London Olympics Provide Further Evidence Socialism Sucks

[jillian]

Ticketing policy has nothing to do with government. Ticketing policy is determined by the IOC and LOCOG and administered by the latter.

LOCOG (The London Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games) is not a government body. It is a private company.

http://www.london2012.com/about-us/the-people-delivering-the-games/locog/

london olympic and paralympic games act 2006 section 31

So what point are you trying to make? There have long been laws making it an offence for non-licensed individuals to sell on tickets for certain sporting events. That's what empowers the police to arrest ticket touts or confiscate their tickets. For example:

resale of football tickets is illegal under section 166Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994. This Act stipulates that it is anoffence for an unauthorised person to sell a ticket for a designated footballmatch or otherwise dispose of such a ticket to another person.

However, touts began to find ways around this legislation, for example, byselling other types of merchandise at an inflated price with the inclusion of a‘free’ match ticket. Consequently, this Act has been amended by section 53 ofthe Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006. This imposes the following restrictions inrelation to the resale of football tickets:
•newspapers cannot carry advertising for ticket touts;
•touts are prevented from claiming that a match ticket comes ‘free’ withanother product;
•section 166 will apply to people offering tickets with a wider/hospitalitypackage and people who provide tickets to touts.

If someone is convicted of ticket touting at football matches under UK law,they may be liable to a fine of up to £5,000 and have a football banning order imposed upon them.

Ticket touting - Consumer Law

With ticket touting guaranteed to be a major problem with the Olympics, why should it be any surprise that an existing law was extended to cover the Olympics? It would have been irresponsible to NOT implement such policies and law, which is probably one of the IOC conditions anyway.

you get busted for scalping tickets here, too. not quite sure what he's whinging about.

 

[paulitician]

The British People have fully embraced the Police State. They just don't value their Freedom & Liberty. It is pretty sad & ironic, considering the Brits are always so quick to preach to other Nations about Freedom & Democracy. They have very little of that themselves at this point. They're a Surveillance Society now. They just don't know any better either. They've been indoctrinated on accepting their Police State from childhood. It's happening in our nation as well. We're not far behind the Brits. It's very sad.

 

[Colin]

london olympic and paralympic games act 2006 section 31

So what point are you trying to make? There have long been laws making it an offence for non-licensed individuals to sell on tickets for certain sporting events. That's what empowers the police to arrest ticket touts or confiscate their tickets. For example:

resale of football tickets is illegal under section 166Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994. This Act stipulates that it is anoffence for an unauthorised person to sell a ticket for a designated footballmatch or otherwise dispose of such a ticket to another person.

However, touts began to find ways around this legislation, for example, byselling other types of merchandise at an inflated price with the inclusion of a‘free’ match ticket. Consequently, this Act has been amended by section 53 ofthe Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006. This imposes the following restrictions inrelation to the resale of football tickets:
•newspapers cannot carry advertising for ticket touts;
•touts are prevented from claiming that a match ticket comes ‘free’ withanother product;
•section 166 will apply to people offering tickets with a wider/hospitalitypackage and people who provide tickets to touts.

If someone is convicted of ticket touting at football matches under UK law,they may be liable to a fine of up to £5,000 and have a football banning order imposed upon them.

Ticket touting - Consumer Law

With ticket touting guaranteed to be a major problem with the Olympics, why should it be any surprise that an existing law was extended to cover the Olympics? It would have been irresponsible to NOT implement such policies and law, which is probably one of the IOC conditions anyway.

you get busted for scalping tickets here, too. not quite sure what he's whinging about.

Something he read from an anti-government blogger.

 

[kiwiman127]

The ignorance that has been displayed on this thread is basically sad! We have people here who certainly need to educate themselves before making wild and totally inaccurate statements based on their core ideological beliefs.
The Brits have fully embraced the Police State? Un-friggen believable! Britain is a socialistic country? Britain doesn't have a capitalistic economy? OMG! Yep they have social programs and that's it, so does the USA! The Brits do have a free market, just like the US.
I may have missed some other gems, but I was in such shock by the comments on this thread by some of my fellow posters, I guess I may have forgotten them.
Oh and;

Definition of CAPITALISM

: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market
Capitalism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

 

[eflatminor]

England is a parliament (right wing)

Another example of why nobody takes you seriously.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Ticketing policy has nothing to do with government. Ticketing policy is determined by the IOC and LOCOG and administered by the latter.

LOCOG (The London Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games) is not a government body. It is a private company.

http://www.london2012.com/about-us/the-people-delivering-the-games/locog/

london olympic and paralympic games act 2006 section 31

So what point are you trying to make? There have long been laws making it an offence for non-licensed individuals to sell on tickets for certain sporting events. That's what empowers the police to arrest ticket touts or confiscate their tickets. For example:

resale of football tickets is illegal under section 166Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994. This Act stipulates that it is anoffence for an unauthorised person to sell a ticket for a designated footballmatch or otherwise dispose of such a ticket to another person.

However, touts began to find ways around this legislation, for example, byselling other types of merchandise at an inflated price with the inclusion of a‘free’ match ticket. Consequently, this Act has been amended by section 53 ofthe Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006. This imposes the following restrictions inrelation to the resale of football tickets:
•newspapers cannot carry advertising for ticket touts;
•touts are prevented from claiming that a match ticket comes ‘free’ withanother product;
•section 166 will apply to people offering tickets with a wider/hospitalitypackage and people who provide tickets to touts.

If someone is convicted of ticket touting at football matches under UK law,they may be liable to a fine of up to £5,000 and have a football banning order imposed upon them.

Ticket touting - Consumer Law

With ticket touting guaranteed to be a major problem with the Olympics, why should it be any surprise that an existing law was extended to cover the Olympics? It would have been irresponsible to NOT implement such policies and law, which is probably one of the IOC conditions anyway.

the law i linked to was specific for the olympics, that's why it has the name it has.

and yes, it was one of the IOC's conditions. which makes your "the locog is a private company" somewhat irrelevant, no?

fifa and uefa also set conditions.

i bet the act you cited from 1994 was enacted because of the 1996 euro.

brazil has already passed specific laws because of the world cup and the olympics.

 

[tjvh]

England is a parliament (right wing)

Huh? That's the most curios definition of "right wing" I've ever seen. Don't libturds like you hold up the UK health system as a shining example of socialism?

And don't forget England had so much success with their Liberal gun control initiatives.

 

[Colin]

london olympic and paralympic games act 2006 section 31

So what point are you trying to make? There have long been laws making it an offence for non-licensed individuals to sell on tickets for certain sporting events. That's what empowers the police to arrest ticket touts or confiscate their tickets. For example:

resale of football tickets is illegal under section 166Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994. This Act stipulates that it is anoffence for an unauthorised person to sell a ticket for a designated footballmatch or otherwise dispose of such a ticket to another person.

However, touts began to find ways around this legislation, for example, byselling other types of merchandise at an inflated price with the inclusion of a‘free’ match ticket. Consequently, this Act has been amended by section 53 ofthe Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006. This imposes the following restrictions inrelation to the resale of football tickets:
•newspapers cannot carry advertising for ticket touts;
•touts are prevented from claiming that a match ticket comes ‘free’ withanother product;
•section 166 will apply to people offering tickets with a wider/hospitalitypackage and people who provide tickets to touts.

If someone is convicted of ticket touting at football matches under UK law,they may be liable to a fine of up to £5,000 and have a football banning order imposed upon them.

Ticket touting - Consumer Law

With ticket touting guaranteed to be a major problem with the Olympics, why should it be any surprise that an existing law was extended to cover the Olympics? It would have been irresponsible to NOT implement such policies and law, which is probably one of the IOC conditions anyway.

the law i linked to was specific for the olympics, that's why it has the name it has.

and yes, it was one of the IOC's conditions. which makes your "the locog is a private company" somewhat irrelevant, no?

fifa and uefa also set conditions.

i bet the act you cited from 1994 was enacted because of the 1996 euro.

brazil has already passed specific laws because of the world cup and the olympics.

Yes....and.....? The point of my post was to correct the misconception in the op that the government is responsible for ticket sales.

How are my comments about LOCOG irrelevant? They are responsible for organising ticket sales in the UK.

 

[L.K.Eder]

So what point are you trying to make? There have long been laws making it an offence for non-licensed individuals to sell on tickets for certain sporting events. That's what empowers the police to arrest ticket touts or confiscate their tickets. For example:


With ticket touting guaranteed to be a major problem with the Olympics, why should it be any surprise that an existing law was extended to cover the Olympics? It would have been irresponsible to NOT implement such policies and law, which is probably one of the IOC conditions anyway.

the law i linked to was specific for the olympics, that's why it has the name it has.

and yes, it was one of the IOC's conditions. which makes your "the locog is a private company" somewhat irrelevant, no?

fifa and uefa also set conditions.

i bet the act you cited from 1994 was enacted because of the 1996 euro.

brazil has already passed specific laws because of the world cup and the olympics.

Yes....and.....? The point of my post was to correct the misconception in the op that the government is responsible for ticket sales.

How are my comments about LOCOG irrelevant? They are responsible for organising ticket sales in the UK.

duh, the government can pass laws, not a private company.

the interesting question is, why was this law passed?

 

[Contumacious]

Great Britain has become a Police State. And it's very sad to see our Nation following their lead on that.

A fucking police state, indeed.


Email and web use 'to be monitored' under new laws

 

[Colin]

the law i linked to was specific for the olympics, that's why it has the name it has.

and yes, it was one of the IOC's conditions. which makes your "the locog is a private company" somewhat irrelevant, no?

fifa and uefa also set conditions.

i bet the act you cited from 1994 was enacted because of the 1996 euro.

brazil has already passed specific laws because of the world cup and the olympics.

Yes....and.....? The point of my post was to correct the misconception in the op that the government is responsible for ticket sales.

How are my comments about LOCOG irrelevant? They are responsible for organising ticket sales in the UK.

duh, the government can pass laws, not a private company.

the interesting question is, why was this law passed?

Yes. I know. I haven't stated anywhere that LOCOG pass laws. It goes without saying that laws are Acts of Parliament. Doesn't change the fact that LOCOG, not the government, is responsible for managing the games, which happens to include selling tickets.

As for why the laws were passed, here's what LOCOG says in one of its documents.

LOCOG is responsible for selling tickets (for both sporting and non-sporting events) to the 2012 Games. To prevent tickets being made available on the black market and thereby protecting the consumer, the 2006 Act introduces criminal offences in relation to the resale of tickets and the sale of fake London 2012 tickets. LOCOG will work with the police and other public authorities to ensure these laws are enforced.

http://www.london2012.com/documents/brand-guidelines/statutory-marketing-rights.pdf

 

[Contumacious]

Great Britain has become a Police State. And it's very sad to see our Nation following their lead on that.

Ironic; that Euro peons mindlessly submit to a central authority after millions of lives lost in bloodshed to overthrow monarchies.

Yes, indeed.

A nation which is economically in bad shape is STILL paying for parasitic monarchy. Unbelievable.

 

[philsphan04]

Hmmm never heard about any of this. Thanks for the link!

 

[Colin]

Great Britain has become a Police State. And it's very sad to see our Nation following their lead on that.

Ironic; that Euro peons mindlessly submit to a central authority after millions of lives lost in bloodshed to overthrow monarchies.

Yes, indeed.

A nation which is economically in bad shape is STILL paying for parasitic monarchy. Unbelievable.

Hilarious how the op is now doing everything he can to divert away from the original post about Olympic tickets!

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Ironic; that Euro peons mindlessly submit to a central authority after millions of lives lost in bloodshed to overthrow monarchies.

Yes, indeed.

A nation which is economically in bad shape is STILL paying for parasitic monarchy. Unbelievable.

Hilarious how the op is now doing everything he can to divert away from the original post about Olympic tickets!

Not really. We were discussing the root of the problem. I guess it's just hard for you to follow intricate subject matter.

Let me put in terms you can understand:

Government no good. Government not care about people only themselves. Government not no work right and people get no tickets. This no better than when King.

There you go dick face.

 

[Colin]

Yes, indeed.

A nation which is economically in bad shape is STILL paying for parasitic monarchy. Unbelievable.

Hilarious how the op is now doing everything he can to divert away from the original post about Olympic tickets!

Not really. We were discussing the root of the problem. I guess it's just hard for you to follow intricate subject matter.

Let me put in terms you can understand:

Government no good. Government not care about people only themselves. Government not no work right and people get no tickets. This no better than when King.

There you go dick face.

I love it when someone resorts to namecalling as the last resort of trying to convince themselves they are right! It proves they have nothing intelligent to bring to the table.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Hilarious how the op is now doing everything he can to divert away from the original post about Olympic tickets!

Not really. We were discussing the root of the problem. I guess it's just hard for you to follow intricate subject matter.

Let me put in terms you can understand:

Government no good. Government not care about people only themselves. Government not no work right and people get no tickets. This no better than when King.

There you go dick face.

I love it when someone resorts to namecalling as the last resort of trying to convince themselves they are right! It proves they have nothing intelligent to bring to the table.

You focus on the name calling cos you know you otherwise were called out proper for your BS. This is why I went no holds bar on calling you a dick face. Cos you are one. It's not "resorting."

 

[Colin]

Not really. We were discussing the root of the problem. I guess it's just hard for you to follow intricate subject matter.

Let me put in terms you can understand:

Government no good. Government not care about people only themselves. Government not no work right and people get no tickets. This no better than when King.

There you go dick face.

I love it when someone resorts to namecalling as the last resort of trying to convince themselves they are right! It proves they have nothing intelligent to bring to the table.

You focus on the name calling cos you know you otherwise were called out proper for your BS. This is why I went no holds bar on calling you a dick face. Cos you are one. It's not "resorting."

Facts are bullshit! I love it! Do carry on. I'm killing myself laughing at your obvious ignorance.

 

[California Girl]

Not really. We were discussing the root of the problem. I guess it's just hard for you to follow intricate subject matter.

Let me put in terms you can understand:

Government no good. Government not care about people only themselves. Government not no work right and people get no tickets. This no better than when King.

There you go dick face.

I love it when someone resorts to namecalling as the last resort of trying to convince themselves they are right! It proves they have nothing intelligent to bring to the table.

You focus on the name calling cos you know you otherwise were called out proper for your BS. This is why I went no holds bar on calling you a dick face. Cos you are one. It's not "resorting."

This is the second time today I've had to call a conservative a prat. Do me a favor and stop talking out of your ass. The London Olympics are doing ok... at least they're not busing thousands of spectators like the Chinese did. They've had some problems, but nothing that wasn't fixed quite quickly. Calm down before you make a total fool of yourself.

 

[Toro]

Firstly , I would like to congratulate the athletes who are in peak condition and push the boundaries of human performance. Specially those who participate in my favorite sport womens beach volleyball.

There's only one way to buy London Olympic tickets-- through the 'official' office that's controlled by the government. They've even solidified their monopoly by making it a CRIMINAL OFFENSE for individuals to resell Olympic tickets.

The government's central planning of Olympic ticketing has been a complete failure, perhaps best evidenced by the THOUSANDS of empty seats at many of the events.

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I would sure like to read this article, but since I have to join a site, I can't.

Much, if not most, of the empty seats have nothing to do with who is selling tickets. The reason why many of the seats are empty is because the tickets were given away to corporate sponsors. A company like Coke will receive an allotment of tickets that will be given away to employees and customers who then travel to London and do what any tourist does - sight-see, travel, etc. The Olympics are one of several reasons why these people go to England, but it isn't the only reason. So, sometimes the tickets aren't used as the ticket holder is doing other touristy things at the time of the event. Individuals who buy the tickets are much more likely to attend the sporting event than those who are given the ticket.