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Fisagate biggest scandal ever
Remember that so we can come back and laugh at you later. I think I will put that in my signature line so I can remember to laugh. Hard. Multiple times.

You don't have to remember how to laugh. Just look at us since the Mueller report came out. :auiqs.jpg:

<psssst> uh.... ray ray? don't know who's been giving you that line of bullshit you are now regurgitating, but the report has not been released. only a 4 page summary by a flying monkey has.

Correct, and it hasn't been challenged by anybody, especially Mueller.

From what I heard today, Mueller and Barr are working side by side on the redactions in the report so it can be made public. It seems that Barr and Mueller have worked together before, and Barr has the highest respect for him. So don't set yourself up for too big of a disappointment like all the other times you thought your people had Trump.
 
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Fisagate biggest scandal ever
How and why?

What came from it?

Obama spied on a Presidential Campaign. No biggie

Hell that is nothing new, The Nazis did it all the time, from The Dog Catcher to The President of The Democratic Weimar Republic. The NEVER Spied on their own People Though. Weird, huh?

But what about Putin? What about Putin? Oh.....wait.

Chicago Tribune: Russia President Vladimir Putin says his government is not working with National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden, and defended President Obama over his spying program — sort of. “How do I feel about Obama after Snowden’s revelations?” Putin said during a Thursday news conference in Russia. “I envy him, because he can get away with it.”

Putin: 'I Envy' Obama's Spy Program | Breitbart
Well his word is Gold. LOL
 
This thing needs to be examined. Think about it, can we trust the FBI to handle espionage issues if they fall for forged documents concocted by foreign agents to influence a presidential election? You almost gotta laugh that the crazy angry left got away with accusing Trump of "collusion" with foreign agents while they were up to their asses in foreign based propaganda.

The Dossier has all been verified - everything but the pee tape. So everything in your post is a lie.

And we haven't seen the Mueller Report. He filed over 100 charges against 22 individuals and corporation, so your assertions that the Russians didn't hack the DNC server, or coordinate with WikiLeaks to get Trump elected, is completely false. The evidence of that was filed in the indictments.

You almost gotta laugh that the crazy, desperate, Russian-loving Trumpbots are trying to claim that Trump has been exonerated, when we haven't even seen Mueller's report yet.
You gotta laugh even harder when you liberallies figure that Trump is a Russian agent. We have been dealing with Russia forever, and in that regard you could easily try to spread falsehoods on every president or politician that speaks to the Russians, and accuse them of being Russian agents due to the mere mention of them.

How convenient it is to just grab stuff out of thin air or from any where, and then try to make something out of something, and all because we have to deal with everyone in the world at some point or another ?

Can we say set up ??? To easy these days, and it has become a tactic used in the civil war taking place in this nation now.
 
You lapped up every word of Putin’s Russian Dossier, so by your standard Putin’s Word is Gold.

And Clinton has $145 Million of his Gold.

He should be nicknamed Gold Member!
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Fisagate biggest scandal ever
How and why?

What came from it?

Obama spied on a Presidential Campaign. No biggie

Hell that is nothing new, The Nazis did it all the time, from The Dog Catcher to The President of The Democratic Weimar Republic. The NEVER Spied on their own People Though. Weird, huh?

But what about Putin? What about Putin? Oh.....wait.
Chicago Tribune: Russia President Vladimir Putin says his government is not working with National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden, and defended President Obama over his spying program — sort of. “How do I feel about Obama after Snowden’s revelations?” Putin said during a Thursday news conference in Russia. “I envy him, because he can get away with it.”

Putin: 'I Envy' Obama's Spy Program | Breitbart
Well his word is Gold. LOL
 
Fisagate biggest scandal ever
How and why?

What came from it?

Obama spied on a Presidential Campaign. No biggie

How?

That's what we'll find out.

So far, what we know is that the Obama Administration used the Hillary Steele dossier to falsely swear out the FISA warrant and spy on an American citizen who was running for President.
Actually, we don't know that. None of us is privy to this sort of information. There is a claim of falsity by the usual suspects, but nothing to back it up.
 
This thing needs to be examined. Think about it, can we trust the FBI to handle espionage issues if they fall for forged documents concocted by foreign agents to influence a presidential election? You almost gotta laugh that the crazy angry left got away with accusing Trump of "collusion" with foreign agents while they were up to their asses in foreign based propaganda.

The Dossier has all been verified - everything but the pee tape. So everything in your post is a lie.

And we haven't seen the Mueller Report. He filed over 100 charges against 22 individuals and corporation, so your assertions that the Russians didn't hack the DNC server, or coordinate with WikiLeaks to get Trump elected, is completely false. The evidence of that was filed in the indictments.

You almost gotta laugh that the crazy, desperate, Russian-loving Trumpbots are trying to claim that Trump has been exonerated, when we haven't even seen Mueller's report yet.
You gotta laugh even harder when you liberallies figure that Trump is a Russian agent. We have been dealing with Russia forever, and in that regard you could easily try to spread falsehoods on every president or politician that speaks to the Russians, and accuse them of being Russian agents due to the mere mention of them.

How convenient it is to just grab stuff out of thin air or from any where, and then try to make something out of something, and all because we have to deal with everyone in the world at some point or another ?

Can we say set up ??? To easy these days, and it has become a tactic used in the civil war taking place in this nation now.
Oooooh look! Dems are out to railroad Dear Leader Donnie & get him out of office so that Mike Pence can become the next POTUS!! The left is so enamored of Pence that they want him running this Country!

How precious is that, Trumptard?
 
Fisagate biggest scandal ever
How and why?

What came from it?

Obama spied on a Presidential Campaign. No biggie

How?

That's what we'll find out.

So far, what we know is that the Obama Administration used the Hillary Steele dossier to falsely swear out the FISA warrant and spy on an American citizen who was running for President.
LOL.......
How was Trump spied on with a warrant on Page that was approved a month after Page left the campaign and just a few weeks before the election?
 
This thing needs to be examined. Think about it, can we trust the FBI to handle espionage issues if they fall for forged documents concocted by foreign agents to influence a presidential election? You almost gotta laugh that the crazy angry left got away with accusing Trump of "collusion" with foreign agents while they were up to their asses in foreign based propaganda.

The Dossier has all been verified - everything but the pee tape. So everything in your post is a lie.

And we haven't seen the Mueller Report. He filed over 100 charges against 22 individuals and corporation, so your assertions that the Russians didn't hack the DNC server, or coordinate with WikiLeaks to get Trump elected, is completely false. The evidence of that was filed in the indictments.

You almost gotta laugh that the crazy, desperate, Russian-loving Trumpbots are trying to claim that Trump has been exonerated, when we haven't even seen Mueller's report yet.
You gotta laugh even harder when you liberallies figure that Trump is a Russian agent. We have been dealing with Russia forever, and in that regard you could easily try to spread falsehoods on every president or politician that speaks to the Russians, and accuse them of being Russian agents due to the mere mention of them.

How convenient it is to just grab stuff out of thin air or from any where, and then try to make something out of something, and all because we have to deal with everyone in the world at some point or another ?

Can we say set up ??? To easy these days, and it has become a tactic used in the civil war taking place in this nation now.
Oooooh look! Dems are out to railroad Dear Leader Donnie & get him out of office so that Mike Pence can become the next POTUS!! The left is so enamored of Pence that they want him running this Country!

How precious is that, Trumptard?

Pence may be a Republican, but he's not an outsider like Trump. That's what the Democrats hate so much. He didn't come up in the ranks, kissing ass, owing favors, helping to cover up little oops's and uh-oh's by his colleagues, or they covering up for him.

He came to the White House without the least bit of political baggage. He was never even a councilman.

Trump entered at the bottom and went right to the top. He never paid his political dues. And let's face it, many politicians wish they could get the job of President someday. So there is probably quite a lot of envy at the same time.
 
When is Graham coming out of the closet? Or is he waiting for Trump to do it for him if he stops being psycho Trumps main ball washer?

Trump uses Lindsey's sandpaper tongue to his advantage.

Most Republicans are quite impressed with his more recent stances on things. He's benefiting more than Trump.
 
This thing needs to be examined. Think about it, can we trust the FBI to handle espionage issues if they fall for forged documents concocted by foreign agents to influence a presidential election? You almost gotta laugh that the crazy angry left got away with accusing Trump of "collusion" with foreign agents while they were up to their asses in foreign based propaganda.

The Dossier has all been verified - everything but the pee tape. So everything in your post is a lie.

And we haven't seen the Mueller Report. He filed over 100 charges against 22 individuals and corporation, so your assertions that the Russians didn't hack the DNC server, or coordinate with WikiLeaks to get Trump elected, is completely false. The evidence of that was filed in the indictments.

You almost gotta laugh that the crazy, desperate, Russian-loving Trumpbots are trying to claim that Trump has been exonerated, when we haven't even seen Mueller's report yet.

Dear lady, NOTHING in the fairy tale called the dossier was verified. You need to get better news sources. I am aware that some news sources claimed that parts of the dossier were verified; but they they we.re wrong. You really need to get your news from The Drudge Report.

For your information, Steele himself admitted, under oath, that nothing in the dossier was verified. He further claimed that the documents were never intended to be presented as truthful.

“According to Steele’s courtroom version, the dossier is merely a compilation of bits of “raw intelligence” that were “unverified” and that he passed along because they “warranted further investigation” — i.e., not because he could vouch for their truthfulness. He gave them to American and British government officials, he maintains, only because they raised potential national-security threats, not because they actually established any such threats. That, he now says, was for government investigators to figure out. In sum, Steele’s defamation defense is not that what he wrote was true but that his reports “must be critically viewed in light of the purpose for and circumstances in which the information was collected.” There is laugh-out-loud stuff here: Steele’s declamation of his profound commitment to discretion and secrecy lest his “raw,” “unverified,” and possibly false reports defame anyone. He claimed that he and Fusion GPS had a solemn agreement not to disclose his work . . . except for whenever they decided to disclose his work — including to Fusion’s clients and to major press organs during the stretch run of a contentious presidential election. But not to worry: These discussions were “off the record,” a term Steele claims to have understood to mean “to be used for the purpose of further research but would not be published or attributed.”

Read more at: Steele Dossier: Obama Officials Politicized Unverified ‘Intelligence’ | National Review

Steele also admitted that most of the dossier was based upon on-line comments on what appeared to be a chat/gossip forum

“Transcripts of the closed door deposition of Christopher Steele, the former British spy, reveals he used online comments from a now-defunct CNN website as his major source to compile his infamous “Trump dossier.”

“According to the transcripts, Steele used a website called CNN iReport to back up his wild anti-Trump theories for his 2009 dossier. He now claims he “wasn’t aware” the information he found on the site was an online community forum, and that poster’s comments had not been “checked for accuracy.”

Christopher Steele ADMITS He Based His Entire Dossier on Unverified ONLINE COMMENTS

CONCLUSION: Nothing in the dossier was verified. Further, Trump has been completely exonerated. Mueller found no evidence of collusion and the Attorney General ruled Trump did not obstruct justice. When an investigation finds no evidence of a crime, that is what normal people call exoneration.

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* mueller's report has not been released & the summary was not mueller's. AND barr did not say nor quoted mueller as saying that trump was exhonerated from obstruction. quite the opposite.

THE FACTS: It was not a total vindication. Mueller’s exact words in the report, as quoted by the attorney general, say otherwise: “While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

AP FACT CHECK: Mueller probe doesn't totally exonerate Trump

Other sources reported the same thing, but in different words. Steel was sued for defamation. He did not use truth as a defense, but instead said that he never intended his dossier to be considered truthful. He instead presented it as unverified data that someone might want to investigate and verify.

"Christopher Steele, the former British spy who wrote the infamous anti-Donald Trump dossier, acknowledges that a sensational charge his sources made about a tech company CEO and Democratic Party hacking is unverified.

“In a court filing, Mr. Steele also says his accusations against the president and his aides about a supposed Russian hacking conspiracy were never supposed to be made public, much less posted in full on a website for the world to see on Jan. 10.

“He defends himself by saying he was betrayed by his client and that he followed proper internal channels by giving the dossier to Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican, to alert the U.S. government.

"Mr. Steele has not spoken publicly about his disputed opposition research project, but for the first time he is being forced to talk in a London court through his attorneys.

"Mr. Steele acknowledges that the part of the 35-page dossier that identified Mr. Gubarev as a rogue hacker came from “unsolicited intelligence” and “raw intelligence” that “needed to be analyzed and further investigated/verified.”

Christopher Steele admits dossier charge unverified

I agree that Mueller did not exonerate trump on both the collusion and obstruction charges. He did say that there was no evidence of collusion and those words constitute complete exoneration of that charge. Exoneration occurs when a jury or someone in authority determines that a person is not responsible for a particular wrong. Exoneration can even take place when there is some evidence of wrongdoing, but not enough to be meet legal standards; a preponderance of evidence in civil cases and guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in criminal cases. Mueller did not exonerate Trump in the obstruction case, but instead elected to submit the facts, pro and con, to the Attorney General for a decision. The AG ruled that there was no obstruction, thereby exonerating Trump relative to that charge.

I respect your opinion and I suppose the two of us will have to agree to disagree. You have the last word.
 
This thing needs to be examined. Think about it, can we trust the FBI to handle espionage issues if they fall for forged documents concocted by foreign agents to influence a presidential election? You almost gotta laugh that the crazy angry left got away with accusing Trump of "collusion" with foreign agents while they were up to their asses in foreign based propaganda.

The Dossier has all been verified - everything but the pee tape. So everything in your post is a lie.

And we haven't seen the Mueller Report. He filed over 100 charges against 22 individuals and corporation, so your assertions that the Russians didn't hack the DNC server, or coordinate with WikiLeaks to get Trump elected, is completely false. The evidence of that was filed in the indictments.

You almost gotta laugh that the crazy, desperate, Russian-loving Trumpbots are trying to claim that Trump has been exonerated, when we haven't even seen Mueller's report yet.

Dear lady, NOTHING in the fairy tale called the dossier was verified. You need to get better news sources. I am aware that some news sources claimed that parts of the dossier were verified; but they they we.re wrong. You really need to get your news from The Drudge Report.

For your information, Steele himself admitted, under oath, that nothing in the dossier was verified. He further claimed that the documents were never intended to be presented as truthful.

“According to Steele’s courtroom version, the dossier is merely a compilation of bits of “raw intelligence” that were “unverified” and that he passed along because they “warranted further investigation” — i.e., not because he could vouch for their truthfulness. He gave them to American and British government officials, he maintains, only because they raised potential national-security threats, not because they actually established any such threats. That, he now says, was for government investigators to figure out. In sum, Steele’s defamation defense is not that what he wrote was true but that his reports “must be critically viewed in light of the purpose for and circumstances in which the information was collected.” There is laugh-out-loud stuff here: Steele’s declamation of his profound commitment to discretion and secrecy lest his “raw,” “unverified,” and possibly false reports defame anyone. He claimed that he and Fusion GPS had a solemn agreement not to disclose his work . . . except for whenever they decided to disclose his work — including to Fusion’s clients and to major press organs during the stretch run of a contentious presidential election. But not to worry: These discussions were “off the record,” a term Steele claims to have understood to mean “to be used for the purpose of further research but would not be published or attributed.”

Read more at: Steele Dossier: Obama Officials Politicized Unverified ‘Intelligence’ | National Review

Steele also admitted that most of the dossier was based upon on-line comments on what appeared to be a chat/gossip forum

“Transcripts of the closed door deposition of Christopher Steele, the former British spy, reveals he used online comments from a now-defunct CNN website as his major source to compile his infamous “Trump dossier.”

“According to the transcripts, Steele used a website called CNN iReport to back up his wild anti-Trump theories for his 2009 dossier. He now claims he “wasn’t aware” the information he found on the site was an online community forum, and that poster’s comments had not been “checked for accuracy.”

Christopher Steele ADMITS He Based His Entire Dossier on Unverified ONLINE COMMENTS

CONCLUSION: Nothing in the dossier was verified. Further, Trump has been completely exonerated. Mueller found no evidence of collusion and the Attorney General ruled Trump did not obstruct justice. When an investigation finds no evidence of a crime, that is what normal people call exoneration.

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* mueller's report has not been released & the summary was not mueller's. AND barr did not say nor quoted mueller as saying that trump was exhonerated from obstruction. quite the opposite.

THE FACTS: It was not a total vindication. Mueller’s exact words in the report, as quoted by the attorney general, say otherwise: “While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

AP FACT CHECK: Mueller probe doesn't totally exonerate Trump

Other sources reported the same thing, but in different words. Steel was sued for defamation. He did not use truth as a defense, but instead said that he never intended his dossier to be considered truthful. He instead presented it as unverified data that someone might want to investigate and verify.

"Christopher Steele, the former British spy who wrote the infamous anti-Donald Trump dossier, acknowledges that a sensational charge his sources made about a tech company CEO and Democratic Party hacking is unverified.

“In a court filing, Mr. Steele also says his accusations against the president and his aides about a supposed Russian hacking conspiracy were never supposed to be made public, much less posted in full on a website for the world to see on Jan. 10.

“He defends himself by saying he was betrayed by his client and that he followed proper internal channels by giving the dossier to Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican, to alert the U.S. government.

"Mr. Steele has not spoken publicly about his disputed opposition research project, but for the first time he is being forced to talk in a London court through his attorneys.

"Mr. Steele acknowledges that the part of the 35-page dossier that identified Mr. Gubarev as a rogue hacker came from “unsolicited intelligence” and “raw intelligence” that “needed to be analyzed and further investigated/verified.”

Christopher Steele admits dossier charge unverified

I agree that Mueller did not exonerate trump on both the collusion and obstruction charges. He did say that there was no evidence of collusion and those words constitute complete exoneration of that charge. Exoneration occurs when a jury or someone in authority determines that a person is not responsible for a particular wrong. Exoneration can even take place when there is some evidence of wrongdoing, but not enough to be meet legal standards; a preponderance of evidence in civil cases and guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in criminal cases. Mueller did not exonerate Trump in the obstruction case, but instead elected to submit the facts, pro and con, to the Attorney General for a decision. The AG ruled that there was no obstruction, thereby exonerating Trump relative to that charge.

I respect your opinion and I suppose the two of us will have to agree to disagree. You have the last word.

The AG does NOT have the authority to charge a sitting President, so it is NOT the AG's call whether to charge. Specifically, BARR, does not have the authority, which he has said in his confirmation hearings. That authority lies with Congress, not the AG.
 
There have been reports that the FBI may have been interested in Carter Page as early as 2012. Thus, there may have more than one FISA warrant. Apparently, these warrants only last for 90 days, so they have to be re-upped.

My comment should not be taken as a factual assertion, just that this idea has been raised. I know no more about it than anyone else on USMB does.

FISA warrant protocol demands a re-visit every few months to determine if it still has merit to stay active & the feds have to demonstrate the need to keep them in force thru ongoing or new intel gathered from the last time the FISA court reviewed it.
 
This thing needs to be examined. Think about it, can we trust the FBI to handle espionage issues if they fall for forged documents concocted by foreign agents to influence a presidential election? You almost gotta laugh that the crazy angry left got away with accusing Trump of "collusion" with foreign agents while they were up to their asses in foreign based propaganda.

The Dossier has all been verified - everything but the pee tape. So everything in your post is a lie.

And we haven't seen the Mueller Report. He filed over 100 charges against 22 individuals and corporation, so your assertions that the Russians didn't hack the DNC server, or coordinate with WikiLeaks to get Trump elected, is completely false. The evidence of that was filed in the indictments.

You almost gotta laugh that the crazy, desperate, Russian-loving Trumpbots are trying to claim that Trump has been exonerated, when we haven't even seen Mueller's report yet.

Dear lady, NOTHING in the fairy tale called the dossier was verified. You need to get better news sources. I am aware that some news sources claimed that parts of the dossier were verified; but they they we.re wrong. You really need to get your news from The Drudge Report.

For your information, Steele himself admitted, under oath, that nothing in the dossier was verified. He further claimed that the documents were never intended to be presented as truthful.

“According to Steele’s courtroom version, the dossier is merely a compilation of bits of “raw intelligence” that were “unverified” and that he passed along because they “warranted further investigation” — i.e., not because he could vouch for their truthfulness. He gave them to American and British government officials, he maintains, only because they raised potential national-security threats, not because they actually established any such threats. That, he now says, was for government investigators to figure out. In sum, Steele’s defamation defense is not that what he wrote was true but that his reports “must be critically viewed in light of the purpose for and circumstances in which the information was collected.” There is laugh-out-loud stuff here: Steele’s declamation of his profound commitment to discretion and secrecy lest his “raw,” “unverified,” and possibly false reports defame anyone. He claimed that he and Fusion GPS had a solemn agreement not to disclose his work . . . except for whenever they decided to disclose his work — including to Fusion’s clients and to major press organs during the stretch run of a contentious presidential election. But not to worry: These discussions were “off the record,” a term Steele claims to have understood to mean “to be used for the purpose of further research but would not be published or attributed.”

Read more at: Steele Dossier: Obama Officials Politicized Unverified ‘Intelligence’ | National Review

Steele also admitted that most of the dossier was based upon on-line comments on what appeared to be a chat/gossip forum

“Transcripts of the closed door deposition of Christopher Steele, the former British spy, reveals he used online comments from a now-defunct CNN website as his major source to compile his infamous “Trump dossier.”

“According to the transcripts, Steele used a website called CNN iReport to back up his wild anti-Trump theories for his 2009 dossier. He now claims he “wasn’t aware” the information he found on the site was an online community forum, and that poster’s comments had not been “checked for accuracy.”

Christopher Steele ADMITS He Based His Entire Dossier on Unverified ONLINE COMMENTS

CONCLUSION: Nothing in the dossier was verified. Further, Trump has been completely exonerated. Mueller found no evidence of collusion and the Attorney General ruled Trump did not obstruct justice. When an investigation finds no evidence of a crime, that is what normal people call exoneration.

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* mueller's report has not been released & the summary was not mueller's. AND barr did not say nor quoted mueller as saying that trump was exhonerated from obstruction. quite the opposite.

THE FACTS: It was not a total vindication. Mueller’s exact words in the report, as quoted by the attorney general, say otherwise: “While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

AP FACT CHECK: Mueller probe doesn't totally exonerate Trump

Other sources reported the same thing, but in different words. Steel was sued for defamation. He did not use truth as a defense, but instead said that he never intended his dossier to be considered truthful. He instead presented it as unverified data that someone might want to investigate and verify.

"Christopher Steele, the former British spy who wrote the infamous anti-Donald Trump dossier, acknowledges that a sensational charge his sources made about a tech company CEO and Democratic Party hacking is unverified.

“In a court filing, Mr. Steele also says his accusations against the president and his aides about a supposed Russian hacking conspiracy were never supposed to be made public, much less posted in full on a website for the world to see on Jan. 10.

“He defends himself by saying he was betrayed by his client and that he followed proper internal channels by giving the dossier to Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican, to alert the U.S. government.

"Mr. Steele has not spoken publicly about his disputed opposition research project, but for the first time he is being forced to talk in a London court through his attorneys.

"Mr. Steele acknowledges that the part of the 35-page dossier that identified Mr. Gubarev as a rogue hacker came from “unsolicited intelligence” and “raw intelligence” that “needed to be analyzed and further investigated/verified.”

Christopher Steele admits dossier charge unverified

I agree that Mueller did not exonerate trump on both the collusion and obstruction charges. He did say that there was no evidence of collusion and those words constitute complete exoneration of that charge. Exoneration occurs when a jury or someone in authority determines that a person is not responsible for a particular wrong. Exoneration can even take place when there is some evidence of wrongdoing, but not enough to be meet legal standards; a preponderance of evidence in civil cases and guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in criminal cases. Mueller did not exonerate Trump in the obstruction case, but instead elected to submit the facts, pro and con, to the Attorney General for a decision. The AG ruled that there was no obstruction, thereby exonerating Trump relative to that charge.

I respect your opinion and I suppose the two of us will have to agree to disagree. You have the last word.

that article is 2 years old. but besides that, all i can say is nixon didn't break into watergate himself, but obstruction was certainly one of the 3 articles of impeachment he was facing.
 

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