Live Coverage- The Iraqi Election

[hylandrdet]

I hate to admit this, but the Iraqi election will dictate the world's view of the United States for generations to come

With that in mind, I ask of you to give me all the links, info and your expectations; everything you got, concerning this election.

 

[Annie]

I hate to admit this, but the Iraqi election will dictate the world's view of the United States for generations to come

With that in mind, I ask of you to give me all the links, info and your expectations; everything you got, concerning this election.

I will not give you ALL I know, for that would take longer than the election, but here's a start:

http://www.belgraviadispatch.com/archives/004325.html

http://www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2005_01_29.html#008976

http://www.defenddemocracy.org/research_topics/research_topics_show.htm?doc_id=257626

Now go read... :fifty:

 

[dilloduck]

I hate to admit this, but the Iraqi election will dictate the world's view of the United States for generations to come

With that in mind, I ask of you to give me all the links, info and your expectations; everything you got, concerning this election.

Wrong---the spin that the media puts on this election will be what dictates world view !

 

[Trinity]

here's a page with a lot of links


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&u=/nm/20050130/ts_nm/iraq_dc_164

 

[hylandrdet]

Wrong---the spin that the media puts on this election will be what dictates world view !

Good opinion; but the "media spin" is a double edged sword; look what it'd done for GW!

NBC news had just announced that the elections are but minutes away from starting.

Keep pouring in the info. To Kathy, I'm reading and monitoring the situation.

Good or bad, this is an historic moment; I'll try to stay awake thoughout the next 24 hours to give you as much updates as possible. The only problem I have here is that we're under a winter storm alert; that means that our powerlines could go down.

 

[Annie]

Good opinion; but the "media spin" is a double edged sword; look what it'd done for GW!

NBC news had just announced that the elections are but minutes away from starting.

Keep pouring in the info. To Kathy, I'm reading and monitoring the situation.

Good or bad, this is an historic moment; I'll try to stay awake thoughout the next 24 hours to give you as much updates as possible. The only problem I have here is that we're under a winter storm alert; that means that our powerlines could go down.

Glad you are reading, hope the links helped. A thanks would have been nice! :teeth:

 

[Avatar4321]

Good opinion; but the "media spin" is a double edged sword; look what it'd done for GW!

NBC news had just announced that the elections are but minutes away from starting.

Keep pouring in the info. To Kathy, I'm reading and monitoring the situation.

Good or bad, this is an historic moment; I'll try to stay awake thoughout the next 24 hours to give you as much updates as possible. The only problem I have here is that we're under a winter storm alert; that means that our powerlines could go down.

Dude, the election will happen whether you are awake or not. get some sleep if you have to. its not worth losing your health over something you have no control over right now.

 

[hylandrdet]

Dude, the election will happen whether you are awake or not. get some sleep if you have to. its not worth losing your health over something you have no control over right now.

I'm planning to open up a live 365 radio account in three months, so I will have to get used to the long hours anyway. As far as the 24 hours, you never served in the army did you? CQ duty is a 24 hour duty in which you monitor the activities within the barracks. I'd done it 28 times. The key is to take a series of brief naps, not one long sleep. I'll be alright, thanks for your concern.

To kathy, thank you... I think?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/29/iraq.main/index.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3771141.stm

 

[hylandrdet]

First question..

NPR is reporting that the Sunnis may not show up to vote, therefore, the Shias could take control of the Iraqi government.

Which side are you rooting for... The Shias or the Sunni? Can this be compared to the liberal/conservative clashes within our country?

Please spare me of the "we don't kill" garbage; this is a philosophical question.

 

[Annie]

I'm planning to open up a live 365 radio account in three months, so I will have to get used to the long hours anyway. As far as the 24 hours, you never served in the army did you? CQ duty is a 24 hour duty in which you monitor the activities within the barracks. I'd done it 28 times. The key is to take a series of brief naps, not one long sleep. I'll be alright, thanks for your concern.

To kathy, thank you... I think?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/29/iraq.main/index.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3771141.stm

You are welcome. BTW, I do think you noticed that 2 of the links were 'all sides' coverage. The Iraqi blogs in particular were covering live-they ran from total support; to 'wish it were true', but we're getting blown up here and have no air conditioning; to America sucks.

If only CNN and BBC would be as diverse.

 

[Comrade]

First question..

NPR is reporting that the Sunnis may not show up to vote, therefore, the Shias could take control of the Iraqi government.

Which side are you rooting for... The Shias or the Sunni? Can this be compared to the liberal/conservative clashes within our country?

Please spare me of the "we don't kill" garbage; this is a philosophical question.

It's expected that the spin on this successful election will hinge on the so called 'disenfranchised' Sunni minority.

Never mind the fact that the overall turnout for the vote will exceed that in America's own recent elections.

The Main Stream Media will have moved on today from yesterdays' news, which was supposed to be about the hundreds of civilian casualties all over Iraq as they went to the polling stations. Of course that has not materialized... so the next step in pursuing the agenda will be to illegitimize the election process and discredit the new government in Iraq.

Call me a cynic, but you know it's true.

 

[hylandrdet]

It's expected that the spin on this successful election will hinge on the so called 'disenfranchised' Sunni minority.

Never mind the fact that the overall turnout for the vote will exceed that in America's own recent elections.

The Main Stream Media will have moved on today from yesterdays' news, which was supposed to be about the hundreds of civilian casualties all over Iraq as they went to the polling stations. Of course that has not materialized... so the next step in pursuing the agenda will be to illegitimize the election process and discredit the new government in Iraq.

Call me a cynic, but you know it's true.

With two hours to go in the election, only the polls within the triangle of death had been effected by the insurgents. So far, so good

As far as maistream media coverage, I like it for one reason and one reason only; it draws natural couriosity; it makes you turn to other sources to verify the story's content. Ain't that right Kathy!

Question 2

Saddam Hussein's government actually awarded more rights to women than any other middle eastern nation...

With election results appearing to favor the "fundamentalists", will the Iraqi women be better or worse off after this election?

 

[Comrade]

With two hours to go in the election, only the polls within the triangle of death had been effected by the insurgents. So far, so good

As far as maistream media coverage, I like it for one reason and one reason only; it draws natural couriosity; it makes you turn to other sources to verify the story's content. Ain't that right Kathy!

Question 2

Saddam Hussein's government actually awarded more rights to women than any other middle eastern nation...

With election results appearing to favor the "fundamentalists", will the Iraqi women be better or worse off after this election?

I'm not sure what 'rights' women had under Saddam Hussien, at least when he or his sons were actually involved. Usually their net effect in Iraqi society was to suspend any rights of a woman to her body, family, or life.

But the right of Arab women to vote is a very first in the entire regions history.

Once you give women that power, their rights are no longer in mens hands.

Do you think any women, no matter her culture or beleifs, would forgo such power and vote for a government to strip them of it?

 

[dilloduck]

The "dancing the streets" as predicted to occur following Saddam's defeat has been instead reflected by "voting in the booths" in democratic fashion. Isn't the latter a far greater result than we could have possibly hoped for? Congratulations to the Iraqis for stepping up to control their own future and thanks to all coalition fighters for creating a situation in which they could do so.
Damn---America has "forced it's will" on another group of poor and unsuspecting peoples. Shame on us.

 

[hylandrdet]

I'm not sure what 'rights' women had under Saddam Hussien, at least when he or his sons were actually involved. Usually their net effect in Iraqi society was to suspend any rights of a woman to her body, family, or life.

But the right of Arab women to vote is a very first in the entire regions history.

Once you give women that power, their rights are no longer in mens hands.

Do you think any women, no matter her culture or beleifs, would forgo such power and vote for a government to strip them of it?

When I was stationed in Turkey, I was given a set of rules for behaviour, in order to avoid legal trouble. The most significant, premarital sex; if you get caught, you'll either are going to marry her, or you're going to marry "him", that meaning a 15 year "midnight express" trip.

To sum it up, there's no such thing as a "true" democracy in a muslim nation, because there is no separation of "church and state"; or in this case, the separation of Mosque and State. Regardless of the results in Iraq, the Iraqi women will still find themselves living in Iraq under Islamic laws, which is basically "bare feet and pregnant, cooking food in the kitchen" leglislation.

http://washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20040321-101407-1807r

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/05/24/MN135276.DTL

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0613/p01s04-woiq.html

Next a 2-part question...

Is it a good idea to have Iraq's "political" parties, in this new "democracy", be defined by culture and ethnicity!

Could you imagine how our democracy would work if we had a white party, black party, latino party, jewish party, etc?

 

[Bullypulpit]

I am truly delighted that the incidents of violence and its victims were as few as there were. Their names should be enshrined as the heroes they were. But the true test of this pudding lies in the aftermath of the vote.

If the reported 72% voter turnout is accurate, we in America should be ashamed. Only about 60% of eligible voters turned out for the 2004 election. We value our freedoms too lightly and disregard the responsibilities they entail almost entirely.

 

[hylandrdet]

I am truly delighted that the incidents of violence and its victims were as few as there were. Their names should be enshrined as the heroes they were. But the true test of this pudding lies in the aftermath of the vote.

If the reported 72% voter turnout is accurate, we in America should be ashamed. Only about 60% of eligible voters turned out for the 2004 election. We value our freedoms too lightly and disregard the responsibilities they entail almost entirely.

Fair enough, can't argue with that!

 

[manu1959]

se lets count how many times the left has been wrong

us soliders will be slaughtered invaiding afganistan
won't be able to turn over soverignty
won't be able to hold elections there

us soliders will be slaughtered invaiding iraq
won't be able to turn over soverignty
won't be able to train locals
won't be able to hold elections

no the line is we will see what happens next

you all must lead miserable lives always disapointed with the outcome of everything

 

[hylandrdet]

se lets count how many times the left has been wrong

us soliders will be slaughtered invaiding afganistan
won't be able to turn over soverignty
won't be able to hold elections there

us soliders will be slaughtered invaiding iraq
won't be able to turn over soverignty
won't be able to train locals
won't be able to hold elections

no the line is we will see what happens next

you all must lead miserable lives always disapointed with the outcome of everything

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/grasovpreface.html
http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id337.htm
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6700

Our problems with Iraq and Afghanistan started well before Sept 11 and will continue well after it.

 

[manu1959]

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/grasovpreface.html
http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id337.htm
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6700

Our problems with Iraq and Afghanistan started well before Sept 11 and will continue well after it.

what is your point sad little man? can't even be happy for one day can you...something is always wrong in your life and it is always someone elses fault....