Limbaugh's fault.

[Old Rocks]

When I think of America, I think of freedom and liberty. I think of America as a grand experiment of noble ideas, where all people are created equal, where people are not persecuted for their beliefs, where people can make themselves into anything they want, where anything is possible. America is not defined by blood. It is not defined by religion. It is not defined by class. Ideally, blood, religion and class are irrelevant. In America, your fate is not pre-ordained at birth, as it is in many countries. In America, anyone can become President. In America, anyone can become rich. In America, anyone can rise to any status in life.

In America, thought is not a crime. You are not defined by how you think. Defining people by how they think is a throwback to the 17th century at best, and in league with tyrants and dictators at worst.

America is an inspiration to many around the world. It was the Statue of Liberty they raised in Tiananmen Square when the Chinese were protesting for more freedom.

America is not perfect. America has not always lived up to the ideals for which it stands. But you ask me what America stands for? America stands for freedom and liberty. The American ideals are the most noble in the world.

I have traveled extensively and have lived in two other countries. I can live anywhere I want in the world. I choose to live here. I love this country.

 

[Article 15]

When I think of America, I think of freedom and liberty. I think of America as a grand experiment of noble ideas, where all people are created equal, where people are not persecuted for their beliefs, where people can make themselves into anything they want, where anything is possible. America is not defined by blood. It is not defined by religion. It is not defined by class. Ideally, blood, religion and class are irrelevant. In America, your fate is not pre-ordained at birth, as it is in many countries. In America, anyone can become President. In America, anyone can become rich. In America, anyone can rise to any status in life.

In America, thought is not a crime. You are not defined by how you think. Defining people by how they think is a throwback to the 17th century at best, and in league with tyrants and dictators at worst.

America is an inspiration to many around the world. It was the Statue of Liberty they raised in Tiananmen Square when the Chinese were protesting for more freedom.

America is not perfect. America has not always lived up to the ideals for which it stands. But you ask me what America stands for? America stands for freedom and liberty. The American ideals are the most noble in the world.

I have traveled extensively and have lived in two other countries. I can live anywhere I want in the world. I choose to live here. I love this country.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

It's odd that you seemed to be indicating that my position regarding Americans is incorrect, YET you completely avoided defining American as you understand it...

Now my thinking on this is that you needed to maintain as vague a profile on this as possible, because if you WERE TO DEFINE it... you'd have to define it to such a minimal degree that the concept "American" would be rendered roughly MEANINGLESS... You'd probably try to claim that being an American is a simple function of being born in the US... or perhaps you'd take the very common path amongst leftists and claim that to be an American all one needs to be is born in the AMERICAS... somewhere on the American continent.

But don't let me put words in your mouth sis... I hereby invite you to define "American" and to do so in such a way that it squares with your other positions which stand as antithetical to the principles on which America was founded.

(WARNING: HOLDING ONE'S BREATH WHILE WAITING ON A LEFTIST TO SUPPORT THEIR DRIVEL WILL RESULT IN ONE'S CERTAIN DEATH!)

When I think of America, I think of freedom and liberty. I think of America as a grand experiment of noble ideas, where all people are created equal, where people are not persecuted for their beliefs, where people can make themselves into anything they want, where anything is possible. America is not defined by blood. It is not defined by religion. It is not defined by class. Ideally, blood, religion and class are irrelevant. In America, your fate is not pre-ordained at birth, as it is in many countries. In America, anyone can become President. In America, anyone can become rich. In America, anyone can rise to any status in life.

In America, thought is not a crime. You are not defined by how you think. Defining people by how they think is a throwback to the 17th century at best, and in league with tyrants and dictators at worst.

America is an inspiration to many around the world. It was the Statue of Liberty they raised in Tiananmen Square when the Chinese were protesting for more freedom.

America is not perfect. America has not always lived up to the ideals for which it stands. But you ask me what America stands for? America stands for freedom and liberty. The American ideals are the most noble in the world.

I have traveled extensively and have lived in two other countries. I can live anywhere I want in the world. I choose to live here. I love this country.

OH that was beautiful... man.

Your right on target and your idea of what America is truly bespeaks its essence...

Of course, it doesn't square with your advocacy of Socialism... I loved how ya pointed out that when the Chinese students were protesting for freedom, of which the Marxist Chinese government was infringing, as a necessary function of their Marxist ideology... the students raised an analogical symbol of Individual Liberty through the use of the American Statue of Liberty... and you did it without even mentioning that you advocated and voted for a MARXIST for President of the US, whose policy initiatives are not at all distinct from those that drove that tank over those students just a few short hours after that picture was taken.

Ya see, while you redundantly 'think of freedom and liberty' as that on which America stands, YOU ADVOCATE FOR TYRANNY AND OPPRESSION. You believe that the government has rights... and that part of those rights is to CONFISCATE THE PRDUCT OF THE INDIVIDUALS LABOR, IN ORDER TO SUBSIDIZE THOSE WHO HAD NO HAND IN EARNING IT. That is an opinion which stands in DIRECT OPPOSITION TO INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY... which FTR: IS FREEDOM.

While you CLAIM to recognize that in America "thought is not a crime. You are not defined by how you think." You advocate for those who have passed laws WHICH PROSECUTE PEOPLE FOR THEIR THOUGHTS... and I am in AWE of how you did so as if you've NEVER HEARD OF LEFTIST LEGISLATION WHICH CRIMINALIZED THOUGHT... OKA: HATE CRIMES.

In short you proclaim that you believe in the principles on which AMERICA IS FOUNDED: BUT YOU OPENLY ADVOCATE FOR THOSE WHO STAND DIAMETRICALL OPPOSSED TO THOSE PRINCIPLES...

Now friends... as I said, the left cannot square their positions to the concepts that are AMERICA.

They trot out "FREEDOM AND LIBERTY" but they can't assign PROGRESSIVE TAXATION, CONFISCATORY ANTI-BUSINESS REGULATION, ANTI-CAPITALIST ECONOMIC POLICY, RIGHT INFRINGING ENVIRO-POLICY, MARXIST SOCIAL ENTITLEMENTS THAT FORCEFULLY CONFISCATE ONE MAN'S EARNINGS SO ANOTHER MAN THAT DIDN'T EARN IT CAN LIVE OFF OF IT... to INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY... or that which is known as 'freedom.'

HOW IN THE HELL DOES RESTRICTING THE INDIVIDUAL'S MEANS TO ADEQUATELY DEFEND THEMSELVES AND THEIR PROPERTY THROUGH THE USE OF A FIREARM SQUARE WITH "INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND FREEDOM?"

HOW DO LEFTIST SUPREME COURT DECISIONS THAT GIVES GOVERNEMNT THE RIGHT TO TAKES THE HOMES OF INDIVIDUALS, ON THE GROUNDS THAT DOING SO IMPROVES THE LOT OF THE COLLECTIVE BY INCREASING THE 'TAX BASE'… HOW DOES THAT SQUARE WITH INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY?

HOW DOES MANDATING THAT CERTAIN SPEECH NEEDS TO BE COUNTERED BY SPEECH WHICH ADVOCATES FOR THE POLICIES OF THE GOVERNMENT THAT MANDATED THAT INFRINGEMENT ON INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, SQUARE WITH INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY?

HOW DOES ARBITRAILY DECIDING THAT ONE PERSON HAS A RIGHT TO TAKE THE LIFE OF A HUMAN BEING THAT THEY WERE 100% RESPONSIBLE FOR CONCEIVING SQUARE WITH INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM? It's pretty damn tough to be free when they first power that you come into contact with open's her legs and lets a DOCTOR TEAR YOU APART, RIPPING LIMB FROM FREAKIN' LIMB and pouring your tiny remains into the SEWER so no one has to look at what they’ve done to AN INDIVIDUAL HUMAN BEING THAT HAD EVERY BIT AS MUCH A RIGHT TO THEIR LIFE AS THE MOTHER AND THE DOCTOR THAT MURDERED IT BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT INDIVIDUAL LIFE WAS AN INCONVENIENCE!

Now we can be sure, that without fail our leftist opposition will return to deny that they support ANY or most of those leftist policies... YET they spend day in and out in this forum ADVOCATING FOR THOSE THAT DO, THAT THOSE THAT DO SHOULD BE GIVEN THE POWER NECESSARY TO IMPART THAT TYRANNY UPON THE INDIVIDUAL; INFRINGING UPON THEIR INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY... USURPING THEIR FREEDOM.

This is classic and while they did their level BEST to avoid posting it... inevitably THEY HAD TO PLAY THE "FREEDOM" Card... this due to my having left them no alternative… I had already established that for Leftists to be American and square their anti-individual liberty with that which America stands for, they have to define America down to a concept which is just marginally above that of meaningless… I had left them no choice and I did so to force them to contrast their STATED IDEAS, THEIR ADVOCACIES FOR PLACING SOCIALISTS IN HIGH OFFICE, against that which they would have to bring to discredit the notion that they are not Americans.

The fact is: THERE ARE NO LEFTIST AMERICANS! As such is an ideological impossibility. Left-think in ALL OF ITS 'isms' stands wholly ANTITHETICAL TO the concept “AMERICAN;” Left-think is the very OPPOSITE OF INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY... LEFT-THINK DESTROYS INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY WHERE IT IS GIVEN THE POWER TO DO SO and there are no potential exceptions as given that of which left-think is comprised IT CANNOT EXIST WHERE INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY EXISTS… because INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY IS SAID TO BE AT ODDS WITH THE FREEDOM OF THE COLLECTIVE... Individual libertarians are said to be SELFISH, GREEDY and OUT FOR THEMSELVES… over what? The best interests of who?; “OTHERS…;” The INDIVIDUAL WHO DEFENDS THEIR PERSONAL RIGHTS IS ALWAYS SAID TO BE AT ODDS WITH ‘…the needs of the community.’

Finally, this notion that people are not judged by their ideas... BULLSHIT! Ideas are ALL THAT AN INDIDIVUAL IS! The ideas a person ESPOUSES ARE WHAT AND WHO THEY ARE! As their ideas ARE that which molds their actions...

This member “Toro” doesn't believe that crap she trotted out. She brings it in order to project the erroneous impression that judging her ideas discredits her opposition.... EVEN AS SHE JUDGES THE IDEAS OF THAT OPPOSITION! Of course, let's consider for a moment that SHE DOES BELIEVE IT... and despite that she advocates for that which stands diametrically oppossed TO IT! Is that the action of a RATIONAL, LUCID HUMAN BEING? Of course not... so she is either an imbecile or she's a LIAR! She clearly has the cognitive means to type; she can string a coherent sentence together... so that would seem to rule out 'imbecile'... now wouldn't it?

Thus friends, this leftist and the whole of the ideological left are the pure embodiment of deceit... they are pure evil. The ideological left ALWAYS COMES proclaiming itself as the oracle of liberty and freedom, EVEN AS IT GOES ABOUT DESTROYING THAT WHICH PROMOTES INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, WHICH IS THE ONLY POTENTIAL SOURCE OF FREEDOM.

 

[Toro]

and you did it without even mentioning that you advocated and voted for a MARXIST for President of the US

This is where this conversation ends.

You wouldn't know Marxism if it came up and bit you on the ass.

Obama a Marxist. Hilarious.

Oh, and as for all those points you mentioned that were antithetical to what it means to being an American, I was going to write about wire-tapping, holding people without trial, and all the Orwellian actions by the Republicans over the past eight years. And let's not forget those uses of government power conservatives have no problems imposing on the free actions of individuals, such as banning the use of narcotics and homosexual marriage. Hmm, I guess when you define being an American through the restrictions of individual liberty through the implementation of government laws, I guess conservatives aren't real Americans either!

The fact is: THERE ARE NO LEFTIST AMERICANS!

Do you realize how embarrassing you conservatards are to more rational conservatives who aren't extremists?

Since pretty much everyone else is to the left of you guys out on the fringe, how many "real" Americans are there? 8,000?

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

This is where this conversation ends.

Your concession is noted and accepted...

 

[AllieBaba]

Rushes audience is shrinking because he's been lying to people for years and the evidence of his Neo-Republican has manifested recently so obviously that even the dumbest of the dumb realized what total bullshit he's been selling.

Er..link?

 

[AllieBaba]

This is where this conversation ends.

You wouldn't know Marxism if it came up and bit you on the ass.

Obama a Marxist. Hilarious.

Oh, and as for all those points you mentioned that were antithetical to what it means to being an American, I was going to write about wire-tapping, holding people without trial, and all the Orwellian actions by the Republicans over the past eight years. And let's not forget those uses of government power conservatives have no problems imposing on the free actions of individuals, such as banning the use of narcotics and homosexual marriage. Hmm, I guess when you define being an American through the restrictions of individual liberty through the implementation of government laws, I guess conservatives aren't real Americans either!



Do you realize how embarrassing you conservatards are to more rational conservatives who aren't extremists?

Since pretty much everyone else is to the left of you guys out on the fringe, how many "real" Americans are there? 8,000?

YOu know, all libtards, from Maher on down (though the thought of going down from Maher is laughable) have one thing in common:

Instead of arguing, you insult the intelligence of your opponent.

When did that become the cornerstone of debate?

 

[Shogun]

DING DING DING DING!


We haaaave a winer! Toro knocks out PubliusInfinitu 35 seconds into the first round!

 

[Shogun]

YOu know, all libtards, from Maher on down (though the thought of going down from Maher is laughable) have one thing in common:

Instead of arguing, you insult the intelligence of your opponent.

When did that become the cornerstone of debate?

are you really trying to be serious here? Nice generalization for one. For two, it's hilarious to see you claim that only liberals talk shit. Third, you could probably answer your own questions since your first few sentences, ironically, make your last sentence a giant pot of comedy gold.

 

[Toro]

YOu know, all libtards, from Maher on down (though the thought of going down from Maher is laughable) have one thing in common:

Instead of arguing, you insult the intelligence of your opponent.

When did that become the cornerstone of debate?

When you guys made Rush Limbaugh a media star...

 

[AllieBaba]

are you really trying to be serious here? Nice generalization for one. For two, it's hilarious to see you claim that only liberals talk shit. Third, you could probably answer your own questions since your first few sentences, ironically, make your last sentence a giant pot of comedy gold.

Actually, I was pretty specific.
I get sick of every argument beginning or ending with some lisping liberal with the common sense of a goat stating how stupid all conservatives are, and how intelligent all liberals are.

It's not only elitist and untrue, it's impossible to speak to.

 

[Shogun]

Actually, I was pretty specific.
I get sick of every argument beginning or ending with some lisping liberal with the common sense of a goat stating how stupid all conservatives are, and how intelligent all liberals are.

It's not only elitist and untrue, it's impossible to speak to.

oh hey, way to keep driving home the joke of your Instead of arguing, you insult the intelligence of your opponent. punchline!


Trust me, baba.. it's shit like this that validates the claim that liberals are smarter than you.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

It's odd that you seemed to be indicating that my position regarding Americans is incorrect, YET you completely avoided defining American as you understand it...

Now my thinking on this is that you needed to maintain as vague a profile on this as possible, because if you WERE TO DEFINE it... you'd have to define it to such a minimal degree that the concept "American" would be rendered roughly MEANINGLESS... You'd probably try to claim that being an American is a simple function of being born in the US... or perhaps you'd take the very common path amongst leftists and claim that to be an American all one needs to be is born in the AMERICAS... somewhere on the American continent.

But don't let me put words in your mouth sis... I hereby invite you to define "American" and to do so in such a way that it squares with your other positions which stand as antithetical to the principles on which America was founded.

(WARNING: HOLDING ONE'S BREATH WHILE WAITING ON A LEFTIST TO SUPPORT THEIR DRIVEL WILL RESULT IN ONE'S CERTAIN DEATH!)

When I think of America, I think of freedom and liberty. I think of America as a grand experiment of noble ideas, where all people are created equal, where people are not persecuted for their beliefs, where people can make themselves into anything they want, where anything is possible. America is not defined by blood. It is not defined by religion. It is not defined by class. Ideally, blood, religion and class are irrelevant. In America, your fate is not pre-ordained at birth, as it is in many countries. In America, anyone can become President. In America, anyone can become rich. In America, anyone can rise to any status in life.

In America, thought is not a crime. You are not defined by how you think. Defining people by how they think is a throwback to the 17th century at best, and in league with tyrants and dictators at worst.

America is an inspiration to many around the world. It was the Statue of Liberty they raised in Tiananmen Square when the Chinese were protesting for more freedom.

America is not perfect. America has not always lived up to the ideals for which it stands. But you ask me what America stands for? America stands for freedom and liberty. The American ideals are the most noble in the world.

I have traveled extensively and have lived in two other countries. I can live anywhere I want in the world. I choose to live here. I love this country.

OH man, that was beautiful...

Your right on target and your idea of what America is truly bespeaks its essence...

Of course, it doesn't square with your advocacy of Socialism... I loved how ya pointed out that when the Chinese students were protesting for freedom, of which the Marxist Chinese government was infringing, as a necessary function of their Marxist ideology... the students raised an analogical symbol of Individual Liberty through the use of the American Statue of Liberty... and you did it without even mentioning that you advocated and voted for a MARXIST for President of the US, whose policy initiatives are not at all distinct from those that drove that tank over those students just a few short hours after that picture was taken.

Ya see, while you redundantly 'think of freedom and liberty' as that on which America stands, YOU ADVOCATE FOR TYRANNY AND OPPRESSION. You believe that the government has rights... and that part of those rights is to CONFISCATE THE PRDUCT OF THE INDIVIDUALS LABOR, IN ORDER TO SUBSIDIZE THOSE WHO HAD NO HAND IN EARNING IT. That is an opinion which stands in DIRECT OPPOSITION TO INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY... which FTR: IS FREEDOM.

While you CLAIM to recognize that in America "thought is not a crime. You are not defined by how you think." You advocate for those who have passed laws WHICH PROSECUTE PEOPLE FOR THEIR THOUGHTS... and I am in AWE of how you did so as if you've NEVER HEARD OF LEFTIST LEGISLATION WHICH CRIMINALIZED THOUGHT... OKA: HATE CRIMES.

In short you proclaim that you believe in the principles on which AMERICA IS FOUNDED: BUT YOU OPENLY ADVOCATE FOR THOSE WHO STAND DIAMETRICALL OPPOSSED TO THOSE PRINCIPLES...

Now friends... as I said, the left cannot square their positions to the concepts that are AMERICA.

They trot out "FREEDOM AND LIBERTY" but they can't assign PROGRESSIVE TAXATION, CONFISCATORY ANTI-BUSINESS REGULATION, ANTI-CAPITALIST ECONOMIC POLICY, RIGHT INFRINGING ENVIRO-POLICY, MARXIST SOCIAL ENTITLEMENTS THAT FORCEFULLY CONFISCATE ONE MAN'S EARNINGS SO ANOTHER MAN THAT DIDN'T EARN IT CAN LIVE OFF OF IT... to INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY... or that which is known as 'freedom.'

HOW IN THE HELL DOES RESTRICTING THE INDIVIDUAL'S MEANS TO ADEQUATELY DEFEND THEMSELVES AND THEIR PROPERTY THROUGH THE USE OF A FIREARM SQUARE WITH "INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND FREEDOM?"

HOW DO LEFTIST SUPREME COURT DECISIONS THAT GIVES GOVERNEMNT THE RIGHT TO TAKES THE HOMES OF INDIVIDUALS, ON THE GROUNDS THAT DOING SO IMPROVES THE LOT OF THE COLLECTIVE BY INCREASING THE 'TAX BASE'… HOW DOES THAT SQUARE WITH INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY?

HOW DOES MANDATING THAT CERTAIN SPEECH NEEDS TO BE COUNTERED BY SPEECH WHICH ADVOCATES FOR THE POLICIES OF THE GOVERNMENT THAT MANDATED THAT INFRINGEMENT ON INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, SQUARE WITH INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY?

HOW DOES ARBITRAILY DECIDING THAT ONE PERSON HAS A RIGHT TO TAKE THE LIFE OF A HUMAN BEING THAT THEY WERE 100% RESPONSIBLE FOR CONCEIVING SQUARE WITH INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM? It's pretty damn tough to be free when they first power that you come into contact with open's her legs and lets a DOCTOR TEAR YOU APART, RIPPING LIMB FROM FREAKIN' LIMB and pouring your tiny remains into the SEWER so no one has to look at what they’ve done to AN INDIVIDUAL HUMAN BEING THAT HAD EVERY BIT AS MUCH A RIGHT TO THEIR LIFE AS THE MOTHER AND THE DOCTOR THAT MURDERED IT BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT INDIVIDUAL LIFE WAS AN INCONVENIENCE!

Now we can be sure, that without fail our leftist opposition will return to deny that they support ANY or most of those leftist policies... YET they spend day in and out in this forum ADVOCATING FOR THOSE THAT DO, THAT THOSE THAT DO SHOULD BE GIVEN THE POWER NECESSARY TO IMPART THAT TYRANNY UPON THE INDIVIDUAL; INFRINGING UPON THEIR INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY... USURPING THEIR FREEDOM.

This is classic and while they did their level BEST to avoid posting it... inevitably THEY HAD TO PLAY THE "FREEDOM" Card... this due to my having left them no alternative… I had already established that for Leftists to be American and square their anti-individual liberty with that which America stands for, they have to define America down to a concept which is just marginally above that of meaningless… I had left them no choice and I did so to force them to contrast their STATED IDEAS, THEIR ADVOCACIES FOR PLACING SOCIALISTS IN HIGH OFFICE, against that which they would have to bring to discredit the notion that they are not Americans.

The fact is: THERE ARE NO LEFTIST AMERICANS! As such is an ideological impossibility. Left-think in ALL OF ITS 'isms' stands wholly ANTITHETICAL TO the concept “AMERICAN;” Left-think is the very OPPOSITE OF INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY... LEFT-THINK DESTROYS INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY WHERE IT IS GIVEN THE POWER TO DO SO and there are no potential exceptions as given that of which left-think is comprised IT CANNOT EXIST WHERE INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY EXISTS… because INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY IS SAID TO BE AT ODDS WITH THE FREEDOM OF THE COLLECTIVE... Individual libertarians are said to be SELFISH, GREEDY and OUT FOR THEMSELVES… over what? The best interests of who?; “OTHERS…;” The INDIVIDUAL WHO DEFENDS THEIR PERSONAL RIGHTS IS ALWAYS SAID TO BE AT ODDS WITH ‘…the needs of the community.’

Finally, this notion that people are not judged by their ideas... BULLSHIT! Ideas are ALL THAT AN INDIDIVUAL IS! The ideas a person ESPOUSES ARE WHAT AND WHO THEY ARE! As their ideas ARE that which molds their actions...

This member “Toro” doesn't believe that crap she trotted out. She brings it in order to project the erroneous impression that judging her ideas discredits her opposition.... EVEN AS SHE JUDGES THE IDEAS OF THAT OPPOSITION! Of course, let's consider for a moment that SHE DOES BELIEVE IT... and despite that she advocates for that which stands diametrically oppossed TO IT! Is that the action of a RATIONAL, LUCID HUMAN BEING? Of course not... so she is either an imbecile or she's a LIAR! She clearly has the cognitive means to type; she can string a coherent sentence together... so that would seem to rule out 'imbecile'... now wouldn't it?

Thus friends, this leftist and the whole of the ideological left are the pure embodiment of deceit... they are pure evil. The ideological left ALWAYS COMES proclaiming itself as the oracle of liberty and freedom, EVEN AS IT GOES ABOUT DESTROYING THAT WHICH PROMOTES INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, WHICH IS THE ONLY POTENTIAL SOURCE OF FREEDOM.

This is where this conversation ends.

Your concession is noted and accepted...

[/quote]
Below is yet another example, brought to us by our in-house pedophile, which goes towards establishing that homosexuality and the correlating deficiency of pedophilia of which this member suffers, are in fact a function of an overriding cognitive deficiency, which may well be the basis of the severe character flaw which each otherwise represent...

DING DING DING DING!


We haaaave a winer! Toro knocks out PubliusInfinitu 35 seconds into the first round!

 

[AllieBaba]

oh hey, way to keep driving home the joke of your Instead of arguing, you insult the intelligence of your opponent. punchline!


Trust me, baba.. it's shit like this that validates the claim that liberals are smarter than you.

And again.

 

[Shogun]

This is where this conversation ends.

You wouldn't know Marxism if it came up and bit you on the ass.

Obama a Marxist. Hilarious.

Do you realize how embarrassing you conservatards are to more rational conservatives who aren't extremists?

Since pretty much everyone else is to the left of you guys out on the fringe, how many "real" Americans are there? 8,000?

the KNOCK OUT BLOW!

 

[Shogun]

And again.

If you can't see the irony of how you cry about the shit talking after shit talking about liberals then so be it. Maybe if I wrapped it up in some jesus you'd put more effort into catching the joke.

 

[AllieBaba]

No, I understand what you're saying. You don't see our media guys telling the world that all liberals are more stupid than all right-wingers; that they have higher i.q.s and are therefore more important, and more credence should be given to them as opposed to the majority.

And while there are one or two here who will refer to liberal stupidity, it's not the same as stating over and over ad nauseum that all liberals just aren't smart enough to understand anything.

My point is that it's THE talking point, instead of an insult generated by true discussion. They make the intelligence thing the debate, and it's ridiculous, and as I said, impossible to speak to. It's like saying "All liberals have big noses" as if that somehow validates conservative arguments.

 

[Article 15]

This is where this conversation ends.

You wouldn't know Marxism if it came up and bit you on the ass.

Obama a Marxist. Hilarious.

Oh, and as for all those points you mentioned that were antithetical to what it means to being an American, I was going to write about wire-tapping, holding people without trial, and all the Orwellian actions by the Republicans over the past eight years. And let's not forget those uses of government power conservatives have no problems imposing on the free actions of individuals, such as banning the use of narcotics and homosexual marriage. Hmm, I guess when you define being an American through the restrictions of individual liberty through the implementation of government laws, I guess conservatives aren't real Americans either!



Do you realize how embarrassing you conservatards are to more rational conservatives who aren't extremists?

Since pretty much everyone else is to the left of you guys out on the fringe, how many "real" Americans are there? 8,000?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Toro again.

 

[Shogun]

No, I understand what you're saying. You don't see our media guys telling the world that all liberals are more stupid than all right-wingers; that they have higher i.q.s and are therefore more important, and more credence should be given to them as opposed to the majority.

And while there are one or two here who will refer to liberal stupidity, it's not the same as stating over and over ad nauseum that all liberals just aren't smart enough to understand anything.

My point is that it's THE talking point, instead of an insult generated by true discussion. They make the intelligence thing the debate, and it's ridiculous, and as I said, impossible to speak to. It's like saying "All liberals have big noses" as if that somehow validates conservative arguments.

Are you fucking serious? You clearly have never listened to a free market capitalist talk about economics and you must have missed the last 8 years of Fox News.

and, before you start in trying to generalize liberals or blame them for a tactic that you yourself participate in, i'll direct you to your own input in this thread. Live by the sword, baba.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

the KNOCK OUT BLOW!

ROFL... Isn't it cool how the imbecile thinks that by vomiting an already discredited point, she will somehow rejuvenate it?

Now watch this...

Hey Cock-polisher... explain to the board just how that which you've highlighted represents a knock-out blow...

Now I'm asking you to be as specific as your intellectual limitations will allow; I'm looking for a well reasoned, intellectually sound, logically valid argument, wherein your stated supporting premise(s) follow to the summed conclusion... Meaning I want to know how a 'knock-out blow" is established through the assertion that a leftist, who operating on the delusion that they are something other than a leftist, preferring to think of themselves as... say... an American, does not accept a given position and feels that such a position is 'extreme;' particularly given that they've been repeatedly challenged to post an argument which establishes the principles on which America was founded are extreme... and they've continuously failed to do so...

Now I know that's a lot for your feeble intellect to take on... but I've dumbed it down to the absolute minimum just for you, in hopes that you can grasp it and to use it to beat you about the rhetorical head and eyes when ya fail... which is a mathematical certainty.

LOL... Enjoy kids... and let the record reflect that when this imbecile fails to post precisely what has been asked of her, I will FINALLY send this loathsome creature to the Progressive echo-chamber known as "ignore." She's little more than a spam-bot, offering absolutely nothing to any conversation beyond these rather vulgar demonstrations of progressive peter rubbing, wherein baseless addle-minded props are advanced to promote the notion of the approval of a popular majority... thus this will be my last communication with this fool UNLESS she brings her intellectual value up to that which is common to most 12 year old girls.