LIGNET: Putin Plans Military Bases in Latin American Power Play

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Latin America, long considered off-limits for Russian military outposts because of its proximity to Washington, is rapidly becoming the latest region targeted for Moscow’s expanding reach.

As the Kremlin was secretly planning its invasion of Ukraine in late February, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced Moscow’s plan to establish a permanent military presence in Latin America, including naval visits to ports in Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua.

Russia is also asking those countries to allow long-range bombers to refuel at their air bases...

LIGNET: Putin Plans Military Bases in Latin American Power Play
 
I do not see it as a likely outcome for several reasons but stranger things have happened, mainly I feel Latin America is pretty sick of the super powers and their bloody proxy wars over who gets to exploit them more.
 
obama nullified the Monroe Doctrine, so Russia is free to do anything it wants anywhere it wants.
 
obama nullified the Monroe Doctrine, so Russia is free to do anything it wants anywhere it wants.

Liar, liar, pants on fire. Russia has always had the right to use ports in Latin America and anywhere else in the world. They (USSR) used them during the cold war. Only stopped because of finances. So does every other nation in the world. Germany used ports in South America during the middle of WWII. Ships using ports have nothing to do with the Monroe Doctrine.
US Navy isn't concerned about a Vishnya Class like the CCB-175.
 
Will the Russian Navy continue to dock next to cruise ships and fishing boats?
 
The Russian navy has visited ports in our hemisphere before.

No bases are being planned.

Consider the source for this nonsense.
 
You could stand on the upper deck of a cruies ship and throw firecrackers or turds onto the Russian ship and go home from your vacation able to brag about "bombing" the Russian Navy.
 
The Russian navy has visited ports in our hemisphere before.

No bases are being planned.

Consider the source for this nonsense.

And Putin won't sign into law today his takeover of Crimea without hardly a shot being fired.... :badgrin::badgrin::eusa_clap:

Well, nobody figured it was worth a shootin' war.

Let me remind you children what history has taught us, and apparently is no longer taught in school.....From Wiki, of all sources!

The German occupation of Czechoslovakia (1938–1945) began with the Nazi annexation of Czechoslovakia's northern and western border regions, known collectively as the Sudetenland, under terms outlined by the Munich Agreement. Nazi leader Adolf Hitler's pretext for this effort was the alleged privations suffered by the ethnic German population living in those regions. New and extensive Czechoslovak border fortifications were also located in the same area.

Now child, does that sound just slightly like what has happened today in Russia? :eusa_clap:
 
And Putin won't sign into law today his takeover of Crimea without hardly a shot being fired.... :badgrin::badgrin::eusa_clap:

Well, nobody figured it was worth a shootin' war.

Let me remind you children what history has taught us, and apparently is no longer taught in school.....From Wiki, of all sources!

The German occupation of Czechoslovakia (1938–1945) began with the Nazi annexation of Czechoslovakia's northern and western border regions, known collectively as the Sudetenland, under terms outlined by the Munich Agreement. Nazi leader Adolf Hitler's pretext for this effort was the alleged privations suffered by the ethnic German population living in those regions. New and extensive Czechoslovak border fortifications were also located in the same area.

Now child, does that sound just slightly like what has happened today in Russia? :eusa_clap:

No, it only sounds slightly the same if you are ignorant about the history of Sudetenland, Checholslovakia and Germany. The history of that area didn't begin in 1938 and the Crimea wasn't folded into a made up nation created by foreigners after a World War.
 
Well, nobody figured it was worth a shootin' war.

Let me remind you children what history has taught us, and apparently is no longer taught in school.....From Wiki, of all sources!

The German occupation of Czechoslovakia (1938–1945) began with the Nazi annexation of Czechoslovakia's northern and western border regions, known collectively as the Sudetenland, under terms outlined by the Munich Agreement. Nazi leader Adolf Hitler's pretext for this effort was the alleged privations suffered by the ethnic German population living in those regions. New and extensive Czechoslovak border fortifications were also located in the same area.

Now child, does that sound just slightly like what has happened today in Russia? :eusa_clap:

No, it only sounds slightly the same if you are ignorant about the history of Sudetenland, Checholslovakia and Germany. The history of that area didn't begin in 1938 and the Crimea wasn't folded into a made up nation created by foreigners after a World War.

Putin took over Crimea because of alleged privations suffered by ethnic Russians...simple fact and his excuse!

Alarm: Putin Will Not Stop With Crimea. Paper-Tiger Obama Will Do Nothing - Forbes
 
The Russian navy has visited ports in our hemisphere before.

No bases are being planned.

Consider the source for this nonsense.


Putin’s quiet Latin America play



Away from the conflict in Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin is quietly seeking a foothold in Latin America, military officials warn.

To the alarm of lawmakers and Pentagon officials, Putin has begun sending navy ships and long-range bombers to the region for the first time in years.

Russia’s defense minister says the country is planning bases in Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua, and just last week, Putin’s national security team met to discuss increasing military ties in the region.

“They’re on the march,” Sen. Joe Donnelly (D-Ind.) said at a Senate hearing earlier this month. “They’re working the scenes where we can’t work. And they’re doing a pretty good job.”

Gen. James Kelly, commander of U.S. Southern Command said there has been a “noticeable uptick in Russian power projection and security force personnel” in Latin America.

“It has been over three decades since we last saw this type of high-profile Russian military presence,” Kelly said at the March 13 hearing.

The U.S. military says it has been forced to cut back on its engagement with military and government officials in Latin America due to budget cuts. Kelly said the U.S. military had to cancel more than 200 effective engagement activities and multi-lateral exercises in Latin America last year.

With the American presence waning, officials say rivals such as Russia, China and Iran are quickly filling the void.

Iran has opened up 11 additional embassies and 33 cultural centers in Latin America while supporting the "operational presence" of militant group Lebanese Hezbollah in the region.

“On the military side, I believe they're establishing, if you will, lily pads for future use if they needed to use them,” Kelly said.

China is making a play for Latin America a well, and is now the fastest growing investor in the region, according to experts. Although their activity is mostly economic, they are also increasing military

Putin?s quiet Latin America play | TheHill
 
The US Renounces the Monroe Doctrine?

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In a move that has oddly flown under the radar thus far, earlier this week the Obama administration renounced the Monroe Doctrine.

The announcement came in a speech Secretary of State John Kerry made to the Organization of American States (OAS) in Washington, D.C. on Monday. Kerry began the speech by noting that since President James Monroe’s famous State of the Union Address, the U.S. has “asserted our authority to step in and oppose the influence of European powers in Latin America. And throughout our nation’s history, successive presidents have reinforced that doctrine and made a similar choice.”

He continued: “Today, however, we have made a different choice. The era of the Monroe Doctrine is over…. The relationship that we seek and that we have worked hard to foster is not about a United States declaration about how and when it will intervene in the affairs of other American states. It’s about all of our countries viewing one another as equals, sharing responsibilities, cooperating on security issues, and adhering… to the decisions that we make as partners to advance the values and the interests that we share.”

If Kerry is to be believed, this represents a dramatic break in American foreign policy. Indeed, the Monroe Doctrine has formed the backbone of U.S. foreign policy both in the Western Hemisphere and abroad since it was delivered in December 1823.

In the relevant part of the speech, Monroe noted the threat posed by European powers, and stated:

“We should consider any attempt on their part to extend their system to any portion of this hemisphere as dangerous to our peace and safety. With the existing colonies or dependencies of any European power we have not interfered and shall not interfere. But with the Governments who have declared their independence and maintained it… we could not view any interposition for the purpose of oppressing them, or controlling in any other manner their destiny, by any European power in any other light than as the manifestation of an unfriendly disposition toward the United States.”


The US Renounces the Monroe Doctrine? | The Diplomat
 

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