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    The following groups say the danger of human-caused climate change is a … FACT:

    U.S. Agency for International Development
    United States Department of Agriculture
    National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration
    National Institute of Standards and Technology
    United States Department of Defense
    United States Department of Energy
    National Institutes of Health
    United States Department of State
    United States Department of Transportation
    U.S. Geological Survey
    U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
    University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
    National Center for Atmospheric Research
    National Aeronautics & Space Administration
    National Science Foundation
    Smithsonian Institution
    International Arctic Science Committee
    Arctic Council
    African Academy of Sciences
    Australian Academy of Sciences
    Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts
    Academia Brasileira de Ciéncias
    Cameroon Academy of Sciences
    Royal Society of Canada
    Caribbean Academy of Sciences
    Chinese Academy of Sciences
    Académie des Sciences, France
    Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences
    Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina of Germany
    Indonesian Academy of Sciences
    Royal Irish Academy
    Accademia nazionale delle scienze of Italy
    Indian National Science Academy
    Science Council of Japan
    Kenya National Academy of Sciences
    Madagascar’s National Academy of Arts, Letters and Sciences
    Academy of Sciences Malaysia
    Academia Mexicana de Ciencias
    Nigerian Academy of Sciences
    Royal Society of New Zealand
    Polish Academy of Sciences
    Russian Academy of Sciences
    l’Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
    Academy of Science of South Africa
    Sudan Academy of Sciences
    Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
    Tanzania Academy of Sciences
    Turkish Academy of Sciences
    Uganda National Academy of Sciences
    The Royal Society of the United Kingdom
    National Academy of Sciences, United States
    Zambia Academy of Sciences
    Zimbabwe Academy of Science
    American Academy of Pediatrics
    American Association for the Advancement of Science
    American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians
    American Astronomical Society
    American Chemical Society
    American College of Preventive Medicine
    American Geophysical Union
    American Institute of Physics
    American Medical Association
    American Meteorological Society
    American Physical Society
    American Public Health Association
    American Quaternary Association
    American Institute of Biological Sciences
    American Society of Agronomy
    American Society for Microbiology
    American Society of Plant Biologists
    American Statistical Association
    Association of Ecosystem Research Centers
    Botanical Society of America
    Crop Science Society of America
    Ecological Society of America
    Federation of American Scientists
    Geological Society of America
    National Association of Geoscience Teachers
    Natural Science Collections Alliance
    Organization of Biological Field Stations
    Society of American Foresters
    Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
    Society of Systematic Biologists
    Soil Science Society of America
    Australian Coral Reef Society
    Australian Medical Association
    Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
    Engineers Australia
    Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies
    Geological Society of Australia
    British Antarctic Survey
    Institute of Biology, UK
    Royal Meteorological Society, UK
    Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
    Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
    European Federation of Geologists
    European Geosciences Union
    European Physical Society
    European Science Foundation
    International Association for Great Lakes Research
    International Union for Quaternary Research
    International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
    Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
    World Federation of Public Health Associations
    World Health Organization
    World Meteorological Organization
    The Democratic Party of America.

    Climate Change – Have a look at the following lists. Which side are you on?
     
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    The following groups say the danger of human-caused climate change is a … FRAUD:

    American Petroleum Institute
    US Chamber of Commerce
    National Association of Manufacturers
    Competitive Enterprise Institute
    Industrial Minerals Association
    National Cattlemen’s Beef Association
    Great Northern Project Development
    Rosebud Mining
    Massey Energy
    Alpha Natural Resources
    Southeastern Legal Foundation
    Georgia Agribusiness Council
    Georgia Motor Trucking Association
    Corn Refiners Association
    National Association of Home Builders
    National Oilseed Processors Association
    National Petrochemical and Refiners Association
    Western States Petroleum Association
    The Republican Party of America

    Climate Change – Have a look at the following lists. Which side are you on?
     
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    Now there is no denying the symetry of the lists. Note the number of scientific organizations that are on the list of denial. Nada. Zip. That should be a bit indictive of the validity of the denial.
     
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    Looks to me like the owners of the Nazi Corporatocracy have been busy upgrading the propaganda machine.
    Not surprising at all.
    GBA_stan........................
     
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    Can someone post a list of scientific organizations that say that the warming is a fraud? Thank you.
     
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    [edit] Position: Accuracy of IPCC climate projections is questionable

    Individuals in this section conclude that it is not possible to project global climate accurately enough to justify the ranges projected for temperature and sea-level rise over the next century. They do not conclude specifically that the current IPCC projections are either too high or too low, but that the projections are likely to be inaccurate due to inadequacies of current global climate modeling.

    * Richard Lindzen,Pubs Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and member of the National Academy of Sciences: "We are quite confident (1) that global mean temperature is about 0.5 °C higher than it was a century ago; (2) that atmospheric levels of CO2 have risen over the past two centuries; and (3) that CO2 is a greenhouse gas whose increase is likely to warm the earth (one of many, the most important being water vapor and clouds). But – and I cannot stress this enough – we are not in a position to confidently attribute past climate change to CO2 or to forecast what the climate will be in the future."[4] "[T]here has been no question whatsoever that CO2 is an infrared absorber (i.e., a greenhouse gas – albeit a minor one), and its increase should theoretically contribute to warming. Indeed, if all else were kept equal, the increase in CO2 should have led to somewhat more warming than has been observed."[5][6]
    * Garth Paltridge,Pubs Visiting Fellow ANU and retired Chief Research Scientist, CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research and retired Director of the Institute of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre."There are good and straightforward scientific reasons to believe that the burning of fossil fuel and consequent increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide will lead to an increase in the average temperature of the world above that which would otherwise be the case. Whether the increase will be large enough to be noticeable is still an unanswered question."[7]
    * Hendrik Tennekes, retired Director of Research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute: "The blind adherence to the harebrained idea that climate models can generate 'realistic' simulations of climate is the principal reason why I remain a climate skeptic. From my background in turbulence I look forward with grim anticipation to the day that climate models will run with a horizontal resolution of less than a kilometer. The horrible predictability problems of turbulent flows then will descend on climate science with a vengeance."[8]
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    List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    Many of these scientists are sincere, with points of view that are to be checked for evidence.

    A couple, Lindzen and Singer, because of past association with tobacco and energy companies, and paid testimony for those industries, are outcasts.

    The arguement for the influence of cosmic rays has not been accepted by most scientists, and there is evidence that the affect is negligable.

    The solar influence, if it were now the primary driver, should be leading to a cooling, considering that we are in a solar minimum. That is certainly not the case.

    As for models, you will find one of the best of the modelers, Dr. James Hansen, dismissing the models as an accurate indicator of what the future holds, at the level that our present models are at. In fact, he states quite bluntly in his book, 'Storms of my Grandchildren' that the best indictor that we have for what lies ahead, is what we can read from the geological record.
     
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    and tens of thousands of scientists as well s0n.............:fu:
     
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    Indeed.............

    And were all sure it has only to do with the "science".:bye1:
     
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    Can I has money for "studies" if I worship at the altar of "Global Warming? I don't wanna' be left out.
     

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