
 
WTF are you talking about CG? This a-hole said we were going off topic to avoid something and we clearly were on topic. And second off, the Olympics are not being managed properly. You have NBC not broadcasting major events live and you have a bunch of empty seats at many events. Neither marks are gold standards in efficiency or value.

:lol: You prove your ignorance by the post! You say the Olympics are being mismanaged and then cite the fact that NBC are not broadcasting events live. So, the fact that a US television company hasn't got its act trogether re the Olympics is a reflection that the Olympics have been badly managed, is it? :lmao:

As for empty seats, Toro's post above provides explanation for that. They were largely sponsor's tickets...tickets that HAD been sold or allocated. But, hey, why let facts get in the way of your own political agenda.

The Olympics has control of who broadcasts them. They should insist on live coverage as part of the contracts. That's in their best interest.

And sponsor tickets is no excuse for empty seats. There are plenty of ways to avoid that problem.

Yes. The IOC, not LOCOG or any other local organising body, is the owner of the global broadcast rights for the Olympic Games – including broadcasts on television, radio, mobile and internet platforms – and is responsible for allocating Olympic broadcast rights to media companies throughout the world through the negotiation of rights agreements.

NBC has held exclusive rights to the Summer Olympics since 1988, and its contract runs through 2020. Clearly they are blacking out live coverage in order to replay them in prime time. To use this in some vain attempt to accuse Britain of mismanaging the Olympics is, to say the least, laughable.

As for ticketing, local organisers of the Olympics are contractually obligated to issue tickets in line with IOC rules and regulations. Some more 'facts' for you...

The International Olympic Committee (IOC) has been urged to implement a standardised ticketing platform for future Olympic Games in a bid to avoid the embarrassing sight of empty seats at Games venues.

Following Beijing’s struggle to fill its venues four years ago, London 2012 has endured similar issues, forcing organisers to negotiate with international federations on a daily basis in a bid to reclaim some seats for the public. With many people having been unsuccessful in securing Games tickets, the sight of empty seats has provoked anger, with the situation being attributed to Games officials and athletes’ friends and family failing to take up prime ‘accredited seating’ for events. British Olympic Association (BOA) chairman Colin Moynihan said that the ticketing issue would be raised with the IOC at the post-Games briefing in Rio de Janeiro.

Calls for IOC to implement standardised ticketing platform
 
You focus on the name calling cos you know you otherwise were called out proper for your BS. This is why I went no holds bar on calling you a dick face. Cos you are one. It's not "resorting." :clap2:

This is the second time today I've had to call a conservative a prat. Do me a favor and stop talking out of your ass. The London Olympics are doing ok... at least they're not busing thousands of spectators like the Chinese did. They've had some problems, but nothing that wasn't fixed quite quickly. Calm down before you make a total fool of yourself.

WTF are you talking about CG? This a-hole said we were going off topic to avoid something and we clearly were on topic. And second off, the Olympics are not being managed properly. You have NBC not broadcasting major events live and you have a bunch of empty seats at many events. Neither marks are gold standards in efficiency or value.

I'm pretty sure NBC understands how to maximize their profits better than you do, which might explain why YOU think they should broadcast major events live - at 7:00 in the morning and lunch time US, for example.

My gawd.
 
WTF are you talking about CG? This a-hole said we were going off topic to avoid something and we clearly were on topic. And second off, the Olympics are not being managed properly. You have NBC not broadcasting major events live and you have a bunch of empty seats at many events. Neither marks are gold standards in efficiency or value.

:lol: You prove your ignorance by the post! You say the Olympics are being mismanaged and then cite the fact that NBC are not broadcasting events live. So, the fact that a US television company hasn't got its act trogether re the Olympics is a reflection that the Olympics have been badly managed, is it? :lmao:

As for empty seats, Toro's post above provides explanation for that. They were largely sponsor's tickets...tickets that HAD been sold or allocated. But, hey, why let facts get in the way of your own political agenda.

The Olympics has control of who broadcasts them. They should insist on live coverage as part of the contracts. That's in their best interest.

WTF are you talking about? (1) Why would it be in their best interest to tell broadcasters when to broadcast, thereby reducing the income from broadcast rights? and (2) why would the Olympics want to force NBC to broadcast the 4x100 relay at 1:00 EST in the afternoon when no one is around to see it?
 
:lol: You prove your ignorance by the post! You say the Olympics are being mismanaged and then cite the fact that NBC are not broadcasting events live. So, the fact that a US television company hasn't got its act trogether re the Olympics is a reflection that the Olympics have been badly managed, is it? :lmao:

As for empty seats, Toro's post above provides explanation for that. They were largely sponsor's tickets...tickets that HAD been sold or allocated. But, hey, why let facts get in the way of your own political agenda.

The Olympics has control of who broadcasts them. They should insist on live coverage as part of the contracts. That's in their best interest.

And sponsor tickets is no excuse for empty seats. There are plenty of ways to avoid that problem.

Yes. The IOC, not LOCOG or any other local organising body, is the owner of the global broadcast rights for the Olympic Games – including broadcasts on television, radio, mobile and internet platforms – and is responsible for allocating Olympic broadcast rights to media companies throughout the world through the negotiation of rights agreements.

NBC has held exclusive rights to the Summer Olympics since 1988, and its contract runs through 2020. Clearly they are blacking out live coverage in order to replay them in prime time. To use this in some vain attempt to accuse Britain of mismanaging the Olympics is, to say the least, laughable.

As for ticketing, local organisers of the Olympics are contractually obligated to issue tickets in line with IOC rules and regulations. Some more 'facts' for you...

The International Olympic Committee (IOC) has been urged to implement a standardised ticketing platform for future Olympic Games in a bid to avoid the embarrassing sight of empty seats at Games venues.

Following Beijing’s struggle to fill its venues four years ago, London 2012 has endured similar issues, forcing organisers to negotiate with international federations on a daily basis in a bid to reclaim some seats for the public. With many people having been unsuccessful in securing Games tickets, the sight of empty seats has provoked anger, with the situation being attributed to Games officials and athletes’ friends and family failing to take up prime ‘accredited seating’ for events. British Olympic Association (BOA) chairman Colin Moynihan said that the ticketing issue would be raised with the IOC at the post-Games briefing in Rio de Janeiro.

Calls for IOC to implement standardised ticketing platform

In idiot NBC land, prime time is 11:05 at night to be showing a Michael Phelps race; about 7 or 8 hours after he won the race and everybody knows it. I mean they're not even showing it at 7:05 in favor of fluff pieces on past Olympians. People are going to bed or doing other things by then.

NBC/IOC missed the memo. We have the internet. Watching a sports game when you know the winner is a turn-off and I can't tell you how much "prime time" I've skipped b/c of it.

And there is a million channels on TV now, there's absolutely no excuse to not have every event broadcasted. They should have worked with NBC to make that a reality. I realize they have it online, but they're actually asking for people's private account info to make that happen and I said f that. Broadcast it or don't. That's just nonsense. I haven't watched anything online. I'm not giving those a-holes my info.

Back to ticketing, how is "IOC regulations" supposed to be an excuse for empty arenas? That may be a part of it; but other posters have posted evidence that inefficient govt. regulations are also the root of the problem.

Hey, blame IOC, NBC, London or whoever. I don't care. The point is that it has been run like shit and a lot of people have lost their excitement for the Olympics. I personally was looking forward for a long time to Beijing and London. I couldn't even tell you where 2016 Olympics are w/o looking it up. That's how big their failures are.
 

So what point are you trying to make? There have long been laws making it an offence for non-licensed individuals to sell on tickets for certain sporting events. That's what empowers the police to arrest ticket touts or confiscate their tickets. For example:

resale of football tickets is illegal under section 166Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994. This Act stipulates that it is anoffence for an unauthorised person to sell a ticket for a designated footballmatch or otherwise dispose of such a ticket to another person.

However, touts began to find ways around this legislation, for example, byselling other types of merchandise at an inflated price with the inclusion of a‘free’ match ticket. Consequently, this Act has been amended by section 53 ofthe Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006. This imposes the following restrictions inrelation to the resale of football tickets:
•newspapers cannot carry advertising for ticket touts;
•touts are prevented from claiming that a match ticket comes ‘free’ withanother product;
•section 166 will apply to people offering tickets with a wider/hospitalitypackage and people who provide tickets to touts.

If someone is convicted of ticket touting at football matches under UK law,they may be liable to a fine of up to £5,000 and have a football banning order imposed upon them.

Ticket touting - Consumer Law


With ticket touting guaranteed to be a major problem with the Olympics, why should it be any surprise that an existing law was extended to cover the Olympics? It would have been irresponsible to NOT implement such policies and law, which is probably one of the IOC conditions anyway.

you get busted for scalping tickets here, too. not quite sure what he's whinging about.

The Laws vary by state, For example is legal in Arizona.

But the trend is towards greater government control stronger fascism/outright socialism is what turn Americans on nowadays.

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