Logic Destroys Obama's Roanoke Declaration

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    I believe that this would be an appropriate place to introduce a little exercise in logic....

    1. In his Roanoke Moment, President Obama said the following:
    "If you’ve got a business. you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...nt-build-that/

    2. I believe that all will agree that the import, the meaning of the statement is that every successful business owes that
    success to everyone else in America, without whom there would not have been the infrastructure, nor the milieu to allow that
    success.

    3. Therefore, we all deserve a piece of the profits of those successful businesses....via taxes.

    Did I provide the essence of the statement?
    Good.



    4. Now...watch carefully:
    "Research by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that nearly six in ten businesses shut down within the first four years of operation."
    The Top 10 Reasons Startups Fail

    Notice, we are out of the realm of conjecture here, and have entered a more factual area.
    A sixty percent failure rate....


    5. Here comes the logic that goes pretty far to defeat the essence of Obama's Roanoke Declaration:

    If all of us get to take part in the profits of the successful businesses,...

    ...then, shouldn't all of us, i.e., the government fisc, be required to pay for the losses in resources, time,
    investments, lost opportunities.....


    ....of the majority of business...the failures?




    6. So...here is Obama's next speech:

    "If you’ve got a failed business. you didn’t make that happen. Somebody else made that happen.
    So, we'll divide up all of your losses among the citizens of this great nation.

    I believe when you spread the losses...it's good for everybody."



    So...when do you think we'll hear that speech?
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    taxes help support the ability for many to operate a business.
     
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    And your post relates to the following....how?


    "Research by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that nearly six in ten businesses shut down within the first four years of operation."
    The Top 10 Reasons Startups Fail

    Notice, we are out of the realm of conjecture here, and have entered a more factual area.
    A sixty percent failure rate...."
     
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    that taxes help alot of people get to where they are going.
     
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    Here's what he said (from here):
    That may be what we all understood but the next day he announced that wasn't what he meant; he told everyone the word "that" in "you didn't build that" was not referring to the "business" but rather to the "roads and bridges". So what he now says he meant to say was--
    --which is even goofier. He'll probably change it again when he finds out that virtually all roads and bridges are build by private construction businesses.
     
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    You left off the antecedent of "that". A pronoun is almost meaningless without its antecedent.
     
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    I left off nothing....I quoted the exact sentence as he stated it...check it with the source as I provided the link.

    While the fraud in the people's house tried to walk back the quote, any sentient individual knows exactly what was said, and what was meant.


    The fact that he tried the bogus "that" and roads, etc, means that he knows exactly how disastrous the slip is to his chances for re-election.
     
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    The antecedent of "that" isn't in the same sentence. That's how you're able to quote the sentence exactly but still leave off the antecedent.


    That is what it means. Its in the sentence(s) immediately preceding the one you quoted.
     
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    The give-away is right here: "...the next day..."

    As usual, in politics, the cover-up in worse than the crime....


    I take schadenfreude picturing Michelle, when he got home.....
    ..."WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY???????"....

    Think she rolled up a newspaper and swatted him with it?
    Hillary threw lamps....


    Karma.
     
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    I've seen some of the dumb things you've posted.....but even you can't believe the defense of this dolt that you're trying to provide.....

    .....can you?

    Just tell me you can....I've got my next post ready.
     

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